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Gaelic games in relation to Covid.

  • 14-10-2020 5:40pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    It is clear that large gatherings in the aftermath of Gaelic matches have caused many Covid cases.

    Why were many people so desperate to have a resumption of Gaelic action? After all, we can live without Gaelic games for much longer than without restaurants and cafés and other businesses.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭ LuasSimon


    It is clear that large gatherings in the aftermath of Gaelic matches have caused many Covid cases.

    Why were many people so desperate to have a resumption of Gaelic action? After all, we can live without Gaelic games for much longer than without restaurants and cafés and other businesses.

    In many parts of the country local championships are a real big deal and are the source of huge interest and discussion plus a big deal for those that play those games , I’ve seen some great matchs online .
    The problem was the finals , players and others couldn’t control themselves such was their delight at winning .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,983 ✭✭✭ piplip87


    The GAA have taken all the precautions here yet these outbreaks happened in towns and villages not in the grounds. Publicans, Players, Management and supporters are to blame here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭✭ smck321


    Football is a big deal to some people and as the path of a virus cannot be easily directly tracked from speading at a game to the death of individuals some of those who attend do not see the correlation or at least can reason it away that is was x other group that did it, like those young people down the street having a party not us.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    piplip87 wrote: »
    The GAA have taken all the precautions here yet these outbreaks happened in towns and villages not in the grounds. Publicans, Players, Management and supporters are to blame here.

    I wasn't targeting the GAA - I was asking about the desperation of people to have Gaelic action resumed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    If intercounty players/coaches etc who are training away feel they want and feel safe in playing the championships than let them at it. They like the rest of us have to take personal responsibility

    Can't paint all the GAA community with the same brush. Yes it was bloody idiotic what happened in certain clubs/towns and serious questions need to be asked with punishments handed out

    Feel the championships will lift a bit of the doom and gloom around coming into Christmas


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,713 ✭✭✭✭ BPKS


    Lots of cases have come from Holy Communion parties.

    Should we blame the Catholic Church for this?

    Lots of cases have come from people crossing the country to go on their #staycation.

    Should we blame Failte Ireland for this?

    Lots of cases have come from students returning to third level.

    Should we blame the Higher Education Authority for this?

    Lots of cases have come from primary and secondary schools.

    Should we blame the Dept of Education for this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    In many parts of the country local championships are a real big deal and are the source of huge interest and discussion plus a big deal for those that play those games , I’ve seen some great matchs online .
    The problem was the finals , players and others couldn’t control themselves such was their delight at winning .

    I'm sure that tennis is a big deal for many Britons but their country did without Wimbledon this year. Furthermore, there were many non-sporting events that Britain had to do without this year. So why can't those Irish people who for whom local Gaelic action is a big deal make a similar sacrifice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭ limerickabroad


    I think the GAA are being scapegoated a bit here. Brought a lot of happiness to people over the summer months, and the Cul Camps had over 70,000 children actively engaged, with just one covid case. How many house parties would have occured if there was no GAA training this summer? The post county final scenes last weekend were very wrong, and the GAA pulled the plug on all games the next morning - the right call, imo. But to relentlessly attack the GAA (seems to happen here a lot) is unfair and disproportionate .


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    BPKS wrote: »
    Lots of cases have come from Holy Communion parties.

    Should we blame the Catholic Church for this?

    Lots of cases have come from people crossing the country to go on their #staycation.

    Should we blame Failte Ireland for this?

    Lots of cases have come from students returning to third level.

    Should we blame the Higher Education Authority for this?

    Lots of cases have come from primary and secondary schools.

    Should we blame the Dept of Education for this?

    Nobody says that the Church and the GAA are responsible for family gatherings. But there was no need for those people to gather after Gaelic matches. By the way, education is a necessity - unlike Gaelic games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    If intercounty players/coaches etc who are training away feel they want and feel safe in playing the championships than let them at it. They like the rest of us have to take personal responsibility

    Can't paint all the GAA community with the same brush. Yes it was bloody idiotic what happened in certain clubs/towns and serious questions need to be asked with punishments handed out

    Feel the championships will lift a bit of the doom and gloom around coming into Christmas

    I'm sure that's what those recent local matches did - and look at what they led to!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ ShyMets


    I'm sure that tennis is a big deal for many Britons but their country did without Wimbledon this year. Furthermore, there were many non-sporting events that Britain had to do without this year. So why can't those Irish people who for whom local Gaelic action is a big deal make a similar sacrifice?

    There was no Gaelic action as you refer to it during the summer in terms of Intercounty Championship. The months when it is traditionally played.

    I suspect this is just a thread for people who don't like GAA to give it a good bashing


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,713 ✭✭✭✭ BPKS


    I'm sure that tennis is a big deal for many Britons but their country did without Wimbledon this year. Furthermore, there were many non-sporting events that Britain had to do without this year. So why can't those Irish people who for whom local Gaelic action is a big deal make a similar sacrifice?

