Slurry spreading today

screamer

Local farmer here horsing out slurry with massive rain and floods predicted. Is this allowed? If not, who do I call about it.

nilhg

Currently Met Eireann have a wind warning out but no rainfall warning, here where I am their forecast gives me a couple of MM of rain over the next day or two and ground conditions are good so I was out spreading this morning and will go back again when the current rain clears.

If you want to ring someone I'd suggest ringing the farmer, you can explain your concerns and the qualifications you are basing them on.

TooOldBoots

Ring the EPA if you have concerns.
National Environmental Complaints Line (NECL) 1850 365 121
They will check it out for you

Gods Gift

Slurry spreading hotline

0818 777 605.

The11Duff

screamer wrote: »

Local farmer here horsing out slurry with massive rain and floods predicted. Is this allowed? If not, who do I call about it.

Or you could mind your own business

alps

The11Duff wrote: »

Or you could mind your own business

Maybe you could.....but most farmers with a smidgen of conscience would think this is doing the absolute bollox....

Were barely hanging onto our licence to farm and this carry on (happening around here today too) is desperately damaging.........

memorystick

Gods Gift wrote: »

Slurry spreading hotline

0818 777 605.

If they don’t answer, try this crowd

https://www.partyline.ie/men?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjMDAicin6wIVFODtCh2g6APwEAAYASACEgLC8vD_BwE


A problem shared is a problem laughed at they say.

Mooooo

Tis feck all good down the drain as well. Was gonna spread fert the start of the week but put it off with the the way the forecast went and the week turned out.

RightTurnClyde

alps wrote: »

Maybe you could.....but most farmers with a smidgen of conscience would think this is doing the absolute bollox....

Were barely hanging onto our licence to farm and this carry on (happening around here today too) is desperately damaging.........

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Alps , what weather app is that that you're using. Looks good

alps

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Alps , what weather app is that that you're using. Looks good

https://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/cork

Much better if you use it on the desktop site, even on your phone..

hopeso

screamer wrote: »

Local farmer here horsing out slurry with massive rain and floods predicted. Is this allowed? If not, who do I call about it.

Joe Duffy? :rolleyes:

pancyk

screamer wrote: »

Local farmer here horsing out slurry with massive rain and floods predicted. Is this allowed? If not, who do I call about it.

Would you prefer if that was done on a sunny week with no wind ?

blackbox

The11Duff wrote: »

Or you could mind your own business

Pollution of waterways is everyone's business.

dh1985

memorystick wrote: »

If they don’t answer, try this crowd

https://www.partyline.ie/men?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjMDAicin6wIVFODtCh2g6APwEAAYASACEgLC8vD_BwE


A problem shared is a problem laughed at they say.

That could work out a very expensive solution

6600

alps wrote: »

https://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/cork

Much better if you use it on the desktop site, even on your phone..

They have an app now, is very good.

taylor3

Genuine question.as a Dub but living Rural why do farmers spread slurry, is it a fertiliser for the land ? All I know is it stinks to high heaven 😟ðŸ˜

Who2

taylor3 wrote: »

Genuine question.as a Dub but living Rural why do farmers spread slurry, is it a fertiliser for the land ? All I know is it stinks to high heaven 😟ðŸ˜

We initially used it to try keep the dubs out of the countryside but it didn’t work but we did realize it makes grass grow and like the dubs it needs to be put somewhere.

taylor3

Ah now we're not all bad shure look at all the country folk up in the big smoke the place is full of them... any publican I ever knew was not a Dub they own the place up there. So many small things about farming/country life I wouldn't have a clue on but must say I do be curious all the same. Love the lambing season in the spring time they are a joy.

Who2

Who2 wrote: »

We initially used it to try keep the dubs out of the countryside but it didn’t work but we did realize it makes grass grow and like the dubs it needs to be put somewhere.

As a dub in culchie land. I love the smell of slurry. Reminds me that's there's no pollution and the air is fresh.

Panch18

the way things are going we won't be able to take a leak down the yard now without being caught.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/all-farms-to-face-continuous-satellite-monitoring-in-next-cap-565258

Is this even legal? Surely it is some kind infringement on your basic human rights

twin_beacon

The11Duff wrote: »

Or you could mind your own business

try living with cryptosporidium in your drinking water, and then ask him if he should mind his own business. For most parts of the country, any slurry spread yesterday will mainly be in the rivers in the next few days considering the levels of rain that fell over the country last night.

