Ireland football team and taxpayers money

Sweet.Science

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Edgware

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

With only 7/8 other countries playing rugby to a good standard we still cant get past a quarter final in the World Cup so we would get more value flushing the money down the toilet

you could say the same thing on RTE

JasonStatham

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Maybe should make it amateur. Like Iceland.

Allinall

What is the point in using taxpayers money to fund rugby. They can win things anyway.

We should be using the money to support soccer.

NIMAN

I don't think sports are funded to win things.

Mr_Muffin

It's the taking part that counts.

OP you could always work out what % of the tax take you contribute

then work out what % of that amount goes on soccer

im sure someone here can organise a whipround to refund you the five cents or whatever

Man with broke phone

We need to sell Irish football better and stop making it as cool as a 1980s shiney tracksuit.

We need teams to play ball instead of kicking each other and lamping the ball towards the corner flags.

We need family friendly atmospheres and not a load of scrotes in tracksuits threatening each other.

We need to see the teams out in the community doing work for the community and gaining the respect of the community. I have shelbourne up one end of my area and fingal up the other end and if they are doing any good for anyone nobody is telling me. The English clubs are ending child poverty and visiting kids with all sorts of diseases and I dont see the Irish clubs anywhere.

They cant just sit back and cry that all the talent goes to England. If your marketing man walks around in a club tracksuit with a smoke hanging out of his mouth and a few raffle tickets to sell you need to up your game.

They need to build their teams around players with the x factor and make stars of them. Stars put bums on seats not tough tackling and red cards.

A decent coffee in the stadium and maybe some nice food wouldnt go a miss either. The days of curry chips and an aul wan putting instant coffee in a white styro cup for a euro are over.

It wont happen though, too many lads making a few quid for doing very little for years, put in roles they have no business doing because they sell their share of raffle tickets.

People still walking around looking like Charlie Burgess.

Sweet.Science

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Utter boll0cks post. Firstly, Stephen Kenny has had two games in charge ffs.
Secondly, investment in grassroots sport is extremely important to any population. if people only took up sports on the basis that we are only in it for trophies, then we may all place our arses on the couch now and give up. Sport is much more than winning. its nice to win, but its fantastic to participate. Surely the pandemic has thought us the importance of sport and we took it for granted up to now? The government investment in football is miniscule by comparison.

People die....Should we put anything into hospitals?

Richard Hillman

They get about 2k each per game. (traditionally donated back to charity). Then there are team expenses, hotels, flights etc. The team pay for themselves via TV money and attendances

Quantum Erasure

JasonStatham wrote: »

Maybe should make it amateur. Like Iceland.

They looked fairly amateur tonight, wha?

touts

The GAA get money thrown at it like confetti and the scots still regularly beat them at international rules hurling/shinty

What is needed is a united approach to state support for sport. No more building 4 or 5 half arsed facilities in town each for the exclusive use of one sport. Instead build one facility for all. No more stadiums or training pitches etc unless at least three sports are applying together and it's open to all sports to use the facilities.

Fr Tod Umptious

Man with broke phone wrote: »

We need to sell Irish football better and stop making it as cool as a 1980s shiney tracksuit.

We need teams to play ball instead of kicking each other and lamping the ball towards the corner flags.

We need family friendly atmospheres and not a load of scrotes in tracksuits threatening each other.

We need to see the teams out in the community doing work for the community and gaining the respect of the community. I have shelbourne up one end of my area and fingal up the other end and if they are doing any good for anyone nobody is telling me. The English clubs are ending child poverty and visiting kids with all sorts of diseases and I dont see the Irish clubs anywhere.

They cant just sit back and cry that all the talent goes to England. If your marketing man walks around in a club tracksuit with a smoke hanging out of his mouth and a few raffle tickets to sell you need to up your game.

They need to build their teams around players with the x factor and make stars of them. Stars put bums on seats not tough tackling and red cards.

A decent coffee in the stadium and maybe some nice food wouldnt go a miss either. The days of curry chips and an aul wan putting instant coffee in a white styro cup for a euro are over.

