Giro D'Italia Stage 6: Castrovillari to Matera (188km)

mr spuckler

A rolling stage to calm things down for the GC riders today, it's probably a toss up in advance as to whether it will go to the breakaway or sprinters as seen through the favourites for the day showing a mix of both types of specialists.








Favourites from Bet365...
Peter Sagan 5/2
Michael Matthews 17/4
Arnaud Demare 7/1
Diego Ulissi 8/1
Davide Ballerini 9/1
Andrea Vendrame 14/1
Thomas De Gendt 18/1

Tim76

mr spuckler wrote: »

Favourites from Bet365...
Peter Sagan 5/2
Michael Matthews 17/4
Arnaud Demare 7/1
Diego Ulissi 8/1
Davide Ballerini 9/1
Andrea Vendrame 14/1
Thomas De Gendt 18/1

No Ganna???

mr spuckler

Tim76 wrote: »

No Ganna???

80/1 :pac:

geotrig

I know its the giro and its information re GC is terrible in general most years but jesus I've struggled to find GC information this year

mr spuckler

geotrig wrote: »

I know its the giro and its information re GC is terrible in general most years but jesus I've struggled to find GC information this year

Here you go.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2020/stage-5-gc

Official Giro website has it fairly handy too!
https://www.giroditalia.it/en/classifiche/

De Bhál

coverage starts at 11:25 on Eurosport

Tim76

mr spuckler wrote: »

80/1 :pac:

Lump on boys

Macy0161

Bora to push on. Sagan to blow it.

Inquitus

Macy0161 wrote: »

Bora to push on. Sagan to blow it.

Was about to say the same, this stage seems made for it. Sagan ftw imho!

MPFGLB

Ulissi ?

Inquitus

Bora could perhaps hold fire and try to get rid of the other sprinters on the Cat 3 nearer the end, would save them having to ride all day 4.7km @ 6.9% is probably enough to do the job and prevent anyone dropped getting back on?

Macy0161

I'd reckon if Sagan can get over, Demare can. And Demare is faster, and has a better lead out.

geotrig

mr spuckler wrote: »

Here you go.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2020/stage-5-gc

Official Giro website has it fairly handy too!
https://www.giroditalia.it/en/classifiche/

haha, that's the 1st time the giro site has loaded with the GC info for me ,bookmarked the procyclestats site though :cool:

LCD

225km up & down yesterday, 188km today & straight out the door into a climb today, uncategoirsed. That means 40mins odd of riding the turbo before the day even starts. Am sure not many guys in the bunch feel that they're "living the dream"

Dodge

geotrig wrote: »

haha, that's the 1st time the giro site has loaded with the GC info for me ,bookmarked the procyclestats site though :cool:

I’ve had trouble with the Giro site too. Very slow in getting results up!

neris

thats some village even if it is abandoned

neris

neris wrote: »

thats some village even if it is abandoned

The sights you see watching cycling. Amazing to see.

Tim76

neris wrote: »

thats some village even if it is abandoned

The Italians even do ghost estates with style.

Richard Hillman

Loving all of these hill top towns

Smith on commentary now hatch must have needed the loo .

neris

Tim76 wrote: »

The Italians even do ghost estates with style.

Think the south is covered with a good few abandoned hill villages & cave towns. Though some of them have started to be repopulated and you can buy a house for a few euro but you have to do it up in a time frame and you can spend a fortune doing a pile of crumbled bricks up

neris

Pink jersey down

mr spuckler

neris wrote: »

Pink jersey down

That looked a bit nasty.

More bonkers stuff at the giro. Shoved into a ditch 🀣

Tim76

Tim76 wrote: »

Lump on boys

Ganna on the front!

dastardly00

I hope Sagan wins

mr spuckler

dastardly00 wrote: »

I hope Sagan wins

He was miles back before the sprint started and didn't look like he really got fully going at all.

Mefistofelino

Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory again!

De Bhál

dastardly00 wrote: »

I hope Sagan wins

somehow he lost it on that last bend whatever happened - lost about 10 places

neris

well done Arnold

Tim76

Nearly got a heart attack, thought that was Ganna in the blue for a sec when Demare came out!

Wow !!!!!

He was miles back coming into the finish, times moving up to perfection.

