Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Tij da feen

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You should be isolating form him especially if your showing symptoms, are they progressive or stating to ease.

Furthermore:
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html
You are advised to restrict your movements for 14 days if you:

• are a close contact of a confirmed case of coronavirus
• live with someone who has symptoms of coronavirus, but you feel well

Dressoutlet

Tij da feen wrote: »

Furthermore:
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/if-you-live-with-someone-who-has-coronavirus.html
You are advised to restrict your movements for 14 days if you:

• are a close contact of a confirmed case of coronavirus
• live with someone who has symptoms of coronavirus, but you feel well

Thank you, but HSE Contact tracers have said he does not need to restrict movements if we are negative, regardless of whether we have symptoms. If we develop symptoms after the test he does have to isolate.

Always_Running

the merchant wrote: »

Not yet

Still brewing.

Supercell

Any breakdown of of what constitutes the Dublin regions, even by post codes?
So for example Dublin South-East , where I possibly am, is a virus ridden hell-hole apparently and the culchies all want us locked down, but where do I check that's the case before getting into my bunker to ride it it on beans and my March stash of toilet rolls?

yourdeadwright

210 Today
121 Dublin

the merchant

210 cases today. 121 in Dublin. 17 in Louth. 10 in Limerick.

Funsterdelux

No need for a Dublin lockdown

yourdeadwright

the merchant wrote: »

210 cases today. 121 in Dublin. 17 in Louth. 10 in Limerick.

To slow sucker there's only one Sheriff in this town :cool:
(im joking of course )

blowitupref

A lot considering little or no back log cases? Only explanation is a huge amount of testing was done in the last 24 hours.

stephenjmcd

yourdeadwright wrote: »

210 Today
121 Dublin

While Dublin continues to be high its relatively around the same each day.

Let's see what the swab data says

stephenjmcd

blowitupref wrote: »

A lot considering little or no back log cases? Only explanation is a huge amount of testing was done in the last 24 hours.

On track to be the highest number of tests done in a week I think.

Pushing 12-13k swabs a day based on the HSE charts

wadacrack

yourdeadwright wrote: »

210 Today
121 Dublin

Would say restrictions likely now in Dublin at the weekend. The high amount of cases could jeopardize schools. Third level aswell to come back in a few weeks. I do think it might better for the best long term . This could turn to be out of control rather quickly.

gipi

the merchant wrote: »

210 cases today. 121 in Dublin. 17 in Louth. 10 in Limerick.

What's happening in Louth? I had heard about an outbreak at a construction site in Dundalk, didn't think it contributed that many cases though.

yourdeadwright

wadacrack wrote: »

Would say restrictions likely now in Dublin at the weekend. The high amount of cases could jeopardize schools. Third level aswell to come back in a few weeks. I do think it might be for the best long term . This could turn to be out of control rather quickly.

I hope not have a wedding I really want to go to next Saturday
After that then fire ahead with aul lockdowns

Widdensushi

wadacrack wrote: »

Would say restrictions likely now in Dublin at the weekend. The high amount of cases could jeopardize schools. Third level aswell to come back in a few weeks. I do think it might be for the best long term . This could turn to be out of control rather quickly.

Are the cases scattered around, would they just lockdown the worst area

drunkmonkey

wadacrack wrote: »

Would say restrictions likely now in Dublin at the weekend. The high amount of cases could jeopardize schools. Third level aswell to come back in a few weeks. I do think it might be for the best long term . This could turn to be out of control rather quickly.

What restrictions do you think they could implement they can control or enforce, shut down of non essential shops, close restraunt/bars, mandatory masks in public, they haven't a lot of options legally.

stephenjmcd

wadacrack wrote: »

Would say restrictions likely now in Dublin at the weekend. The high amount of cases could jeopardize schools. Third level aswell to come back in a few weeks. I do think it might be for the best long term . This could turn to be out of control rather quickly.

Highly unlikely. Government position already made clear(for once). Nothing until after next Tuesday at least plus likely to just be a reduction in numbers of households mixing as thats what driving it.
They won't hit other business that's already open because economically its admitted its not feasible and they aren't the problem

Indestructable

NPHET must be a bit annoyed the Government didn't issue their advice yesterday.
Let's be honest though reducing household gatherings to 2 extra parties from outside the home is hardly a restriction at all and those who were not following the guidelines anyway will hardly start now.

amadangomor

Any idea of how long its taking to get a test?

Rang doctor at 9am and they said expect a call in the morning and to be tested today. Still no call

owlbethere

Over the past few weeks, we saw the figures swing from low to high and back down again. Eg. We would see 10/15/20 one day, we might have seen a bit of a jump to 40 or 50 or 60 cases, then it came back down again. I'm very disappointed seeing another day with high numbers. I was hoping after the other day with the 300+ for the days, we might have some days where we would have some low-ish numbers like approx 50/60/70/80. That really hasn't happened. It's a real see-saw of figures now.

stephenjmcd

Indestructable wrote: »

NPHET must be a bit annoyed the Government didn't issue their advice yesterday.
Let's be honest though reducing household gatherings to 2 extra parties from outside the home is hardly a restriction at all and those who were not following the guidelines anyway will hardly start now.

