Why are the far left so pro lockdown ?

Double O Seven

This must be the first issue ever that Paul Murphy, Dick Boyd Barrett & co have supported the government on, indeed a lot of the so called far right who protest lockdown would have been past voters for the AAA-PBP.

sabat

Because they've been programmed to act in lockstep with the forces of control.

Because the left is pro-science.

Silentcorner

It's not that they are left wing so much as Irish...we really hate people who don't toe the line regardless of how pointless that line is!!!!

In the case of the far left in Ireland, I'd imagine just like the far right they are just as thick skulled!!!

Beasty

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sabat

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because the left is pro-science.

And also programmed to smear anyone who speaks against them as irrational...

MadYaker

Double O Seven wrote: »

This must be the first issue ever that Paul Murphy, Dick Boyd Barrett & co have supported the government on, indeed a lot of the so called far right who protest lockdown would have been past voters for the AAA-PBP.

You'll find support for lockdown from the left and the right. It's not really a political issue. Some think it's necessary, others don't, I don't think it has much to do left wing or right wing views. Why do people constantly feel the need to make everything left or right?

Silentcorner

Deleted User wrote: »

Because the left is pro-science.

Is there science behind the mask requirement...there wasn't 6 months ago?

macpaccrack

I mean left wing generally means that they are more caring. They want everyone to have healthcare, education etc. even if it means paying more tax. They want to give others in struggling situations the opportunity to excel so they support things like immigration, equality etc. In that regard they would be against putting our elderly people in harms way because people want to have their pints.

Right wing would be much more self involving in their outlook. They don't want to pay taxes to help others with education and health and believe that it is up to the individual to get themselves in a position where they can afford their own healthcare and education. They like the status quo and don't want to see equality and detest immigration because they see it as less opportunities and resources for them. In that regard they don't care if elderly are at risk because thats life and they shouldn't have to suffer and miss their pints to save lives.

road_high

Because those scroungers will not have to pay for it. To be paid to sit at home to do nothing is their idea of utopia

xhomelezz

Silentcorner wrote: »

Is there science behind the mask requirement...there wasn't 6 months ago?

It was there, just slow approach here.

CiarraiManc

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because the left is pro-science.

Morality and facts have a left wing bias.

Why are the psychotics so pro open up, is it due to following online grifters religiously?

road_high

macpaccrack wrote: »

I mean left wing generally means that they are more caring. They want everyone to have healthcare, education etc. even if it means paying more tax. They want to give others in struggling situations the opportunity to excel so they support things like immigration, equality etc. In that regard they would be against putting our elderly people in harms way because people want to have their pints.

Right wing would be much more self involving in their outlook. They don't want to pay taxes to help others with education and health and believe that it is up to the individual to get themselves in a position where they can afford their own healthcare and education. They like the status quo and don't want to see equality and detest immigration because they see it as less opportunities and resources for them. In that regard they don't care if elderly are at risk because thats life and they shouldn't have to suffer and miss their pints to save lives.

No, the left want to spend/waste other people’s hard earned money for their own ends

Bubbaclaus

Silentcorner wrote: »

Is there science behind the mask requirement...there wasn't 6 months ago?

You should tell the healthcare workers that have been wearing them for decades that they are no good.

sydthebeat

What's not to understand about the far left being pro-society whereas far right is pro-individuality?

Silentcorner

xhomelezz wrote: »

It was there, just slow approach here.

So why haven't we been using masks to protect people from all the other viruses that kill people every year?

What was different about the Covid virus?

Meathman12

Silentcorner wrote: »

Is there science behind the mask requirement...there wasn't 6 months ago?

There weren't any masks available 6.months ago, so why would any organisation suggest their use? Instead it was recommended that people keep a distance away.

sabat

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You should tell the healthcare workers that have been wearing them for decades that they are no good.

I have a pack of masks in front of me that says "NOT FOR MEDICAL USE" on it...

xhomelezz

road_high wrote: »

No, the left want to spend/waste other people’s hard earned money for their own ends

Oh god, you definitely have a problem to identify your left and right hand. Anyway feel free to post your nonsense agenda over all covid threads. Won't make a difference in the end

Mongfinder General

Not sure that there are too many people left who are pro lockdown in practice. From what I can see, most people are saying one thing and doing another thing. Very much a case of rules are for thee and not for me.

