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Drink driving summons

  • 06-09-2020 3:31pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭


    Hi, sorry dont know if i can post here but im enquiring for a close friend who unfortunately made the stupid, wreck less, selfish and dangerous decision while intoxicated to drive home drunk from his family members house back in May 2020. He reckons he figured he'd be OK as his home was a ten minute drive in the sticks but ended up getting caught by gardai. He's paid for it big time as he's lost his job etc.. Before everyone going on about what might have happened he's already aware and knows too well as his cousin was killed by a drunk driver. He truthfully never took this chance before and it was a case of getting home as he had to let a friend in the next morning...no excuses though.. Anyway to cut a long story short gardai said the summons would be out soon he still hasn't received anything and is eager to get it out of the way as its sent him into a depression and wants to try and move on. My question is..is there a hold up with the district courts due to covid or do these summonses usually take months to arrive? I agree it was an asshole thing for him to do and he was lucky no one got killed but I feel his depression is getting serious and would like this thing to be over for him.. He hasn't touched a drink since..and I keep telling him how lucky he is but its just getting dragged out. Do the gardai do this on purpose


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    do the gardai purposely hold up drink driving prosecutions in order to depress your close friend ?

    no

    there is a delay because of covid and access to courts

    get a solicitor


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    At least this reckless act was wreck less.

    I'll get my coat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭wush06


    Trans Ann wrote: »
    Hi, sorry dont know if i can post here but im enquiring for a close friend who unfortunately made the stupid, wreck less, selfish and dangerous decision while intoxicated to drive home drunk from his family members house back in May 2020. He reckons he figured he'd be OK as his home was a ten minute drive in the sticks but ended up getting caught by gardai. He's paid for it big time as he's lost his job etc.. Before everyone going on about what might have happened he's already aware and knows too well as his cousin was killed by a drunk driver. He truthfully never took this chance before and it was a case of getting home as he had to let a friend in the next morning...no excuses though.. Anyway to cut a long story short gardai said the summons would be out soon he still hasn't received anything and is eager to get it out of the way as its sent him into a depression and wants to try and move on. My question is..is there a hold up with the district courts due to covid or do these summonses usually take months to arrive? I agree it was an asshole thing for him to do and he was lucky no one got killed but I feel his depression is getting serious and would like this thing to be over for him.. He hasn't touched a drink since..and I keep telling him how lucky he is but its just getting dragged out. Do the gardai do this on purpose

    Good I’m glad he feels **** and hopefully the full arm of the law will apply the fact his cousin was killed by a drink driver winds me right up..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭Brand_New


    I believe the Garda has 6 months to apply to the district court to issue a summons.
    Yes there are very long delays right now due to COVID but it will still have to be issued within 6 months.

    Out of interest how did he lose his job before being summoned to court? Even if found guilty a judge can delay the date the driving ban starts to allow someone to get their affairs in order.


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭wush06


    Feck it let me add a bit more hope he gets 12 months minimum.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭Eleven Benevolent Elephants


    Just over a month to go.

    If your friend is lucky the summons will reach the 6 month statute of limitations.

    He's learnt his lesson (I hope).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Cork_Guest


    Just over a month to go.

    If your friend is lucky the summons will reach the 6 month statute of limitations.

    He's learnt his lesson (I hope).

    Sorry what? Nah no way, no excuse for drink driving at all! He could have just stayed where he was and got up early to let his mate in! It’s all ok this time cos he didn’t mow someone down and some poor family have to lose a loved one, especially having lost a cousin in the same way!

    The depression is the least deserved for taking a stupid chance with such serious consequences!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Just over a month to go.

    If your friend is lucky the summons will reach the 6 month statute of limitations.

    He's learnt his lesson (I hope).

    Agree. Surely 6 months won't be up until some time in November?


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    Brand_New wrote: »
    I believe the Garda has 6 months to apply to the district court to issue a summons.
    Yes there are very long delays right now due to COVID but it will still have to be issued within 6 months.

    Out of interest how did he lose his job before being summoned to court? Even if found guilty a judge can delay the date the driving ban starts to allow someone to get their affairs in order.

    I think he admitted it to the manager and he was told because he will lose his licence he won't be able to work there, so I think it was more he walked and thought what's the point as oppose to being fired.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Cork_Guest wrote: »
    Sorry what? Nah no way, no excuse for drink driving at all! He could have just stayed where he was and got up early to let his mate in! It’s all ok this time cos he didn’t mow someone down and some poor family have to lose a loved one, especially having lost a cousin in the same way!

    The depression is the least deserved for taking a stupid chance with such serious consequences!

    Fair enough but saying he deserves depression? Bit cold hearted.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    Agree. Surely 6 months won't be up until some time in November?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Fair enough but saying he deserves depression? Bit cold hearted.

    So is drink driving.

    Karma


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    Fair enough but saying he deserves depression? Bit cold hearted.

    Totally understand what you're saying I guess he thought he was fit enough to drive. Can't make proper judgements when you're drunk though. Thank god he didn't kill someone he's aware of all this. Just curious on the delay moving forward.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Cork_Guest


    Fair enough but saying he deserves depression? Bit cold hearted.