To be honest it's the same advice as has been given since during the week. Reduce your contacts.

Any cases reported now are from before NPHET started singling out Dublin and Limerick to reduce their contacts during the week. If that message has got through its not going to be in the numbers yet.

Arghus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/diarmaid-ferriter-we-must-consider-nphet-may-be-wrong-1.4351749%3Fmode%3Damp&ved=2ahUKEwis19SR--DrAhXNNcAKHRLEC0UQyM8BMBJ6BAgPEAQ&usg=AOvVaw1CK4_x2kAIgAVF7ZFbqelT&ampcf=1

Piece in the Irish Times questioned have nphet got it all wrong and that pandemic may actually be over?


"We must consider nphet may be wrong"

I'm stunned by the poor quality of that article, usually what Ferriter has to say is balanced and knowledgable.

That piece is an absolute mess.

"Why didn't we have 20,000 deaths" - that was based on a prediction of uncontrolled transmission with no containment measures. He's an intelligent man, how can he not put two and two together?

"Why the changing guidelines on masks? " - has he been asleep for the last six months?

"Sweden has had no restrictions" - Yes, they have.

He even talks up the insight of "Nobel Laureate" Michael Levitt - I really couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that.

There's more than that too.

He raises the odd good point about some of the contradictions of NPHET's advice and his central argument that authority should always be subject to scrutiny is totally valid, but his scattergun approach to just throwing out badly misinformed questions or completely out of date debate points is not the way to make a convincing argument.


I like Ferriter a lot as a historian and I always find him to be an engaging and perceptive speaker when I hear him talk, but, what a car crash of an opinion piece - I actually think a good lot of us on here are more clued in and informed about what he is writing about than he is. For real.

I find it worrying in its implications for the standard of future public debate that one of Ireland's most prominent public intellectuals is putting his name to such a shapeless mish mash of hot takes.

stephenjmcd

owlbethere wrote: »

Over the past few weeks, we saw the figures swing from low to high and back down again. Eg. We would see 10/15/20 one day, we might have seen a bit of a jump to 40 or 50 or 60 cases, then it came back down again. I'm very disappointed seeing another day with high numbers. I was hoping after the other day with the 300+ for the days, we might have some days where we would have some low-ish numbers like approx 50/60/70/80. That really hasn't happened. It's a real see-saw of figures now.

As was always predicted which is why Dr Glynn amongst others have said 7 and 14 day averages more important.
Government plan to come next week also doesn't put much importance on individual days numbers appearently

wadacrack

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What restrictions do you think they could implement they can control or enforce, shut down of non essential shops, close restraunt/bars, mandatory masks in public, they haven't a lot of options legally.

Household transmission seems a problem. NEPHT have stated the Kildare, Offaly, Laois lockdown worked. So it might make sense to use similar restrictions. The potential for it grow more rapidly in a densely populated city makes the numbers even more conerning.

ixoy

wadacrack wrote: »

Would say restrictions likely now in Dublin at the weekend. The high amount of cases could jeopardize schools.

There's not been the slightest indication that schools would be in jeopardy. If anything, it's the opposite.
They've also said there'll be no new restrictions until next week when the plan is published (as I suspected). The new figures aren't probably high enough for it go earlier.

stephenjmcd

yourdeadwright wrote: »

To slow sucker there's only one Sheriff in this town :cool:
(im joking of course )

By the way whoever both your source is, cracking job their doing

drunkmonkey

Indestructable wrote: »

NPHET must be a bit annoyed the Government didn't issue their advice yesterday.
Let's be honest though reducing household gatherings to 2 extra parties from outside the home is hardly a restriction at all and those who were not following the guidelines anyway will hardly start now.

It's not legal, the Government have to be very careful. It's Grand for NPHET to come out with things as if they are mandatory, there not and implying they are is an abuse of power.
NPHET need to be taken off the air waves, Government needs to start doing its job.

Seamai

Indestructable wrote: »

NPHET must be a bit annoyed the Government didn't issue their advice yesterday.
Let's be honest though reducing household gatherings to 2 extra parties from outside the home is hardly a restriction at all and those who were not following the guidelines anyway will hardly start now.

Reducing down the groups of people visiting households from 3 to 2 is not going to make a tap of difference, what "expert" came up with that brainfart? I'm not saying that there needs to be another lockdown but there needs to be more than making that "suggestion" (because that's all it is) in order to get things under control in Dublin.

copeyhagen

amadangomor wrote: »

Any idea of how long its taking to get a test?

Rang doctor at 9am and they said expect a call in the morning and to be tested today. Still no call

you dont get a call, you just get a text. normally within a few hours of GP arranging it. test is normally the next day depending on where u live etc.

stephenjmcd

wadacrack wrote: »

Household transmission seems a problem. NEPHT have stated the Kildare, Offaly, Laois lockdown worked. So it might make sense to use similar restrictions. The potential for it grow more rapidly in a densely populated city makes the numbers even more conerning.

Those restrictions were for as has been said at the press conferences a completely different set of circumstances and wouldn't be proportional when the issue is household transmission.

Doesn't take much to look into what's being said about any Dublin or Limerick restrictions to see that they wont be going down the Kildare, Offaly and Loais route