You may be eligible for payment under the beef finisher payment scheme

amacca

Sold a number of cattle through mart at the start of thevdate range scheme is using

Am I eligible if they were slaughtered be next owner before the end of date range?

Is it easy to find out on aim/agfood what date animals you sold were slaughtered? How would you go about it, is there a code?

Mooooo

Log on to agfood and it will tell you if you had eligible stock

Gods Gift

Have to have been slaughtered within 30 days of sale.
Log into agfood and go to apply for the finisher scheme and it tells you how many you are eligible for payment of.

jimini0

Sent 2 to the factory this year. How much is the payment?

Aravo

jimini0 wrote: »

Sent 2 to the factory this year. How much is the payment?

scheme applies to farmers who had cattle slaughtered between February 1st and June 12th 2020. Payment of €100 per head

jimini0

Aravo wrote: »

scheme applies to farmers who had cattle slaughtered between February 1st and June 12th 2020. Payment of €100 per head

Yes I'm eligible for the 2. I see you have to be bord bia or to commit to join bord bia to qualify

Aravo

jimini0 wrote: »

Yes I'm eligible for the 2. I see you have to be bord bia or to commit to join bord bia to qualify

If you slaughter animals whether beef or lamb one should be Bord Bia approved. I'm not a big bord bia fan but in this day and age it all adds up.

jimini0

Aravo wrote: »

If you slaughter animals whether beef or lamb one should be Bord Bia approved. I'm not a big bord bia fan but in this day and age it all adds up.

I sold them to a small local abbatoir. Didnt have to be bord bia there.

amacca

jimini0 wrote: »

I sold them to a small local abbatoir. Didnt have to be bord bia there.

similar for one

sold a couple more to a farmer who then went on to slaughter within the period

ruwithme

Any word on beam 3? Base price for heifers was €3.65 on 4th February 2020. Base price today for heifers is €3.60.

hopeso

jimini0 wrote: »

I sold them to a small local abbatoir. Didnt have to be bord bia there.

I'm in the same position, only that I had more than two....I haven't applied yet as it brakes my heart to have to sign up to board bia.....
Apart from an odd cull cow, any animals I slaughter are sold to a local butcher who doesn't need board bia stock. It just sounds like a whole lot of hassle for little or no return.
I must have got about half a dozen texts from the dept. at this stage telling me I might have stock that qualify.....

jimini0

hopeso wrote: »

I'm in the same position, only that I had more than two....I haven't applied yet as it brakes my heart to have to sign up to board bia.....
Apart from an odd cull cow, any animals I slaughter are sold to a local butcher who doesn't need board bia stock. It just sounds like a whole lot of hassle for little or no return.
I must have got about half a dozen texts from the dept. at this stage telling me I might have stock that qualify.....

Ya I wont be applying. 200 euro not worth it. Plus having to go bord bia. Only had 2 this year cos of an accident and a heifer not goin in calf. Might not have stock to kill for another 10 years

20silkcut

ruwithme wrote: »

Any word on beam 3? Base price for heifers was €3.65 on 4th February 2020. Base price today for heifers is €3.60.

What will it be in January if Boris Johnson blows up the U.K. economy?

We’ll be looking for a compensation scheme at that stage.

Maybe should join bord bia now. Make sure your in some Decent position to Pick up what scraps may be left.

jntsnk

If it’s not fully subscribed, will there be more per head then ?

Base price

Just a reminder to those who have eligible animals for the Beef Finisher Payment Scheme that the closing date is tomorrow Wednesday the 9th. The IFA have an easy to follow guide to help people apply.

https://www.ifa.ie/sectors/cattle/beef-finisher-payment-scheme-how-to-apply/

hopeso

Base price wrote: »

Just a reminder to those who have eligible animals for the Beef Finisher Payment Scheme that the closing date is tomorrow Wednesday the 9th. The IFA have an easy to follow guide to help people apply.

https://www.ifa.ie/sectors/cattle/beef-finisher-payment-scheme-how-to-apply/

That was a very useful, and much needed guide...... Why is everything on the ag food website so needlessly difficult to navigate?
Is there an easy to follow guide to joining board bia anywhere now? :(:(

hopeso

Any sign of payment from the beef finisher payment scheme yet? I think it was promised in November

whelan2

It says claim complete on agfood on 11/11/20

Cavanjack

whelan2 wrote: »

It says claim complete on agfood on 11/11/20

Same date on mine.