    In Britain they were desperate to re start the Premier League and Championship in June to help lift the mood of the nation.

    A bit of light peeking through a hole in the tunnel.

    I'm guessing by your posts that you don't realise just how much the GAA championship means to huge swathes of our country.

    The summer gave people in communities all throughout the country something to get their mind off the ****storm we are in by watching their friends, sons, daughters, grandkids play sport.

    The winter will hopefully do the same on a grander scale.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    ShyMets wrote: »
    There was no Gaelic action as you refer to it during the summer in terms of Intercounty Championship. The months when it is traditionally played.

    I suspect this is just a thread for people who don't like GAA to give it a good bashing

    The point is: why couldn't Gaelic fans do without it for one year? After all, that's what Britain did with Wimbledon - and also many non-sporting events.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,709 ✭✭✭ Coillte_Bhoy


    Im undecided on whether i think the cship should go ahead but there will not be repeats of the scenes witnessed at county finals and their aftermaths. Its a completely different situation to the county finals


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,394 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE


    If gob****es want to gather and have a party they will do it whether it's after the GAA or the pigeon racing.

    The problem was with the idiots gathering rather than with the GAA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ ShyMets


    The point is: why couldn't Gaelic fans do without it for one year? After all, that's what Britain did with Wimbledon - and also many non-sporting events.

    If Wimbledon has traditionally been played in August instead of June it would almost certainly gone ahead as sport in the UK has restarted by that time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ scrubs33


    My real fear is what happens when teams win an all Ireland? If the sessions after a county final win are bad imagine if a county which hasn’t won for ages wins? Throw in the fact it will be Christmas time and I think the figures for early January will be spectacular.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ scrubs33


    Im undecided on whether i think the cship should go ahead but there will not be repeats of the scenes witnessed at county finals and their aftermaths. Its a completely different situation to the county finals

    There may not be in the stadium but imagine if Mayo or Waterford win? Holy moly it will be bedlam in every corner of the county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,393 ✭✭✭ CrowdedHouse


    scrubs33 wrote: »
    but imagine if Mayo or Waterford win? Holy moly it will be bedlam in every corner of the county.

    I know people are under pressure in these troubled times but let's not get carried away :D

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ scrubs33


    I know people are under pressure in these troubled times but let's not get carried away :D
    I wouldn’t write off the Mayo hurlers...😀


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,709 ✭✭✭ Coillte_Bhoy


    scrubs33 wrote: »
    There may not be in the stadium but imagine if Mayo or Waterford win? Holy moly it will be bedlam in every corner of the county.

    Oh ya i accept that totally, and i was going to mention those two teams actually. As a big Mayo fan, i can just imagine the chaos in the county, all good intentions would go out the window. Would be just like us, to win it an empty Croke Park, pubs closed and no homecoming :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,475 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Oh ya i accept that totally, and i was going to mention those two teams actually. As a big Mayo fan, i can just imagine the chaos in the county, all good intentions would go out the window. Would be just like us, to win it an empty Croke Park, pubs closed and no homecoming :eek:

    Off licences will be busy, cant wait for all the Waterford games

    Liverpool winning the PL could be a sign, seriously clutching at straws here :D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭ Belt


    The point is: why couldn't Gaelic fans do without it for one year? After all, that's what Britain did with Wimbledon - and also many non-sporting events.

    Wimbledon had pandemic insurance , that is why it was cancelled. Not some sense of duty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭ Cluedo Monopoly


    piplip87 wrote: »
    The GAA have taken all the precautions here yet these outbreaks happened in towns and villages not in the grounds. Publicans, Players, Management and supporters are to blame here.

    This is correct.

    Every club/village/town that won county finals would show clusters soon afterwards if that data was available.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,393 ✭✭✭ CrowdedHouse


    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    Belt wrote: »
    Wimbledon had pandemic insurance , that is why it was cancelled. Not some sense of duty.

    Well observed.

    For everyone's benefit here's the relevant link.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/tennis/2020/0629/1150277-wimbledon-rides-pandemic-thanks-to-insurance-cover/


  • Registered Users Posts: 74,942 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    Just cancel the training and games or postpone


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭ seligehgit



    Whatever about the extent that GAA related activities have contributed to the spread of Covid 19 the above is a totally OTT and more than likely based on a dislike of the GAA.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭ political analyst


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Whatever about the extent that GAA related activities have contributed to the spread of Covid 19 the above is a totally OTT and more than likely based on a dislike of the GAA.:rolleyes:

    Agreed. I assure you that my OP is not targeted at the GAA or any particular group of people. I merely asked about people's desperation to have Gaelic games resumed after the first lockdown.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭ CBear1993


    Nobody says that the Church and the GAA are responsible for family gatherings. But there was no need for those people to gather after Gaelic matches. By the way, education is a necessity - unlike Gaelic games.

    Piss off political analyst, you only started this as a windup, because you’re a wind up merchant. Ye gobsh#te


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