Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Funsterdelux

Roger_007 wrote: »

How could you possibly know that it is mainly spread through droplets?

Droplets and aerosols

A spin class. One COVID-19 positive participant with no symptoms. 51 cases.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TorontoStar/status/1315999846998970369

niallo27

froog wrote: »

yeah you're right, **** science! what did science ever do for us?

That makes no sense, the poster just said different scientists have different opinions. Where did it say anything about **** science.

Stheno

manofwisdom wrote: »

@mloc it was no party dinner. It was a Inter County team having a bite to eat after a match which is allowed. Guards were called out because some curtain tichers took to social media and wrongfully thought guidelines was abused.

Two teams no? More than 30 people?

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

I'm in clare, its not good down here. People dead on the roads everywhere, pubs closed and not a toilet roll to be found. What exactly do you want to be prepared for.

Some people have resorted to cannibalism in the local Aldi, the army should intervene at this rate. It wasn't even outbreaks related to Travellers or schools, that doesn't fit the media script. God help us all.

Roger_007

froog wrote: »

yeah you're right, **** science! what did science ever do for us?

In the case of coronavirus, not a lot, just a jumble of contradictory opinions and ever-changing advice.

Maestro85

niallo27 wrote: »

I'm in clare, its not good down here. People dead on the roads everywhere, pubs closed and not a toilet roll to be found. What exactly do you want to be prepared for.

Sounds like a normal night in Shannon.

froog

niallo27 wrote: »

That makes no sense, the poster just said different scientists have different opinions. Where did it say anything about **** science.

it makes no sense if you have trouble reading simple posts.

bennyl10

Dublin is doing great they say

In regards to Level 3 and its effect on Dublin.

When the capital imposed extra restrictions on 18 Sept, the 5-day average for daily cases was 139.4

After 3 1/2 weeks, today that average is now up at 206.8 cases a day in Dublin alone.

https://twitter.com/robohanrahan/status/1316071187781431296?s=21

Stheno

bennyl10 wrote: »

Dublin is doing great they say

In regards to Level 3 and its effect on Dublin.

When the capital imposed extra restrictions on 18 Sept, the 5-day average for daily cases was 139.4

After 3 1/2 weeks, today that average is now up at 206.8 cases a day in Dublin alone.
https://twitter.com/robohanrahan/status/1316071187781431296?s=21

What were the 14 day trends on the same dates?

podgeandrodge

froog wrote: »

coronavirus is mainly spread through droplets. masks catch a good amount of those droplets.

it's not rocket science.

If proven true as main source, perhaps masks are not catching a sufficient amount of those droplets so the remnants are sufficient? In which case not a huge help even if blocking 90% of droplets. Dunno.

Definitely people in the main, myself as guilty as them, putting them on/off, into jacket pocket and out for a few days. Sad but true and I wonder what amount of cross contamination is going on.

copeyhagen

WHO Envoy: "I want to say it again: We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of controlling this virus,' Dr Nabarro said.'This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe, actually. And so, we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method. Develop better systems for doing it."

Boards.ie pro lockdown brigade: "we need level 5 now, please God give us level 5"

Fuascailteoir

GAA seem to have done their best to spread this around the whole country. Don't see why they couldn't have shelved things for this year.

bennyl10

Stheno wrote: »

What were the 14 day trends on the same dates?

14 day up to 27/09 160.3

14 day yesterday 178.4

So worse again

caveat emptor

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

I see a lot of those visor things on staff rather than face masks, they are completely useless.

This a thousand times. The advice stated "where a face mask isn't practical a face shield can be used"

Same as saying where "where a face mask isn't practical don't wear one"

Masks aren't practical for most people but they are necessary. Plenty of people like a grey area but it's equivalent of pissing in the wind.

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

Boards.ie pro lockdown brigade: "we need level 5 now, please God give us level 5"

Determined to flog themselves into a euphoric state, the kinky wenches. Rest of us in the real world realise that we have to co-exist with Covid until a vaccine becomes widely available.

political analyst

manofwisdom wrote: »

@mloc it was no party dinner. It was a Inter County team having a bite to eat after a match which is allowed. Guards were called out because some curtain tichers took to social media and wrongfully thought guidelines was abused.

Couldn't Ireland have done without Gaelic games for just 1 year?!

Sure, Britain did without the Wimbledon championship and made many other sacrifices, e.g. cancellation of World War 2 victory commemorations.

Spanish Eyes

Schools. Can't mention them, we are being propagandised and brainwashed now.

