90 day travel entry query

Route1

Hi, I'm not sure is this the right forum to post. But it has the highest footfall so thought it was good start and hopefully someone can provide some insight or guidance.

I have a query about non-permanent immigration into Ireland. A friend of mine from the US came into the country on the 12th of June. Their passport was stamped for the 5th of August. However, during that period they contacted the releavant authorities and received a general email that anyone who had a stamp between certain dates would receive a 30 day extension so in essence valid until the 5th of Septmeber.

My friend, travelled to the UK on the 3rd of September to ensure that they didn't breach their time limit in Ireland. But I have been told from a source that because of the Common Travel Area between Ireland & the UK they are considered the same juristriciton and that the 90 day limit applies as one between ireland and the Uk. However, when they were checking online prior to leaving the UK they found online that they could travel to the UK for up to 6 months without a Visa.

So we're both a little confused and stressed at the situation, if anyone can help I'd really appreicate it.

Carawaystick

I have no real idea, but if they didn't get a british stamp entering the uk, how can they prove they left Ireland

Route1

Boarding pass and transactions/recipts in the Uk I guess

cw67irl

Route1 wrote: »

Hi, I'm not sure is this the right forum to post. But it has the highest footfall so thought it was good start and hopefully someone can provide some insight or guidance.

I have a query about non-permanent immigration into Ireland. A friend of mine from the US came into the country on the 12th of June. Their passport was stamped for the 5th of August. However, during that period they contacted the releavant authorities and received a general email that anyone who had a stamp between certain dates would receive a 30 day extension so in essence valid until the 5th of Septmeber.

My friend, travelled to the UK on the 3rd of September to ensure that they didn't breach their time limit in Ireland. But I have been told from a source that because of the Common Travel Area between Ireland & the UK they are considered the same juristriciton and that the 90 day limit applies as one between ireland and the Uk. However, when they were checking online prior to leaving the UK they found online that they could travel to the UK for up to 6 months without a Visa.

So we're both a little confused and stressed at the situation, if anyone can help I'd really appreicate it.

For a non national to receive 6 months permission in the UK they must have their passport/travel document endorsed (stamped) by a UK Border Force Officer.. The UK stamp grants the holder 6 months "permission" in the UK. For someone who travels from Ireland to the UK as they routinely do not meet a UKBF officer the Irish landing stamp grants them 3 months "deemed leave" in the UK..

In short UK Stamp = 6 Month Permission
ROI Stamp = 3 Months Deemed leave in addition to whatever permission had been granted by Irish Immigration Officer..

Victor

cw67irl wrote: »

non national

Many people that this phrase is aimed at find it offensive. While there are some stateless people, the vast majority of people have a nationality. The phrase you are looking for is "non-Irish national".

cw67irl

Victor wrote: »

Many people that this phrase is aimed at find it offensive. While there are some stateless people, the vast majority of people have a nationality. The phrase you are looking for is "non-Irish national".

No offence was intended however "Non National" is the term used in the Immigration Act. That was why I used it.

Peregrinus

Victor wrote: »

Many people that this phrase is aimed at find it offensive. While there are some stateless people, the vast majority of people have a nationality. The phrase you are looking for is "non-Irish national".

In this context, it's actually "not a British citizen, not an Irish citizen and not a person otherwise having a right of abode in the UK". You can see why useful shorthand is desirable, even if it's not strictly accurate.

whomitconcerns

Your answers to the exact same question in the travel forum weren't to your liking?

https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058111945/1