Donald Trump

SouthWesterly wrote: »

As a dub in culchie land. I love the smell of slurry. Reminds me that's there's no pollution and the air is fresh.

Sure the original line in the movie was "I love the smell of slurry in the morning" but then they modified it for the yank audience.

Reggie.

Panch18 wrote: »

the way things are going we won't be able to take a leak down the yard now without being caught.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/all-farms-to-face-continuous-satellite-monitoring-in-next-cap-565258

Is this even legal? Surely it is some kind infringement on your basic human rights

No hiding the pulling out of ditches in the summer now from the back fields

Jb1989

Reggie. wrote: »

No hiding the pulling out of ditches in the summer now from the back fields

Just get permission like is protocol.

Reggie.

Jb1989 wrote: »

Just get permission like is protocol.

Yep

Panch18

Reggie. wrote: »

No hiding the pulling out of ditches in the summer now from the back fields

I have no problem with them checking satellites for ditches being taken out

BUT - that doesn't need to have a satellite overhead every 5 days, a couple of times a year would suffice for that - its there in March, its gone in September kind of thing

spying on us every 5 days is completely over the top - they were hardly spying that much on Saddam during the gulf war

It's getting beyond a joke at this stage

Reggie.

Panch18 wrote: »

I have no problem with them checking satellites for ditches being taken out

BUT - that doesn't need to have a satellite overhead every 5 days, a couple of times a year would suffice for that - its there in March, its gone in September kind of thing

spying on us every 5 days is completely over the top - they were hardly spying that much on Saddam during the gulf war

It's getting beyond a joke at this stage

Think its 3 days

Mooooo

Panch18 wrote: »

I have no problem with them checking satellites for ditches being taken out

BUT - that doesn't need to have a satellite overhead every 5 days, a couple of times a year would suffice for that - its there in March, its gone in September kind of thing

spying on us every 5 days is completely over the top - they were hardly spying that much on Saddam during the gulf war

It's getting beyond a joke at this stage

Let them stick cameras in VW or Bayers back yard see how they'd get on....

Gods Gift

Mooooo wrote: »

Let them stick cameras in VW or Bayers back yard see how they'd get on....

Or the meat plants.

Panch18

Reggie. wrote: »

Think its 3 days

even worse

Surely this is a breach of our basic human right now?

Or am i totally wrong on this?

_Brian

The11Duff wrote: »

Or you could mind your own business

The days of saying this are gone.

Farming has to step up and acknowledge its responsibility in the contamination of groundwater and hammering out slurry in wet weather with pouring rain forecast isn’t right.

Telling people essentially to F off just paints all land owners in the wrong.

There are definitely other sources of contamination but farming needs to be up front and accept its share of the problem.

Say my name

Reggie. wrote: »

Think its 3 days

It's everyday but they dumbed it down for the journal's readers.

Copernicus goes into a lot of detail. Soil moisture, vegetation, soil carbon measurements. Even sees if you overlapped with the fert spreader on the headlands.
Cool thing is it can see through clouds.

Another Sat that goes over everyday and which is free to view to the public. But with dumbed down pixels for the public is ..https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/

Buford T. Justice XIX

Panch18 wrote: »

even worse

Surely this is a breach of our basic human right now?

Or am i totally wrong on this?

It'll be covered somewhere in the BPS terms and conditions, of that you can be certain.

You agree to the payment, you agree to their terms and conditions.

Reggie.

Panch18 wrote: »

even worse

Surely this is a breach of our basic human right now?

Or am i totally wrong on this?

Once you agree to the payments you let them in the door

screamer

Wonderful news on the surveillance, farmers who are decent and farming properly have nothing to worry about. We have a few of those around too and gentlemen they are. However the other miserable ****s who think they own the land, go be damned are going to have to change their ways or be in trouble. Delighted for them.
BTW I called the EPA the other day, so my neighbour can expect a follow up.

TooOldBoots

screamer wrote: »

BTW I called the EPA the other day, so my neighbour can expect a follow up.