Silentcorner

Silentcorner wrote: »

So why haven't we been using masks to protect people from all the other viruses that kill people every year?

What was different about the Covid virus?

Some do.
When I was looking after my mother who had emphysema, I was working in a medical I.T. position, and used to wear a mask around her when home and had a cold for example.

Silentcorner

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You should tell the healthcare workers that have been wearing them for decades that they are no good.

So health workers always wear masks to protect themselves during the annual flu season...thanks, I never knew that!!!

road_high

xhomelezz wrote: »

Oh god, you definitely have a problem to identify your left and right hand. Anyway feel free to post your nonsense agenda over all covid threads. Won't make a difference in the end

Yes I’ll always speak my mind- another concept the Lazy left struggle with of course.
As we’ve seen with anything they disagree with their first port of call id always censorship

Bubbaclaus

Silentcorner wrote: »

So health workers always wear masks to protect themselves during the annual flu season...thanks, I never knew that!!!

Oh, you are one of those that compares covid to the annual flu. That's me done responding.

sabat

Meathman12 wrote: »

There weren't any masks available 6.months ago, so why would any organisation suggest their use? Instead it was recommended that people keep a distance away.

The same pack in front of me that says NOT FOR MEDICAL USE has a manufacturing date of May 2020 on the back.

road_high

road_high wrote: »

Yes I’ll always speak my mind- another concept the Lazy left struggle with of course.

Don't think people struggle with it, certainly gives me a laugh.

Notmything

Double O Seven wrote: »

This must be the first issue ever that Paul Murphy, Dick Boyd Barrett & co have supported the government on, indeed a lot of the so called far right who protest lockdown would have been past voters for the AAA-PBP.

It means that for the first time ever their supporters are doing something for the community by staying at home and not going out to work.

Richard Hillman

Essentially it's because the otherside are anti-lockdown. They were pretty quiet early on. They just wanted to see which side everything pans out on.

I think as well they feel that financial armageddon is to their benefit. That when everybody loses their jobs and government have to make cuts, it is their time to shine.

What they are not seeing is that it is normal business owners that are getting killed and its the Jeff Bezos of this world that are gaining.

Meathman12

Silentcorner wrote: »

Is there science behind the mask requirement...there wasn't 6 months ago?

How many people commenting on masks and ppe knew what a mask was 9 months ago? Or knew the difference between a respirator and a mask or knew what ffp3, kn95 or n95 meant.
Hopefully people realise that industry has used respiratory protection equipment for years.

Silentcorner

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Oh, you are one of those that compares covid to the annual flu. That's me done responding.

You were the one who said health workers have been wearing masks for their protection for decades...

I'm actually pro mask, if it helps even just a little it is worth it, if it allays people's fear it is worth it...but lets not kid ourselves...there is no science behind it!!!

Polar101

Ah yes, everyone who doesn't agree with me is "far" something - always the recipe for great internet discussions.

senordingdong

Double O Seven wrote: »

This must be the first issue ever that Paul Murphy, Dick Boyd Barrett & co have supported the government on, indeed a lot of the so called far right who protest lockdown would have been past voters for the AAA-PBP.

Because they're in love with the idea of a state that will take care of them.

road_high

DubInMeath wrote: »

Don't think people struggle with it, certainly gives me a laugh.

Course you struggle with it- you use the pretence of humour to denigrate opinions because you don’t agree with them. The left are always transparent as plotting paper

sabat

Silentcorner wrote: »

Is there science behind the mask requirement...there wasn't 6 months ago?

Yes there is science behind it. Behavioural psychology and mass indoctrination techniques.

Galwayguy35

macpaccrack wrote: »

I mean left wing generally means that they are more caring. They want everyone to have healthcare, education etc. even if it means paying more tax. They want to give others in struggling situations the opportunity to excel so they support things like immigration, equality etc. In that regard they would be against putting our elderly people in harms way because people want to have their pints.