It wont happen though, too many lads making a few quid for doing very little for years, put in roles they have no business doing because they sell their share of raffle tickets.

People still walking around looking like Charlie Burgess.

Who the fcuk is Charlie Burgess ?

Does he have a better known brother Georgie ?

John Doe1

So removing all money from the most popular sport in the country in terms of actual people playing it to a minority sport played in about 5 schools (where the national team that has completely underwhelmed on the world stage) is the answer?

Why not give the money to tiddlywinks instead?

Dr. Bre

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Well done and a nice try but your on the wind up

CBear1993

touts wrote: »

The GAA get money thrown at it like confetti and the scots still regularly beat them at international rules hurling/shinty

What is needed is a united approach to state support for sport. No more building 4 or 5 half arsed facilities in town each for the exclusive use of one sport. Instead build one facility for all. No more stadiums or training pitches etc unless at least three sports are applying together and it's open to all sports to use the facilities.

Lol what even was that. GAA / shinty/hurling

GAA isn’t competed at international level unlike soccer and rugby. Can not compare.

DangerScouse

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Rugby isnt a real sport, its like baseball. Also how **** are Ireland at it ffs. Played by a handful of nations and we still can't get to a World Cup final.

Now that's embarrassing

Mysterypunter

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

I was completely in agreement until the last sentence, rugby is a joke sport played by steroid abusing goons, our national team has never passed the quarter finals, so on that basis rugby and soccer are equal, of course we should give taxpayers money to rugby teams, Sean O'Brien needs more drink, he hasn't pissed on anyone in a pub in ages.

The Lost Sheep

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Why does funding have to result in success at international stage.

Edgware wrote: »

With only 7/8 other countries playing rugby to a good standard we still cant get past a quarter final in the World Cup so we would get more value flushing the money down the toilet

What are the 7/8 countries and what exactly is a good standard?

Man with broke phone wrote: »

We need to sell Irish football better and stop making it as cool as a 1980s shiney tracksuit.

We need teams to play ball instead of kicking each other and lamping the ball towards the corner flags.

We need family friendly atmospheres and not a load of scrotes in tracksuits threatening each other.

We need to see the teams out in the community doing work for the community and gaining the respect of the community. I have shelbourne up one end of my area and fingal up the other end and if they are doing any good for anyone nobody is telling me. The English clubs are ending child poverty and visiting kids with all sorts of diseases and I dont see the Irish clubs anywhere.

They cant just sit back and cry that all the talent goes to England. If your marketing man walks around in a club tracksuit with a smoke hanging out of his mouth and a few raffle tickets to sell you need to up your game.

They need to build their teams around players with the x factor and make stars of them. Stars put bums on seats not tough tackling and red cards.

A decent coffee in the stadium and maybe some nice food wouldnt go a miss either. The days of curry chips and an aul wan putting instant coffee in a white styro cup for a euro are over.

It wont happen though, too many lads making a few quid for doing very little for years, put in roles they have no business doing because they sell their share of raffle tickets.

People still walking around looking like Charlie Burgess.

What money do these clubs have to spend on all these social issues?

touts wrote: »

The GAA get money thrown at it like confetti and the scots still regularly beat them at international rules hurling/shinty

What is needed is a united approach to state support for sport. No more building 4 or 5 half arsed facilities in town each for the exclusive use of one sport. Instead build one facility for all. No more stadiums or training pitches etc unless at least three sports are applying together and it's open to all sports to use the facilities.

the shinty team doesnt pick many if any players from liam mc carthy sides if they did theyd win easil.y
there does need to be a united approach for facilities but how do you share usage when there is so many soccer, gaa clubs in areas?

John Doe1 wrote: »

So removing all money from the most popular sport in the country in terms of actual people playing it to a minority sport played in about 5 schools (where the national team that has completely underwhelmed on the world stage) is the answer?

Why not give the money to tiddlywinks instead?