Bonkers sprint with Nibs and birdsong involved at times there too.

mr spuckler

Those are some stunning shots from the chopper, much better position for it too rather than blowing barriers across the road.

MPFGLB

Demare stronger than anyone has ever seen him

Wont get a chance to see him sprint against Sam this season ?

MPFGLB

MPFGLB wrote: »

Demare stronger than anyone has ever seen him

Wont get a chance to see him sprint against Sam this season ?

Good thing he wasn't the tour maybe?

Dodge

Different type of sprinters I think. In a flat out sprint, Sam beats him

Any word on what happened Sagan? Are the legs just gone?

MangleBadger

Dodge wrote: »

Different type of sprinters I think. In a flat out sprint, Sam beats him

Any word on what happened Sagan? Are the legs just gone?

It looked like he was just completely boxed in after the last turn. Gave up then.

dahat

Bora empty the tank all day long yet again & Sagan fails to deliver, again.

neris

Dodge wrote: »

Different type of sprinters I think. In a flat out sprint, Sam beats him

Any word on what happened Sagan? Are the legs just gone?

Old age

dahat

Dodge wrote: »

Different type of sprinters I think. In a flat out sprint, Sam beats him

Any word on what happened Sagan? Are the legs just gone?

I actually think when Nibali had a little dig it upset the rhythm of the run in & Sagan was left too far forward when Nibali overshot the bend. After that there was little order for the gallop which allowed Demare to get back in.

Finnrocco

Look at Demare's results since the return.

Somehow he didn't win Paris - Chauny.

Finnrocco

Finnrocco wrote: »

Look at Demare's results since the return.

Somehow he didn't win Paris - Chauny.

Bouhanni went really early and got the drop on all of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6W-vSAlMn4

Gamma1

MPFGLB wrote: »

Demare stronger than anyone has ever seen him

Wont get a chance to see him sprint against Sam this season ?

He beat Sam in Burgos earlier - and just as well for Sam he did not show for the tour.

Dodge

Gamma1 wrote: »

He beat Sam in Burgos earlier - and just as well for Sam he did not show for the tour.

The 2 sprint stages in Burgos were won by Gaviria and Sam. Demare was second twice.

Now I know Sam's stage was him just powering off the front after the crash but I don't know how you'd use that race as evidence that Demare is the better spinter

In Walloon this year, Sam was ahead of Demare in both sprints, they contested.

EDIT; Coming across harsh here on Demare. He's a great classics/strongman sprinter in the style of Sagan or Dagenkolb. He won GC in Wallonn and Sam was dropped on a couple of hills. Sam is faster on the flat "traditional" sprints that appear in stage races. As I said, different types of sprinters. Demare is definitely benefitting from a poor field of sprinters in the Giro with Gaviria and Viviani seemingly way off the pace

Macy0161

Dodge wrote: »

Any word on what happened Sagan? Are the legs just gone?

From the outside, to me, it looks like he's just not that interested/ enjoying his cycling at the moment. Also going to the Giro for the start fee, rather than the classics, a sign he's going through the motions. Obviously, this is purely my impression, not based on any info.

I could see him retiring after this contract, or doing a van der Poel, and going Pro Conti with the freedom to do MTB/ non-UCI events.

Although I've also heard it hinted at that his ex-wife used to do drive a lot of the social media stuff that cultivated the image, so I could be just talking bollox and he hasn't changed, just his marketing!

Gamma1

Dodge wrote: »

The 2 sprint stages in Burgos were won by Gaviria and Sam. Demare was second twice.

Now I know Sam's stage was him just powering off the front after the crash but I don't know how you'd use that race as evidence that Demare is the better spinter

In Walloon this year, Sam was ahead of Demare in both sprints, they contested.

EDIT; Coming across harsh here on Demare. He's a great classics/strongman sprinter in the style of Sagan or Dagenkolb. He won GC in Wallonn and Sam was dropped on a couple of hills. Sam is faster on the flat "traditional" sprints that appear in stage races. As I said, different types of sprinters. Demare is definitely benefitting from a poor field of sprinters in the Giro with Gaviria and Viviani seemingly way off the pace

Yes you are right - my recollection of Burgos was incorrect - also agree Sam will win against Demare on a straight sprint.