Right wing would be much more self involving in their outlook. They don't want to pay taxes to help others with education and health and believe that it is up to the individual to get themselves in a position where they can afford their own healthcare and education. They like the status quo and don't want to see equality and detest immigration because they see it as less opportunities and resources for them. In that regard they don't care if elderly are at risk because thats life and they shouldn't have to suffer and miss their pints to save lives.

In other words they want the workshy to get everything and taxpayers to be screwed even more than we already are.

Bubbaclaus

Silentcorner wrote: »

You were the one who said health workers have been wearing masks for their protection for decades...

I'm actually pro mask, if it helps even just a little it is worth it, if it allays people's fear it is worth it...but lets not kid ourselves...there is no science behind it!!!

Do you really need science to prove basic common sense?

Also, as you surely know by now, the masks available for the public have little to do with protecting yourself. I'm sure you know that though.

sabat

sabat wrote: »

Yes there is science behind it. Behavioural psychology and mass indoctrination techniques.

Which of the geniuses you follow gave you this pearl of wisdom?

Silentcorner

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Do you really need science to prove basic common sense?

Also, as you surely know by now, the masks available for the public have little to do with protecting yourself. I'm sure you know that though.

I've already said I don't...I wear a mask, as required, I don't have an issue with it...but there is no science behind the requirement whatsoever, which is what I stated all along.

xhomelezz

sabat wrote: »

I have a pack of masks in front of me that says "NOT FOR MEDICAL USE" on it...

Don't use them so, they could bite.

Jimmy Twotimes

Communist state level of crontrol over your life? Of course they love it.

Bubbaclaus

DubInMeath wrote: »

Which of the geniuses you follow gave you this pearl of wisdom?

Probably that failed journalist or the fella named after a playstation racing game.

Bubbaclaus

Silentcorner wrote: »

I've already said I don't...I wear a mask, as required, I don't have an issue with it...but there is no science behind the requirement whatsoever, which is what I stated all along.

Is there science behind wearing a scarf when it's cold?

road_high

road_high wrote: »

Course you struggle with it- you use the pretence of humour to denigrate opinions because you don’t agree with them. The left are always transparent as plotting paper

No struggle, and you as transparent as muslin, also guessed wrong about my politics as with everything else.

macpaccrack

road_high wrote: »

No, the left want to spend/waste other people’s hard earned money for their own ends

The weird thing it is the left wing that tend to pay the most taxes as they are more likely to be working in higher earning professions.

Most of the far right have lower education, work in menial jobs or are on state benefits and yet they are the ones that seem to be most intent on opposing taxes.

one world order

The left like mass indoctrination and government control. The agenda behind the global pandemic is perfect for them. They also tend to be godless and want God out of society much like communism, while the bible gives warnings about this period of time we are now in.

xhomelezz

one world order wrote: »

The left like mass indoctrination and government control. The agenda behind the global pandemic is perfect for them. They also tend to be godless and want God out of society much like communism, while the bible gives warnings about this period of time we are now in.

oh god

Strumms

There is generally a more empathetic and intelligent outlook from the left.

The right just often think about themselves and their own families, interests etc. and judge success and happiness by making money.

Left thinking people want wellness, health of and for people. That’s the priority.

They also seek to succeed too in business as any other aspect of life but they are not willing to do so to the detriment of health and lives of others.

Bubbaclaus

macpaccrack wrote: »

The weird thing it is the left wing that tend to pay the most taxes as they are more likely to be working in higher earning professions.

Most of the far right have lower education, work in menial jobs or are on state benefits and yet they are the ones that seem to be most intent on opposing taxes.

The extremes of both wings tend to be poorly educated.

one world order

one world order wrote: »

The left like mass indoctrination and government control. The agenda behind the global pandemic is perfect for them. They also tend to be godless and want God out of society much like communism, while the bible gives warnings about this period of time we are now in.

Religious people going on about mass indoctrination and control sure there is a word for that

Silentcorner

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Is there science behind wearing a scarf when it's cold?

You're just looking for a silly argument now...