Tour de France 2020 | Stage 13 (Châtel-Guyon - Puy Mary, 191.5 km)

Inquitus

A finish atop a super-steep ramp with little space at the summit in the middle of nowhere... yet this is not the Vuelta. The stage supposedly has the highest elevation gain of any stage in the race.



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Start: 11:50

Col de Ceyssat: 13:02/13:05/13:07

Col de Guéry: 13:43/13:49/13:53

Montée de La Stèle: 14:16/14:24/14:31

Intermediate sprint: 14:49/14:58/15:07

Côte de l'Estiade: 15:19/15:29/15:40

Côte d'Anglards-de-Salers: 15:53/16:06/16:18

Col de Neronne: 16:28/16:43/16:57

Finish at Pas de Peyrol: 16:47/17:02/17:17



Climbs

The opening ramp through Châteaugay is roughly 3k at 6%, I couldn't find a profile, but it should help the stronger climbers if the breakaway forms early. 25 kilometers in, the riders tackle a proper climb, the cat. 1 Col de Ceyssat.



The race heads through the Monts Dore up the cat. 3 Col de Guéry and then reaches the harder climb of Montée de la Stèle.



A long, gradual descent follows this climb, the intermediate sprint is at a flatter section near its end. The terrain remains undulating, but the Côte de l'Estiade and the Côte d'Anglards-de-Salers aren't too hard. With 15k to go, the business end of the stage finally starts, first with the Col de Néronne from its previously unused steepest side...



...then the Pas de Peyrol, also from its steepest side, although this one has been used quite often. It's the final 11.3k of the profile below, a flat and a short descent from the summit of Néronne, then 3.5 easy and 2 brutally steep kilometers to the finish.



General classification after Stage 12

Primoz Roglic
Egan Bernal + 0.21
Guillaume Martin + 0.28
Romain Bardet + 0.30
Nairo Quintana + 0.32
Rigoberto Uran s.t.
Tadej Pogacar + 0.44
Adam Yates + 1.02
Miguel Ángel López + 1.15
Mikel Landa + 1.42

Points classification after Stage 12

Sam Bennett 252
Peter Sagan 186
Bryan Coquard 155
Caleb Ewan 155
Matteo Trentin 146

Mountains classification after Stage 12

Benoît Cosnefroy 36
Marc Hirschi 31
Nans Peters 31
Toms Skujins 24
Quentin Pacher 21

Young riders classification after Stage 12

Egan Bernal
Tadej Pogacar + 0.23
Enric Mas + 1.41
Sergio Higuita + 12.54
Daniel Felipe Martinez + 1.03.20

Dr. Bre

Maybe an Alaphilippe type day

MPFGLB

Sorry I started a thread as didnt see this one...can someone delete mine

no_4

Don’t think he has the legs tbh

I’d go for Pogacar he’s been under used and protected for several days now

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Maybe an Alaphilippe type day

donfers

if pace is slow over first few climbs then Sagan could cling on for the intermediate sprint

lissard

This stage should suit anyone that would normally go well in Liege-Bastogne-Liege - maybe Bob Jungels? Reckon it could also be a big GC day : 4500m of ascent!

brocbrocach

Dan to go in the break and unleash all the energy he's been building up...

Mefistofelino

They'll be passing the Puy De Dome today - its a pity its been lost to cycling, particularly after yesterday's tribute to Poulidor

brocbrocach

Why lost to cycling?

greendom

This is Bardet's home. Perhaps he'll make a bid today

donfers

Looking at the history of Liege - Bastogne - Liege winners in recent times this lad's life makes for some reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Vandenbroucke_(cyclist)

Mefistofelino

brocbrocach wrote: »

Why lost to cycling?

Its a narrow cul-de sac and some years back, they built a funicular railway to the summit on part of the road space, leaving only a narrow path, completely unsuited to racing

For a while you could ride on it 1-2 mornings a week, provided you were off the climb by around 9 am. Now the only way to ride it is to get a place in the annual sportif

neris

Doubt the Puy de Dome could have handled the modern tour and stupid amount of support vehicles, security, people etc even if they hadnt built the train thingy on it. Theres meant to be a load of climbs that the GTs cant access in their various countries because of the size of the races and support infrastructure following them

CMcsporty

Mefistofelino wrote: »

They'll be passing the Puy De Dome today - its a pity its been lost to cycling, particularly after yesterday's tribute to Poulidor

Great pic!