whelan2

Showing up in amounts due now on financial services

jfh

whelan2 wrote: »

Showing up in amounts due now on financial services

Same, nice little surprise, I sold 7 at home , didn't think that were near finished, just 22 months sold at the start of lock down, my planner spotted it for me

Jb1989

hopeso wrote: »

Any sign of payment from the beef finisher payment scheme yet? I think it was promised in November

In now

Attie Ross

Down for payment today but no money in bank yet.

hopeso

whelan2 wrote: »

Showing up in amounts due now on financial services

Mine is too...:)
Looks like we aren't getting anything extra. I read somewhere that the scheme was under subscribed....

whelan2

hopeso wrote: »

Mine is too...:)
Looks like we aren't getting anything extra. I read somewhere that the scheme was under subscribed....

I'm sure the extra money will go to a good cause :cool:

whelan2

Jjameson wrote: »

Why on earth is it undersubscribed? Did lads not apply?

I'd say people thought they weren't eligible. I didn't think I was. It was dairy culls I claimed on

amacca

Jjameson wrote: »

Why on earth is it undersubscribed? Did lads not apply?

was there a requirement to reduce stock levels or something too........lot of lads wouldnt like that kind of meddling

in some cases there might be low dough involved......not worth hassle

in my own case I sold a lot of animals through mart, they werent killed in the required number of days so I had to take the hit on those ...claim on the couple I could etc

in other cases there could be elderly people not able to or thinking they are not able to claim it through agfood

then the usual percentage that plain forgot, made a balls of application, had some other aspect of life or a tradgedy intervene etc etc

Jb1989

amacca wrote: »

was there a requirement to reduce stock levels or something too........lot of lads wouldnt like that kind of meddling

in some cases there might be low dough involved......not worth hassle

in my own case I sold a lot of animals through mart, they werent killed in the required number of days so I had to take the hit on those ...claim on the couple I could etc

in other cases there could be elderly people not able to or thinking they are not able to claim it through agfood

then the usual percentage that plain forgot, made a balls of application, had some other aspect of life or a tradgedy intervene etc etc

No, no action was required, just accept the money.

Bass Reeves

Jjameson wrote: »

Why on earth is it undersubscribed? Did lads not apply?

Lads need to be spoon fed. With the department no longer writing out to lads and with COVID Teagasc were not able to hold lads hands. As well there is a lot of finished cattle sold through the marts. Lads not realising that it not the same as the BEAM scheme and that there was no conditions. Lads that had only one or two cattle forgot to apply.

Had eleven in the frame it a nice touch it in financial services and got the text so it will be in the bank in the morning. Only one thing wrong no pub to go for a few pints to celebrate

ruwithme

Did they not die in debt with base price of €3:45 akg or was it even less at the time.

Surely holes other than the wattering hole for filling with it.

Maybe the fact that some didn't put their hand up for it,tells another story?other monies are heavily at play in beef for some,hence their backs aren't to the wall with negative price.

tanko

It's not true to say that there was no conditions.
You had to be Quality Assured or become QA to get the Beef Finisher money so this ruled out many farmers. This wasn't a requirement for the BEAM scheme.
I was eligible to get paid on two animals, i didn't forget to apply, it just didn't suit me as i'm not QA.

whelan2

I got it on 10 culls I sent to the factory. A nice bonus coming up to Christmas

Bass Reeves

ruwithme wrote: »

Did they not die in debt with base price of €3:45 akg or was it even less at the time.

Surely holes other than the wattering hole for filling with it.

Maybe the fact that some didn't put their hand up for it,tells another story?other monies are heavily at play in beef for some,hence their backs aren't to the wall with negative price.

No base was 3.65 for the one slaughtered on 2nd of March, six slaughtered in late May at 3.6/kg, these were under a bit of pressure as I was struggling with the drough and had to lighten the load most were only FS2+ but the hundred euro took away all that pain. Slaughtered 4 the 11th of June @ 1195 average that came in at 550 average, so they definately did not need the top up.

Average store last year cost 575 euro, I am averaging above 1200 at slaughter. Grading was okish on Friesians until mid October. Gone to sh!te over the last month but the same base has softened that blow. Average store coming in cost 605 euro this year. Buying cattle that need time. Had 70 for slaughter this year over 50 gone and what is left can wait they are inside on silage and 6kgs of ration. Mostly over 30 months friesians. Only bought 60 replacement stores as 70 was really pushing the boat out. Hitting over 170 kgs N/HA so I exported a bit of slurry.