Good man

Say my name

Copernicus also monitors aerosol emissions both urban and rural. So backyard burning is probably being picked up.
Methane emissions from any source I think the satellites also track.

jimini0

There is goin to be white bags placed in fields and moved around every 3 days.
Farmer here was out Tuesday eve spreading slurry. It was a downpour all day Wednesday so that slurry is in the drains that lead to a river that ends up in the sea a mile away. Not only is it pollution but its a total waste of slurry.

screamer

jimini0 wrote: »

There is goin to be white bags placed in fields and moved around every 3 days.
Farmer here was out Tuesday eve spreading slurry. It was a downpour all day Wednesday so that slurry is in the drains that lead to a river that ends up in the sea a mile away. Not only is it pollution but its a total waste of slurry.

Scandalous

jntsnk

jimini0 wrote: »

There is goin to be white bags placed in fields and moved around every 3 days.
Farmer here was out Tuesday eve spreading slurry. It was a downpour all day Wednesday so that slurry is in the drains that lead to a river that ends up in the sea a mile away. Not only is it pollution but its a total waste of slurry.

Can you explain the use of white bags in fields?

jimini0

jntsnk wrote: »

Can you explain the use of white bags in fields?

From the the sky they look like sheep. If a man is claiming on ground that he doesn't graze. Heard stories of it bein done. But never witnessed it

alps

jimini0 wrote: »

From the the sky they look like sheep. If a man is claiming on ground that he doesn't graze. Heard stories of it bein done. But never witnessed it

That was Ballykissangel I'd say..

emaherx

alps wrote: »

That was Ballykissangel I'd say..

That's where I seen it any way. ..
One of the better episodes

jimini0

jimini0 wrote: »

From the the sky they look like sheep. If a man is claiming on ground that he doesn't graze. Heard stories of it bein done. But never witnessed it

I'd say the resolution of satellites today is pretty good

_Brian

jimini0 wrote: »

From the the sky they look like sheep. If a man is claiming on ground that he doesn't graze. Heard stories of it bein done. But never witnessed it

Don’t be repeating that anywhere and expect to be taken seriously.

jimini0

_Brian wrote: »

Don’t be repeating that anywhere and expect to be taken seriously.

Ya crazy talk. Turns out it was in a tv programme so its kinda true

Do these satellite surveys watch for the number of stock cross checked with how much stock should be on ground?

Let’s just say hypothetically a farmer was allowing a neighbouring farmer to let some stock in an odd weekend to help graze down ground without doing any paper work for it. Would this sort of thing be picked up on?

Grueller

screamer wrote: »

Wonderful news on the surveillance, farmers who are decent and farming properly have nothing to worry about. We have a few of those around too and gentlemen they are. However the other miserable ****s who think they own the land, go be damned are going to have to change their ways or be in trouble. Delighted for them.
BTW I called the EPA the other day, so my neighbour can expect a follow up.

Farmers who think they own the land? I would say they probably do own it in most cases.

John_Rambo

I couldn't go surfing recently in the West because of water quality (after travelling East because of water quality!!). Surely this is just ignorance and not malicious?

There's no advantage to spreading slurry before rain is there?

alps

John_Rambo wrote: »

I couldn't go surfing recently in the West because of water quality (after travelling East because of water quality!!). Surely this is just ignorance and not malicious?

There's no advantage to spreading slurry before rain is there?

The high rainfall events "wash off" everything from roads, houses, fields, farm roadways, waste disposal tanks that fill up etc, so not just slurry..

There would be absolutely no advantage in spreading slurry before a rainfall event where you would have a likelihood of surface runoff..(like early this week), however there would be a distinct advantage in damp conditions where grass leaf is damp so that slurry would not stick or "cake" to the plant.

Horsing out slurry before the rain this week was a reflection of either ignorance, carelessness or downright reckless abandon...

bigpink

Kaison Echoing Gambler wrote: »

Do these satellite surveys watch for the number of stock cross checked with how much stock should be on ground?

Let’s just say hypothetically a farmer was allowing a neighbouring farmer to let some stock in an odd weekend to help graze down ground without doing any paper work for it. Would this sort of thing be picked up on?

Sounds like a guy breaking the law