All sports are minority compared to the biggest. Rugby is one of the biggest team sports and is being played in more and more schools year on year and club underage game is also expanding every year..

ChikiChiki

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

A huge reason the national team are so poor is that Delaney has pillaged a lot of resources over the years. Money that should have been set aside for development was siphoned off into insane wages and all the other shenanigans.

This is becoming very evident at the moment and we are going through a bleak period.

The GAA has been a better governed organisation and transparent about spending so any taxpayer funds are justified. Delaney and the FAI board threw a couple of crumbs to the Kerry Football league whilst pillaging multiple times more and you have the Healy Raes and the other local gob****e praising them.

The Delaney model, open a pitch here or there affiliated with a senior local rep and let them do his dirty work in the region.

WesternZulu

touts wrote: »

The GAA get money thrown at it like confetti and the scots still regularly beat them at international rules hurling/shinty

What utter ****e, the reason that the hurling team doesn't win every time they play Scotland is because the GAA don't pick their strongest 15, instead selecting lesser known players.

If the GAA chose an All-Star team to compete then Ireland would destroy the Scots every single time.

Back to the argument - there should be more money put into domestic soccer. We should have a league comparable to Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Norway, and even Scotland. The FAI have neglected the LOI for decades, its disgraceful! For too long they expected England to develop our players and provide us with talent from long lost Grannies.

Sweet.Science

John Doe1 wrote: »

So removing all money from the most popular sport in the country in terms of actual people playing it to a minority sport played in about 5 schools (where the national team that has completely underwhelmed on the world stage) is the answer?

Why not give the money to tiddlywinks instead?

Soccer is becoming increasingly unpopular in ireland. Hard to keep it going with an awful national side and terrible national league

dundalkfc10

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Soccer is becoming increasingly unpopular in ireland. Hard to keep it going with an awful national side and terrible national league

Yet the participation at all levels in soccer is increasing every year

fitzparker

Man with broke phone wrote: »

We need to sell Irish football better and stop making it as cool as a 1980s shiney tracksuit.

We need teams to play ball instead of kicking each other and lamping the ball towards the corner flags.

We need family friendly atmospheres and not a load of scrotes in tracksuits threatening each other.

We need to see the teams out in the community doing work for the community and gaining the respect of the community. I have shelbourne up one end of my area and fingal up the other end and if they are doing any good for anyone nobody is telling me. The English clubs are ending child poverty and visiting kids with all sorts of diseases and I dont see the Irish clubs anywhere.

They cant just sit back and cry that all the talent goes to England. If your marketing man walks around in a club tracksuit with a smoke hanging out of his mouth and a few raffle tickets to sell you need to up your game.

They need to build their teams around players with the x factor and make stars of them. Stars put bums on seats not tough tackling and red cards.

A decent coffee in the stadium and maybe some nice food wouldnt go a miss either. The days of curry chips and an aul wan putting instant coffee in a white styro cup for a euro are over.

It wont happen though, too many lads making a few quid for doing very little for years, put in roles they have no business doing because they sell their share of raffle tickets.

People still walking around looking like Charlie Burgess.

Relax there Fintan, Sporting Fingal are finished 10 years and who is Charlie Burgess.

Seems like you just wrote this up as a rugby fan trying to be funny but it was dirt.

Unlucky

Man with broke phone

fitzparker wrote: »

Relax there Fintan, Sporting Fingal are finished 10 years and who is Charlie Burgess.

Seems like you just wrote this up as a rugby fan trying to be funny but it was dirt.

Unlucky

Im an english football fan and make no apologies for it. I gave my time and money to shelbourne for a while and sitting there shivering one evening watching the ball being punted to the corner flag decided enough was enough. A few years later I tried to bring my son who was about 11 and he just wanted it to be over after ten minutes. He wanted to go home at half time when I asked him if he wanted chips. No stars, no skills no good food.

LiquidZeb

JasonStatham wrote: »

Maybe should make it amateur. Like Iceland.

It's amateur in all but name so it'd be a good call.