Today should be a killer! Maybe another breakaway winner today.

I think i would have been a "Pou-Pou" guy!
https://pelotonmagazine.com/features/anquetil-vs-poulidor-the-ultimate-showdown-at-the-tour-of-64/



Anquetil was almost unbeatable, a hard as nails competitor and clinical executioner of race tactics. His close rivalry with fellow Frenchman Raymond Poulidor divided France. Anquetil was cold, calculating and successful. Poulidor was tough, rural and Gallic to the core.

Despite battles that saw the riders collapse over the finishing line, Poulidor could not break Anquetil’s will, finishing a persistent 2nd to the master ‘Monsieur Chrono’ (a nickname given in respect of his time-trialing ability). Due to their intense rivalry, the two found it difficult to communicate until long after their race careers ended. In 1987 At the age of 53, Anquateil died of stomach cancer, but not before making wry amends with Poulidor. Visiting him at home shortly before he died, Anquetil leaned over to Puolidor and said, ‘My friend…….you will come second to me once again.’

dastardly00

brocbrocach wrote: »

Dan to go in the break and unleash all the energy he's been building up...

This is the stage that is most ideally suited to him.
Fingers crossed he is in a good enough condition to try and get in the break.

Sam leading a group chasing back on already. 22 seconds down.

CantGetNoSleep

Deleted User wrote: »

Sam leading a group chasing back on already. 22 seconds down.

Hopefully the intermediate sprint is too far in for Sagan

CantGetNoSleep

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Hopefully the intermediate sprint is too far in for Sagan

110km in with a 1, 3 and 2 cat before it but Trentin and Sagan in a group trying to go across.

MPFGLB

Sagan in a chase group

mewso

Sam back on by the looks of it. What is the purpose of an intermediate sprint during a hilly/mountain stage?

Well Dan is there and 2 DQS guys so hopefully they can hover up the points should it come to it .

happytramp

mewso wrote: »

Sam back on by the looks of it. What is the purpose of an intermediate sprint during a hilly/mountain stage?

To create more excitement at the start? It was working until jumbore visma blocked the road and stopped all the craic.

De Bhál

Dan looking comfortable

dastardly00

Wow, the Cat. 1 climb literally starts in the city

happytramp

happytramp wrote: »

To create more excitement at the start? It was working until jumbore visma blocked the road and stopped all the craic.

Looks like I spoke too soon.

mewso

Jack Bauer reminding me of another box set I could have watched during lockdown. I'll make a note for the next one.

Mefistofelino

dastardly00 wrote: »

Wow, the Cat. 1 climb literally starts in the city

A lot of biggish climbs to the immediate West of Clermont. Good surfaces and decent roads, but can be busy

mewso

mewso wrote: »

Jack Bauer reminding me of another box set I could have watched during lockdown. I'll make a note for the next one.

I always wonder if he's had the number 24 in a race?

MPFGLB

De Bhál wrote: »

Dan looking comfortable

Dan Martin has never looked comfortable in his life

De Bhál

MPFGLB wrote: »

Dan Martin has never looked comfortable in his life

very true...looks it today though.

Early yet, plenty of time for him to get suffering.

retalivity

There will end up being about 20 in this breakaway, winner should come from there.
Ineos firing sivakov up the road is interesting...maybe a point for Bernal to attack to later on.

GetWithIt

No plodders in that breakaway

Julian Alaphilippe, Remi Cavagna (both Deceuninck-Quick-Step), Simon Geschke (CCC), Dan Martin (Israel Start-up Nation), Marc Soler (Movistar), Pierre Rolland (B&B Hotels-Vital Concept), Warren Barguil (Arkea Samsic), Romain Sicard (Total Direct Energie), Hugh Carthy, Daniel Martinez, Neilson Powless (all EF Pro Cycling), Lennard Kamna, Max Schachmann (both Bora-Hansgrohe), David de la Cruz (UAE Team Emirates), Nicolas Edet (Cofidis), Valentin Madouas (Groupam-FDJ) and Pavel Sivakov (Ineos Grenadiers).