So beer money

Bass Reeves

tanko wrote: »

It's not true to say that there was no conditions.
You had to be Quality Assured or become QA to get the Beef Finisher money so this ruled out many farmers. This wasn't a requirement for the BEAM scheme.
I was eligible to get paid on two animals, i didn't forget to apply, it just didn't suit me as i'm not QA.

QA is a gimme first time. Ya might be a bit if hassle for one or two but 3.5 million not drawn down and if all cattle that were slaughtered has been paid on the amount (100euro) would have been reduced. 30-50k cattle were not applied on or 7-10% of stock in the frame

dryan

Showing up on Financial Services here too.. Not too bad for the click of a few buttons!!

Donald Trump

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Lads need to be spoon fed. With the department no longer writing out to lads and with COVID Teagasc were not able to hold lads hands. As well there is a lot of finished cattle sold through the marts. Lads not realising that it not the same as the BEAM scheme and that there was no conditions. Lads that had only one or two cattle forgot to apply.

Had eleven in the frame it a nice touch it in financial services and got the text so it will be in the bank in the morning. Only one thing wrong no pub to go for a few pints to celebrate

It was very simple to log on and click the buttons 2 or 3 times and press submit. But that's for people on here who are, by definition, used to the internet.


There are still plenty of people out there who know nothing about computers. You can't blame fellas in their 50's or 60's really (or older)

Bass Reeves

Donald Trump wrote: »

It was very simple to log on and click the buttons 2 or 3 times and press submit. But that's for people on here who are, by definition, used to the internet.


There are still plenty of people out there who know nothing about computers. You can't blame fellas in their 50's or 60's really (or older)

It not rocket science either. Most lads in there 50&60's have smart phones now's. It a matter of getting used to it. Lately heard a story of a lads that was a COVID close contact,he was complaining about not getting tested fast enough, however the same lad would never answer s call on the phone from a number he did not know and that is what happened it seems

Donald Trump

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It not rocket science either. Most lads in there 50&60's have smart phones now's. It a matter of getting used to it. Lately heard a story of a lads that was a COVID close contact,he was complaining about not getting tested fast enough, however the same lad would never answer s call on the phone from a number he did not know and that is what happened it seems

Were there phone calls? I don't know if there were. I saw about the scheme online and I filled it out for here. I don't know if it would have been done otherwise.



There are plenty out there with no smartphones. 55% of farm owners over the age of 55 and 30% over the age of 65 as of the last census in 2016. Plenty won't know how to do those things but are lucky to have family who will. But some don't have family or don't have ones who will help. It's not fair to brush it off as "not rocket science". It is easy ..... if you are used to these things.

whelan2

Teagasc man rang me about the scheme for me and my dad, I had already applied. My dad wasnt eligible

mahoney_j

Had 6 ainmals eligible proably the easiest 600’i picked up all year for cull cows sold out of yard

Donald Trump

whelan2 wrote: »

Teagasc man rang me about the scheme for me and my dad, I had already applied. My dad wasnt eligible

You might have a better Teagasc man . If any communication is sent here it is usually initiated as a text in the form "Reminder. Deadline for XYZ is 31st Dec". I don't know if something was sent for this scheme because it wouldn't come to me but if it was, I was never told.



I'm sure some of it was laziness or sloppiness on the part of the farmer for some of the cases. There would be a few who the online aspect just didn't suit though.



I was actually amazed at the simplicity of the process when I did it here. I was expecting a big rigmarole the same as any other time I filled out anything or applied for something. If someone isn't comfortable with using the internet and basic technology I could imagine how they might easily decide that 2 or 300 isn't worth the hassle. Now it wasn't any hassle but they wouldn't know that until they logged in (or unless someone convinced them).



They might have thought that if it was only a couple of hundred Euro that the Teagasc man might charge them the most of it for doing it

tismesoitis

Its in the account now.
Same as Whelan here.. Teagasc man rang to see did i apply. I yold him i was'nt eligible as i had'nd factoried anything. He insisted on checking only to discover i was good for 8 culls sold in the mart. Happy days

alps

Does it cost money to get or be bord Bia approved?

Jb1989

alps wrote: »

Does it cost money to get or be bord Bia approved?

No Money to be paid direct, just on their conditions of the scheme which you may not have already, few signs for yard, rat bait points, medicine cabinet, small outgoings like that.