Edgware

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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Who the fcuk is Charlie Burgess ?

Does he have a better known brother Georgie ?

What has Cathal Brugha got to do with it?

SlowMotion321

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

It's the taking part that counts.

That's what we tell losers! Oh wait..........

dundalkfc10

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Im an english football fan and make no apologies for it. I gave my time and money to shelbourne for a while and sitting there shivering one evening watching the ball being punted to the corner flag decided enough was enough. A few years later I tried to bring my son who was about 11 and he just wanted it to be over after ten minutes. He wanted to go home at half time when I asked him if he wanted chips. No stars, no skills no good food.

You prefer sitting at home watching teams play on tele in comfort than actually attending games.
I've been to numerous grounds in England aswell as Ireland and you would freeze to death in half of them.

The difference between you and someone like me is I enjoy the atmosphere around a day at the football, you like your TV or Local Bar

P.S The food you get served at a football game in UK is terrible

Man with broke phone

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

You prefer sitting at home watching teams play on tele in comfort.
I've been to numerous grounds in England aswell as Ireland and you would freeze to death in half of them.

The difference between you and someone like me is I enjoy the atmosphere around a day at the football, you like your TV or Local Bar

You might think that but I wouldnt watch irish soccer on the telly either.

OMM 0000

Sport is very important.

There is incredible prestige attached to being good at sports.

Brazil, which is a poor country, has a bit of esteem due to their sporting ability (soccer and MMA).

Tax payer money cannot just be used for roads, hospitals, etc. It needs to also go towards "soft" things like sport, culture, art, etc.

I agree with your general point that we will never win anything.

Edgware

A far cry from small kids in the park, jumpers for goalposts

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Sweet.Science wrote: »

What is the point in the continued funding of our national football team with taxpayers money

We will never ever win anything . The national league is a joke

All our money should go into rugby

Most national teams will never win anything. If that’s the criterion for funding...

dundalkfc10

Man with broke phone wrote: »

You might think that but I wouldnt watch irish soccer on the telly either.

No you watch English football and maybe go over a few times a year with the thousands of others

Imagine that money was kept in Irish football,

Fr Tod Umptious

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

No you watch English football and maybe go over a few times a year with the thousands of others

Imagine that money was kept in Irish football,

Probably squander it like they usually do
And any goodwill that goes with it.

dundalkfc10

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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Probably squander it like they usually do
And any goodwill that goes with it.

They all waste money like GAA clubs crying poverty all round the country, selling lotto tickets, fundraisers saying they really need the cash while paying managers/trainers upto €100 cash in hand to take training session.

Sweet.Science

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

They all waste money like GAA clubs crying poverty all round the country, selling lotto tickets, fundraisers saying they really need the cash while paying managers/trainers upto €100 cash in hand to take training session.

Whataboutery

Huge waste of money

Nobody has an interest in it . The national team rarely sell out the Aviva and the national league is Micky mouse who's fan hate everything and everyone . Thank god it will be non existent in a few years

Omackeral

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Whataboutery

Huge waste of money

Nobody has an interest in it .

Just on football in general; When the Irish National football team gets to a World Cup the country pretty much stops. The rugby team getting there is just a bandwagon where a minority care, the media luvvies hype it up and the rest pretend to care.

dundalkfc10

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Whataboutery

Huge waste of money

Nobody has an interest in it . The national team rarely sell out the Aviva and the national league is Micky mouse who's fan hate everything and everyone . Thank god it will be non existent in a few years

Dont think a sport that more kids play than any other will be non existent in a few years

Have a day off man

Sweet.Science

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Dont think a sport that more kids play than any other will be non existent in a few years

Have a day off man

Maybe 10 / 20 years ago

Sweet.Science

Omackeral wrote: »

Just on football in general; When the Irish National football team gets to a World Cup the country pretty much stops. The rugby team getting there is just a bandwagon where a minority care, the media luvvies hype it up and the rest pretend to care.

