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Woman and girl found alive after 15 hours in sea off coast

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭LostDuck


    Ridiculous!

    They did well handling the situation but is anyone going to challenge them about checking forecasts before going out to sea?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how



    That was like predicting there'll be rain some time next week.
    LostDuck wrote: »
    Ridiculous!

    They did well handling the situation but is anyone going to challenge them about checking forecasts before going out to sea?

    What's the big deal, it's a good luck story. They aren't exactly falling off the trees at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭LostDuck


    What's the big deal, it's a good luck story.

    The deal is that next time Aldi/Lidl have inflatables on offer there'll be more entering the water when it looks flat calm. There's been no frank discussion about checking forecasts and not going in on inflatables with an offshore wind.

    Seems like a missed opportunity to educate others, hopefully they deliver the message tomorrow night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    LostDuck wrote: »
    The deal is that next time Aldi/Lidl have inflatables on offer there'll be more entering the water when it looks flat calm. There's been no frank discussion about checking forecasts and not going in on inflatables with an offshore wind.

    Seems like a missed opportunity to educate others, hopefully they deliver the message tomorrow night.


    So.

    Your pre emting he interview before it even starts.


    Can I get the lotto numbers , cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭SeanF


    So, perhaps this hasn't been discussed here... I genuinely don't understand how they ended up so far out to sea. The day they went out and the day they were rescued were dead calm everywhere, not a bit of wind anywhere.

    This is August 14 at Lahinch:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315374

    This is August 15:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315375

    And from https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/daily-data, Athenry Aug 14-15 shows very little wind at any stage. I mean obviously they ended up 17 miles from home, but I don't understand how, given the conditions. And unless I'm mistaken, there was no wind forecasted at all for that night. They must have drifted with the natural ocean currents the whole time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Jizique


    SeanF wrote: »
    So, perhaps this hasn't been discussed here... I genuinely don't understand how they ended up so far out to sea. The day they went out and the day they were rescued were dead calm everywhere, not a bit of wind anywhere.

    This is August 14 at Lahinch:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315374

    This is August 15:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315375

    And from https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/daily-data, Athenry Aug 14-15 shows very little wind at any stage. I mean obviously they ended up 17 miles from home, but I don't understand how, given the conditions. And unless I'm mistaken, there was no wind forecasted at all for that night. They must have drifted with the natural ocean currents the whole time.

    Wind was coming from the north east, and there were some very heavy squally thunderstorm around; I was on hols in the area at the time so I remember it


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭SeanF


    Jizique wrote: »
    Wind was coming from the north east, and there were some very heavy squally thunderstorm around; I was on hols in the area at the time so I remember it
    I wasn't too far away in Clare the whole time, I honestly don't remember any bad weather that night. It was perfectly calm I thought, and there was no forecasted storms that I remember, plus it should show up on the historical data?

    Sounds to me that that they went out quite late, then didn't have the strength or energy to get back to shore and drifted with the natural ocean currents all night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Jizique wrote: »
    Wind was coming from the north east, and there were some very heavy squally thunderstorm around; I was on hols in the area at the time so I remember it

    The North East wind combined with the sea breeze to give a really strong wind. It appeared really quickly. I walked at 7 & it was a gentle breeze, by 10 it was much stronger.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭SeanF


    Discodog wrote: »
    The North East wind combined with the sea breeze to give a really strong wind. It appeared really quickly. I walked at 7 & it was a gentle breeze, by 10 it was much stronger.
    Fair enough. That said, the https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/daily-data for 10pm Athenry shows 0 wind speed. As in, no wind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    SeanF wrote: »
    Fair enough. That said, the https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/daily-data for 10pm Athenry shows 0 wind speed. As in, no wind.

    There was a thunder storm in Galway Bay during the night.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭LostDuck


    SeanF wrote: »
    So, perhaps this hasn't been discussed here... I genuinely don't understand how they ended up so far out to sea. The day they went out and the day they were rescued were dead calm everywhere, not a bit of wind anywhere.

    This is August 14 at Lahinch:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315374

    This is August 15:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315375

    And from https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/daily-data, Athenry Aug 14-15 shows very little wind at any stage. I mean obviously they ended up 17 miles from home, but I don't understand how, given the conditions. And unless I'm mistaken, there was no wind forecasted at all for that night. They must have drifted with the natural ocean currents the whole time.

    You're looking at the wrong dates - they went in on 12th August. NE winds were forecast for that evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,905 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    SeanF wrote: »
    So, perhaps this hasn't been discussed here... I genuinely don't understand how they ended up so far out to sea. The day they went out and the day they were rescued were dead calm everywhere, not a bit of wind anywhere.

    This is August 14 at Lahinch:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315374

    This is August 15:
    http://lahinchsurfreport.magibiz.net/magico.asp?magpage=2&id=315375

    And from https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/daily-data, Athenry Aug 14-15 shows very little wind at any stage. I mean obviously they ended up 17 miles from home, but I don't understand how, given the conditions. And unless I'm mistaken, there was no wind forecasted at all for that night. They must have drifted with the natural ocean currents the whole time.

