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Tax on hospital procedure.

  • 29-09-2020 10:29am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭


    Had to go in to a private hospital during lockdown.
    Private hospitals were being used as public hospitals at the time so I was told there is no charge.
    Received a letter today saying there is an outstanding balance to be paid in respect of government levy.
    Should this have been covered by my prsi?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    No - there is a charge for A&E and overnight stays unless you have a medical card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    lashes34 wrote: »
    No - there is a charge for A&E and overnight stays unless you have a medical card.

    Hi, I don't have a medical card but it wasn't a&e and I didn't stay overnight.
    My local gp referred me which the hospital told me to come in 4 days after visiting gp.

    Would that be the same thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭lashes34


    Havent a clue, why dont you ring them and query it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    lashes34 wrote: »
    Havent a clue, why dont you ring them and query it?

    Tax office?

    I don't mind paying unless it's something covered by payments I already made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,228 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    blade1 wrote: »
    Tax office?

    Hospital.
    blade1 wrote: »
    I don't mind paying unless it's something covered by payments I already made.

    Tax allowances for medical treatment only ever apply in retrospect. You'll have to pay the bill now and then claim the tax back in January.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Hospital.



    Tax allowances for medical treatment only ever apply in retrospect. You'll have to pay the bill now and then claim the tax back in January.

    Right so, thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    blade1 wrote: »
    Hi, I don't have a medical card but it wasn't a&e and I didn't stay overnight.
    My local gp referred me which the hospital told me to come in 4 days after visiting gp.

    Would that be the same thing?

    Under normal circumstances if your GP referred you to A & E you wouldn't have to pay the hospital charge as you would have already paid your GP. Is it the equivalent of an A & E charge they're looking for?

    Edit:
    FRom the HSE website;
    Outpatient and Emergency Department (A+E) Charges
    If you attend the out-patients department or emergency department (A+E) of a public hospital without being referred by your GP or family doctor, you may be charged a standard fee. There is no charge if you are referred by your GP. You must show the referral letter from your GP when you attend the out-patients department or emergency department (A+E).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    blade1 wrote: »
    Right so, thanks.

    Also that's tax relief at 20% of the fee you paid. Getting medical issues covers by PRSI is something completely different and is handled by Welfare not Revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Also that's tax relief at 20% of the fee you paid. Getting medical issues covers by PRSI is something completely different and is handled by Welfare not Revenue.

    Ok I see, I just thought it was tax.
    I'll just pay it.
    Taxman has probably a second property in the south of France from me already so rather not pay more than I'm supposed to :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    blade1 wrote: »
    Ok I see, I just thought it was tax.
    I'll just pay it.
    Taxman has probably a second property in the south of France from me already so rather not pay more than I'm supposed to :pac:

    Hospitals don't charge tax. What's the charge for?

    I was in hospital for two weeks with covid 19 and they chanced their arm and sent me a bill for €7,500. Just sayin'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    emeldc wrote: »
    Hospitals don't charge tax. What's the charge for?

    I was in hospital for two weeks with covid 19 and they chanced their arm and sent me a bill for €7,500. Just sayin'.

    Government levy letter says.
    Was told procedure was free so just the levy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    blade1 wrote: »
    Government levy letter says.
    Was told procedure was free so just the levy.

    But surely that's the same as the A&E or out patient charge? If you had a referral letter you shouldn't be charged. Would you not query it. You'll never have the gaff in the south of France!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    emeldc wrote: »
    But surely that's the same as the A&E or out patient charge? If you had a referral letter you shouldn't be charged. Would you not query it. You'll never have the gaff in the south of France!

    I'm not sure I have a referral letter.

    This is how it went.
    Went to doctor.
    He said we better get you to hospital.
    Got a letter off hospital 2 days later to come in 2 days later again.
    Went in on day at 8am and came out at 7pm.
    Left with issue sorted but walking a bit funny :D

    I think I had a letter from gp but I couldn't swear on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    blade1 wrote: »
    I'm not sure I have a referral letter.

    This is how it went.
    Went to doctor.
    He said we better get you to hospital.
    Got a letter off hospital 2 days later to come in 2 days later again.
    Went in on day at 8am and came out at 7pm.
    Lett with issue sorted but walking a bit funny :D

    Well to me it sounds like you were referred by the doctor. You shouldn't have to pay twice but it's up to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,606 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    emeldc wrote: »
    Well to me it sounds like you were referred by the doctor. You shouldn't have to pay twice but it's up to you.

    Well I wasn't expecting a charge but it's not the end of the world.
    Issue sorted was the main thing.


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