    Drink driving is cold hearted, in fact it’s no hearted! The ramifications of doing it are serious and far reaching! Too many incidents happen everyday with sober people, purposely impairing your ability is a disgrace!

    Sorry if anyone thinks my opinion is cold hearted but it boils my pee, and to then whinge it’s taking too long to get it over with...boo boo! It would take even longer for someone to get over their loss had he killed someone. Can’t do the time don’t do the crime, and that’s what he is.....a criminal!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    wush06 wrote: »
    Feck it let me add a bit more hope he gets 12 months minimum.

    As much as i agree with you. Im sure everyone has made stupid mistakes in their life. He was irresponsible yes but he didn't kill anyone with his wreckless actions. Im not backing the fella out but he knows he fuuked up. Would you say the same to someone who was caught for speeding? Probably not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Trans Ann wrote: »
    Thanks.

    Even then they only have to applied for it rather than actually served it. Best to speak to the GP sooner rather than later re the depression.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    do the gardai purposely hold up drink driving prosecutions in order to depress your close friend ?

    no

    there is a delay because of covid and access to courts

    get a solicitor

    I know its a weird thing to ask..but I don't know anything about this area so just thought I'd ask that. Yeah I told him was probably down to Covid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    The Gardaí have 6 months to apply for the summons to the DPP not to issue it. There's not a hope of them waiting that long.

    Also, this wasn't his first time drink driving. He's done it before. First time to be caught.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    As much as i agree with you. Im sure everyone has made stupid mistakes in their life. He was irresponsible yes but he didn't kill anyone with his wreckless actions. Im not backing the fella out but he knows he fuuked up. Would you say the same to someone who was caught for speeding? Probably not.

    Ye like truthfully he's usually a decent lad said he would even gladly do time for it, he's kicking himself. The wait is making it worse I think he just wants it to be all over. Feel awful for him even though I've no sympathy for who he was driving home that night. He family have disowned him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭wush06


    As much as i agree with you. Im sure everyone has made stupid mistakes in their life. He was irresponsible yes but he didn't kill anyone with his wreckless actions. Im not backing the fella out but he knows he fuuked up. Would you say the same to someone who was caught for speeding? Probably not.

    Hopefully you get to serve the 12 months with him.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    Lundstram wrote: »
    The Gardaí have 6 months to apply for the summons to the DPP not to issue it. There's not a hope of them waiting that long.

    Also, this wasn't his first time drink driving. He's done it before. First time to be caught.

    Actually was his first time, that's what's fecked up about it I know him pretty well ..he drinks about once every two months his wife usually drives him around if he goes out as she doesn't drink. He's been a front line worker throughout the Covid ...just a stupid stupid mistake. He's a straight up guy usually. Just goes to show no ones perfect.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Trans Ann wrote: »
    Ye like truthfully he's usually a decent lad said he would even gladly do time for it, he's kicking himself. The wait is making it worse I think he just wants it to be all over. Feel awful for him even though I've no sympathy for who he was driving home that night. He family have disowned him.

    He's not going to do time for it. It's a ban and he'll come out the other side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 68 ✭✭Brand_New


    He will just have to wait until November to see if he gets a summons.

    He could try to contact the Garda involved but that's a bad idea as it might remind him to apply for a summons.
    Either way he only has to wait another 2 months to see what happens.

    I wouldn't engage with other posters on the morality of all this, all you wanted is legal advice and have received it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭daveville30


    **** happens everyone's done it even unintentionally next day.get a good solicitor on his case when the summons comes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4 Unstoppable20


    Cork_Guest wrote: »
    Drink driving is cold hearted, in fact it’s no hearted! The ramifications of doing it are serious and far reaching! Too many incidents happen everyday with sober people, purposely impairing your ability is a disgrace!

    Sorry if anyone thinks my opinion is cold hearted but it boils my pee, and to then whinge it’s taking too long to get it over with...boo boo! It would take even longer for someone to get over their loss had he killed someone. Can’t do the time don’t do the crime, and that’s what he is.....a criminal!

    Let it all out pet!


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    Brand_New wrote: »
    He will just have to wait until November to see if he gets a summons.

    He could try to contact the Garda involved but that's a bad idea as it might remind him to apply for a summons.
    Either way he only has to wait another 2 months to see what happens.

    I wouldn't engage with other posters on the morality of all this, all you wanted is legal advice and have received it.

    Cheers for the reply, at last someone who gets what I'm posting for!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭Trans Ann


    **** happens everyone's done it even unintentionally next day.get a good solicitor on his case when the summons comes

    Cheers


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Nice try op.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Cork_Guest


    Let it all out pet!

    Well let’s hope ye never have to deal with losing a loved one because of some selfish ***** who couldn’t be arsed to get up a bit early the next day or, knowing he needs to drive back, goes without a drink for one ****int night! 🀦*♂️


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭jcd5971


    A bunch of people here on the High horse.

    Nobody was hurt, the guy made a mistake and regrets it, sounds to me he has suffered terribly already for what was a victim less crime in this case.

    With luck the 6 months time runs out and he can put this behind him.

    I'd maybe suggest your friend to get proper legal advice to steer him in best course of action.

    Pass on my best wishes to your friend op.


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