    Have a friend in the Lifeboats and the weather changed around midnight to windy conditions, torrential rain thunder and lightning and poor visibility, it happened on the 12th. not your dates. The Helicopter had to withdraw due to lightning strikes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭LostDuck


    Not unexpectedly, forecast was for moderate NE winds that evening, getting stronger into Thursday with thunder and lightning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Have a friend in the Lifeboats and the weather changed around midnight to windy conditions, torrential rain thunder and lightning and poor visibility, it happened on the 12th. not your dates. The Helicopter had to withdraw due to lightning strikes.

    The wind really picked up around 10pm when some of us started searching. The sea breeze was a big factor as it was in a Northerly direction & added to the wind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 971 ✭✭✭mjp


    I live locally in Spiddal and was pouring some crete that day. due to heat that day i had to water the concrete on hourly basis from 4 till 9pm to ensure it wouldnt crack and go off too quickly. There was a drastic change in wind and drop in temperature that evening between 6 and 7 clock and i could see it with power i had to use on water sprayer. I wouldnt notice it normally only that I was out so often that evening. I would regularly swim on beach evenings after work past few months but remember even commenting to my wife that evening how it changed all of a sudden in space of an hour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    mjp wrote: »
    I live locally in Spiddal and was pouring some crete that day. due to heat that day i had to water the concrete on hourly basis from 4 till 9pm to ensure it wouldnt crack and go off too quickly. There was a drastic change in wind and drop in temperature that evening between 6 and 7 clock and i could see it with power i had to use on water sprayer. I wouldnt notice it normally only that I was out so often that evening. I would regularly swim on beach evenings after work past few months but remember even commenting to my wife that evening how it changed all of a sudden in space of an hour.

    I agree. It was like a switch. The high temperature made the sea breeze stronger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭Your Face


    https://twitter.com/endacunningham/status/1308796161113849858?s=08

    "Emergency services at the scene of this morning’s rescue of a man from the water at the Claddagh by none other than Patrick and Morgan Oliver, the father and son who rescued paddle boarders Sara Feeney and Ellen Glynn last month!!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    Those lads are fishing for likes. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,208 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    I notice that the RNLI had to make a point of changing their original statement to include the names of the rescuers. Amazing work, but names shouldn't matter. Be humble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭Ludikrus


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    I notice that the RNLI had to make a point of changing their original statement to include the names of the rescuers. Amazing work, but names shouldn't matter. Be humble.


    Who's not being humble?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,208 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Ludikrus wrote: »
    Who's not being humble?

    Whomever splashed their names to the media, to the extent that RNLI had to re-write their shout-out write-up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Whomever splashed their names to the media, to the extent that RNLI had to re-write their shout-out write-up.

    Do you think its unusual that the media would identify people by name, or that it's strange for the RNLI to acknowledge that once they learn the details?

    Sounds like you think there was a PR firm in the background putting pressure on various parties.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Do you think its unusual that the media would identify people by name, or that it's strange for the RNLI to acknowledge that once they learn the details?

    Sounds like you think there was a PR firm in the background putting pressure on various parties.

    I know people who have rescued people in similar circumstances as this second rescue and their names were never splashed around the press


  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭Ludikrus


    I know people who have rescued people in similar circumstances as this second rescue and their names were never splashed around the press


    There they are looking for attention again.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2020/1121/1179626-galway-rescue/
    A swimmer who got into difficulty off the coast of Co Galway this morning has been rescued by two fishermen who were honoured for another dramatic sea rescue in August.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭Panda5000


    They say by 2025 you'll never be more than 5m from someone that has been rescued by the Olivers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,905 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Ludikrus wrote: »

    Galway Lifeboat was also involved taken to the station and treated for hypothermia and transferred to Ambulance. He was sitting on the large rock about fifty feet from the prom opposite Killorans pub.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭Psychlops


    Ludikrus wrote: »




    How are they looking for attention? They have pots in that area, if you know anything about Maritime Rescues you would know all vessels in an area where a mayday/emergency has been declared & that are capable should assist. They were in the area at the time, not attention seeking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,047 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    According to people on the internet

    They are going to have to not save the next person and let the sea take them.

    The Olivers have used up their saving lives quota.


    Thanks, people from the internet


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,522 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    afatbollix wrote: »
    According to people on the internet

    They are going to have to not save the next person and let the sea take them.

    The Olivers have used up their saving lives quota.


    Thanks, people from the internet

    I heard that people in Galway are getting 'Do not rescue if your surname is Oliver' tattooed on them to avoid the embarrassment of being associated with them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 828 ✭✭✭westgolf


    If it was yourself or a loved one or a family member who was in the water and was rescued, would any of ye be saying the same thing ? would ye care who responded and rescued as long as someone did ?


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