Macy0161

neris wrote: »

Doubt the Puy de Dome could have handled the modern tour and stupid amount of support vehicles, security, people etc even if they hadnt built the train thingy on it. Theres meant to be a load of climbs that the GTs cant access in their various countries because of the size of the races and support infrastructure following them

It's also for environmental concerns, and the damage done by visitors (not just cycling) according to The Cycling Podcast. Really great insights on things like this, as well as the cycling - François Thomazeau is involved in writing the tourist/ sites of interest stuff that is on the official website, and the pack that is sent to commentators.

Puy Mary is actually higher than the Puy de Dome, and the suggestion was that they're hoping to establish it as a finish. Also said ASO keep trying to go back up Puy de Dome. They have done other climbs that spectators weren't allowed, main issue would be support vehicles I imagine. Tour of Lombardy has one climb where they use motorbike support only. Get the riders to use the train back down?

brocbrocach

GetWithIt wrote: »

No plodders in that breakaway

Quality climbers almost all. Hopefully our man has been sandbagging from the start.

happytramp

Ewan in big trouble, already 10min back.

dastardly00

Macy0161 wrote: »

It's also for environmental concerns, and the damage done by visitors (not just cycling) according to The Cycling Podcast. Really great insights on things like this, as well as the cycling - François Thomazeau is involved in writing the tourist/ sites of interest stuff that is on the official website, and the pack that is sent to commentators.

Puy Mary is actually higher than the Puy de Dome, and the suggestion was that they're hoping to establish it as a finish. Also said ASO keep trying to go back up Puy de Dome. They have done other climbs that spectators weren't allowed, main issue would be support vehicles I imagine. Tour of Lombardy has one climb where they use motorbike support only. Get the riders to use the train back down?

I'm a big fan of François Thomazeau on The Cycling Podcast, I love listening to him


I'm guessing that the climb in the Tour of Lombardy that they only use motorbike support is the Muro di Sormano

neris

https://twitter.com/ukcyclingexpert/status/1304390029373042688?s=19

dastardly00

happytramp wrote: »

Ewan in big trouble, already 10min back.

Is Sam in the peloton or in a group that is between the peloton and Ewan's small group?

happytramp

happytramp wrote: »

Ewan in big trouble, already 10min back.

That's 10 minutes from Hugh Carthy though not the peloton.

dastardly00

dastardly00 wrote: »

Is Sam in the peloton or in a group that is between the peloton and Ewan's small group?

Looking at the timings live looks like he's in the cars.

neris

There was a stage finish up a climb on the giro 5 or 6 years ago where the road was so narrow they had to use mopeds for support and stop all the race traffic way before the climb. Name of the climb totally escapes me now

happytramp

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's 10 minutes from Hugh Carthy though not the peloton.

The time cut is taken from the winners finishing time right?

Junior

dastardly00 wrote: »

Is Sam in the peloton or in a group that is between the peloton and Ewan's small group?

Sam is back on as far as I can tell, Ewan is ~ 5 Minutes back from the remains of the Peloton (with Jumbo and Roglic) - he has a big ole day a head of him.

SHowing him in the peloton here https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/riders/13

EDIT: God he looks shagged coming over the top there.

neris

Carlton doesn't sound like he's holding out much hope for Sam

Boscoirl

Can’t believe it was 2011 when yer man was thrown into the barbed wire

Only feels like 2 or 3 years ago

As a coincidence my dad was at my house in 2011 when that happened and he's here again now today watching with me.

Bardet and Quintana down.

Steve SilverMint

Bauke Mollema abandons

dastardly00

Boscoirl wrote: »

Can’t believe it was 2011 when yer man was thrown into the barbed wire

Only feels like 2 or 3 years ago

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As a coincidence my dad was at my house in 2011 when that happened and he's here again now today watching with me.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Bardet and Quintana down.

Steve SilverMint wrote: »

Bauke Mollema abandons

I did notice Mollema off the back when I was checking the timings on Sam earlier. They are saying a crash on Eurosport for him.