I agree on rugby . I disagree on football . Maybe in the 90s . The euros didn't really capture the imagination at all .

dundalkfc10

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I agree on rugby . I disagree on football . Maybe in the 90s . The euros didn't really capture the imagination at all .

More people watched the Euros on TV in Ireland than the Rugby World Cup

If the Euros didn't capture the imagination it dosnt look well for Rugby as the World Cup had less viewers on Irish TV

weldoninhio

Man with broke phone wrote: »

We need to sell Irish football better and stop making it as cool as a 1980s shiney tracksuit.

We need teams to play ball instead of kicking each other and lamping the ball towards the corner flags.

We need family friendly atmospheres and not a load of scrotes in tracksuits threatening each other.

We need to see the teams out in the community doing work for the community and gaining the respect of the community. I have shelbourne up one end of my area and fingal up the other end and if they are doing any good for anyone nobody is telling me. The English clubs are ending child poverty and visiting kids with all sorts of diseases and I dont see the Irish clubs anywhere.

They cant just sit back and cry that all the talent goes to England. If your marketing man walks around in a club tracksuit with a smoke hanging out of his mouth and a few raffle tickets to sell you need to up your game.

They need to build their teams around players with the x factor and make stars of them. Stars put bums on seats not tough tackling and red cards.

A decent coffee in the stadium and maybe some nice food wouldnt go a miss either. The days of curry chips and an aul wan putting instant coffee in a white styro cup for a euro are over.

It wont happen though, too many lads making a few quid for doing very little for years, put in roles they have no business doing because they sell their share of raffle tickets.

People still walking around looking like Charlie Burgess.

Sporting Fingal went bust about 20 years ago mate. I’d be worried if you were hearing about their players still hanging about doing good in the community.

Omackeral

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I agree on rugby . I disagree on football . Maybe in the 90s . The euros didn't really capture the imagination at all .

That's why I mentioned the World Cup specifically. It's night and day between Football World Cup and Rugby World Cup. If we qualify for the next one, you'll see it yourself.

Muahahaha

If Irish football got the same annual funding of 16 million that the greyhound industry do then we'd be in a good place.

Look how tiny Iceland (population 300,000) have done in football in the last decade. They hired a few hundred UEFA B license coaches to teach kids how to play and now they're reaping the rewards. Most of their best players are playing in Europes top leagues and they are competitive internationally. They went from a world ranking of 139th in 2012 to 18th in 2018.

Superfoods

If we decided in the 90 to dump rugby and just support soccer look what state we would be in now

All sports have up/downs etc

Edgware

Muahahaha wrote: »

If Irish football got the same annual funding of 16 million that the greyhound industry do then we'd be in a good place.

Look how tiny Iceland (population 300,000) have done in football in the last decade. They hired a few hundred UEFA B license coaches to teach kids how to play and now they're reaping the rewards. Most of their best players are playing in Europes top leagues and they are competitive internationally. They went from a world ranking of 139th in 2012 to 18th in 2018.

And opened a chain of shops

Superfoods

Muahahaha wrote: »

If Irish football got the same annual funding of 16 million that the greyhound industry do then we'd be in a good place.

Look how tiny Iceland (population 300,000) have done in football in the last decade. They hired a few hundred UEFA B license coaches to teach kids how to play and now they're reaping the rewards. Most of their best players are playing in Europes top leagues and they are competitive internationally. They went from a world ranking of 139th in 2012 to 18th in 2018.

You had more money to FAI and it wouldn’t be spent on players/coach’s. They are corrupt as hell and it would be given to pay a load of useless wan***s on the board

Meathman12

OMM 0000 wrote: »

Brazil, which is a poor country, has a bit of esteem due to their sporting ability (soccer and MMA).

Tax payer money cannot just be used for roads, hospitals, etc. It needs to also go towards "soft" things like sport, culture, art, etc.

I'd love to see the return on investment for sports.
Well funded sports sector might
Improve general and mental health health thus reducing impact on health services.
Improve crime rates ( youth with more focus, more facilities and less idle time).

Maybe I'm wrong.