Some can cite house parties, GAA gatherings and so on, but on a comparison basis, there are thousands of kids of all ages in school, all together in close enough quarters, along with their teachers all day, five days a week, and add in the drop off and pick ups. I am not one bit convinced that cohort is not a big vector for this uptick.

Happy to be told off.

niallo27

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

GAA seem to have done their best to spread this around the whole country. Don't see why they couldn't have shelved things for this year.

Unless they were organising the parties afterwards, I'm not sure how you can blame them. Did many infections happen during matches or training.

c.p.w.g.w

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Even with masks mandatory more cases now in retail shops

Sure folks are touching masks, taking them off, putting them on...and touching surfaces...that an issue that some folks forget...in Oz a team has discovered the virus can live on surfaces for 28 days

c.p.w.g.w

niallo27 wrote: »

Unless they were organising the parties afterwards, I'm not sure how you can blame them. Did many infections happen during matches or training.

When football fans misbehave it's always the club's fault, but when it's the GAA it's nobodies fault...

BringBackMick

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Schools. Can't mention them, we are being propagandised and brainwashed now.

Some can cite house parties, GAA gatherings and so on, but on a comparison basis, there are thousands of kids of all ages in school, all together in close enough quarters, along with their teachers all day, five days a week, and add in the drop off and pick ups. I am not one bit convinced that cohort is not a big vector for this uptick.

Happy to be told off.

Certainly secondary school- most are full grown adults at that stage, it just doesn't add up they cannot transmit the virus just as readily as a 20yr old

Fair enough a toddler

niallo27

political analyst wrote: »

Couldn't Ireland have done without Gaelic games for just 1 year?!

Sure, Britain did without the Wimbledon championship and made many other sacrifices, e.g. cancellation of World War 2 victory commemorations.

You can't compare a 2 week international tournament with a 5 month domestic competition. Why didn't Britain do without football.

Spanish Eyes

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Schools. Can't mention them, we are being propagandised and brainwashed now.

Some can cite house parties, GAA gatherings and so on, but on a comparison basis, there are thousands of kids of all ages in school, all together in close enough quarters, along with their teachers all day, five days a week, and add in the drop off and pick ups. I am not one bit convinced that cohort is not a big vector for this uptick.

Happy to be told off.

Don't forget the real enemy: the pubs. You know that wildly dangerous environment with a handful of people having a socially distanced pint. Put thousands permanently out of work over a miniscule threat, that will fix things proper.

The double-standards are a disgrace.

copeyhagen

copeyhagen wrote: »

WHO Envoy: "I want to say it again: We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of controlling this virus,' Dr Nabarro said.'This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe, actually. And so, we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method. Develop better systems for doing it."

Boards.ie pro lockdown brigade: "we need level 5 now, please God give us level 5"

That is the most important part of that statement.

caveat emptor

copeyhagen wrote: »

WHO Envoy: "I want to say it again: We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as a primary means of controlling this virus,' Dr Nabarro said.'This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe, actually. And so, we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method. Develop better systems for doing it."

Boards.ie pro lockdown brigade: "we need level 5 now, please God give us level 5"

Nobody want's a lockdown or level 5. That's crazy talk. Same could be said about the it'll be grand brigade saying "your granny is going to die sooner or later". Hyperbole is not helpful.

Widdensushi

BringBackMick wrote: »

Certainly secondary school- most are full grown adults at that stage, it just doesn't add up they cannot transmit the virus just as readily as a 20yr old

Fair enough a toddler

The 15/24 age group seems to be getting the most cases

Roger_007

Widdensushi wrote: »

The 15/24 age group seems to be getting the most cases

Except the ones at school..........apparently

political analyst

niallo27 wrote: »

You can't compare a 2 week international tournament with a 5 month domestic competition. Why didn't Britain do without football.

Britain is much more densely populated than Ireland and so it was always going to have a significant surge of Covid cases when lockdown ended even if there'd been no football matches taking place. Ireland is less densely populated and so would have had a better chance of avoiding a second wave if it had no sporting events when lockdown ended.

manniot2

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

GAA seem to have done their best to spread this around the whole country. Don't see why they couldn't have shelved things for this year.

47 people associated with moycullen gaa have it apparently

Doctors room ghost

niallo27 wrote: »

Unless they were organising the parties afterwards, I'm not sure how you can blame them. Did many infections happen during matches or training.

There wouldn’t be post match celebrations if there was no matches though.its fairly basic stuff.
The idea they are planning to host intercounty championship the end of the month is a fcukin farce.
I’d hazard a guess that if it does go ahead it won’t last a fortnight with loads of players testing positive.what happens if a team cant play due to positive tests?a load of sh1te the lot of it.
Whole lot should have been cancelled long ago