Road legal dirt bike ??

Ukbiker123

Hi
I’m from the UK and I’m moving to Ireland in September. I’m wondering what way the laws are for motorcycles over there is it the same as the UK where you can get day/night mot so you can drive dirt bikes on the road. I currently drive a yz250 dirt bike which I converted to street legal with lights speedometer and supermoto wheels
Thanks

Hillybilly4

You'll be pleased to know that there are no MOTs for motorbikes here.
As long as you have the V5 for it you would need to VRT it (to convert it to Irish reg). You need to make the booking for a VRT within 7 days of the bike entering the country and VRT it within 30 days.

Del2005

Hillybilly4 wrote: »

You'll be pleased to know that there are no MOTs for motorbikes here.
As long as you have the V5 for it you would need to VRT it (to convert it to Irish reg). You need to make the booking for a VRT within 7 days of the bike entering the country and VRT it within 30 days.

And the good news if you've owned it for >6 months the VRT is zero.

Ukbiker123

Del2005 wrote: »

And the good news if you've owned it for >6 months the VRT is zero.

That’s great news but will my bike be legal in Ireland as it’s registered as a motor cross that has been converted

Cheensbo

Ukbiker123 wrote: »

That’s great news but will my bike be legal in Ireland as it’s registered as a motor cross that has been converted

Yeah it will be. If it has a full V5C & identifiable VIN, it can be registered.

Ukbiker123

Cheensbo wrote: »

Yeah it will be. If it has a full V5C & identifiable VIN, it can be registered.

Thanks very much, much appreciated

two wheels good

The bad news is you won't find any legal greenway/byway network for vehicles such as in the UK - or Eng and Wales at least.

galwaytt

Ukbiker123 wrote: »

Hi
I’m from the UK and I’m moving to Ireland in September. I’m wondering what way the laws are for motorcycles over there is it the same as the UK where you can get day/night mot so you can drive dirt bikes on the road. I currently drive a yz250 dirt bike which I converted to street legal with lights speedometer and supermoto wheels
Thanks

Your bike has to have an odometer here to register it - no odo, no reg. Lots of posts on here about that.

Also I'm quite sure yours has more than 6k kms on yours to avoid any VAT issue.......;)

two wheels good

If you're importing as part of a change of residence the mileage on the 'bike isn't relevant.
But you must have owned it for 6 months (or is it 12months?) in UK and if you sell it here within 6 (or 12months?) import duties/VRT must be paid.
The gov.ie site is fairly clear about the details. Best to check there.
In my experience there wasn't even an inspection of the bike. Just a visit to the local tax office for form-filling and checking proof of residence. That may have changed of course.
It wasn't even necessary to pay the year's road tax on the spot.

two wheels good

OP here y'are:
"Transfer of Residence" link Revenue site not gov.ie
It's 6months ownership abroad and if sold in IRL within 12months VRT must be paid.
I didn't see mention of an inspection but I can say for certain it's not a requirement these days.

You can use the bike for a certain period on UK plates but expect insurance complications.
See also Temporary Exemption if it's not a permanent move. Maybe living in a vassal state of the EU will be intolerable.

One other comment..
When registering it I wouldn't mention dirt/off-road bike or road-legal modifications. If a clerk thinks "scrambler" they might reach for the hidden alarm button.

macplaxton

Not just ownership, don't forget the "use" bit as well. The Revenue love to see an insurance cert.

landmarkjohn

Depending on where you VRT the bike you may be required to demonstrate working indicators (indicators are 1 difference between UK and Irish requirements). I would trailer it or bring it in van.

Took me 3 visits and 2 different VRT centres to clear KTM EXC 200. Hope it goes well for you.

Hillybilly4

landmarkjohn wrote: »

Depending on where you VRT the bike you may be required to demonstrate working indicators (indicators are 1 difference between UK and Irish requirements). I would trailer it or bring it in van.

Took me 3 visits and 2 different VRT centres to clear KTM EXC 200. Hope it goes well for you.

Wow, you have been unlucky.
I've imported loads of KTM EXCs and never had an issue with (or without) indicators.
Tralee...on a Friday

beanns

landmarkjohn wrote: »

Depending on where you VRT the bike you may be required to demonstrate working indicators (indicators are 1 difference between UK and Irish requirements). I would trailer it or bring it in van.

Took me 3 visits and 2 different VRT centres to clear KTM EXC 200. Hope it goes well for you.

Hi there, did u get caught for vat because of mileage?? I have a husky 350 with 4100 km 2016 and their looking for €850 vat😡😡😡
Any info would be much appreciated

CJhaughey

If you have presented it to the VRT its too late, you can either pay the VAT ( under 6000km its classed as a new means of transport) or re-export it.
Your choice.

H_Lime

beanns wrote: »

Hi there, did u get caught for vat because of mileage?? I have a husky 350 with 4100 km 2016 and their looking for €850 vat������
Any info would be much appreciated

Clock it and present it someplace else, on a Friday...

CJhaughey

H_Lime wrote: »

Clock it and present it someplace else, on a Friday...

It is already on the system, that won't work afaik.
I know its that way for cars so I assume its the same for bikes.

beanns

Ukbiker123 wrote: »

Thanks very much, much appreciated

Hi there, im curious to know how you got on with vrt and vat on your dirt bike. Its takes alot of off roading to get above 6000km.. They want €830 vat on a 2016 dirt bike because it has only 4500km up 😡😡😡

beanns

CJhaughey wrote: »

If you have presented it to the VRT its too late, you can either pay the VAT ( under 6000km its classed as a new means of transport) or re-export it.
Your choice.

Hi there, if i re export it from NI, will i not still get caught for vat because it has only 4500km up kn her

Hillybilly4

beanns wrote: »

Hi there, im curious to know how you got on with vrt and vat on your dirt bike. Its takes alot of off roading to get above 6000km.. They want €830 vat on a 2016 dirt bike because it has only 4500km up ������

You need to temporarily replace your odometer with one showing >6k

two wheels good

Fancy TrailTech digital speedo? I wonder if putting additional trigger(s) on the wheel would rack up the miles faster.
And recalibrate for a bigger wheel circumference?

Analogue Speedo:
Do they check operation of speedo? Could use a speedo from any similar model, convincingly sitting in position.
I have wondered before now if sticking the speedo cable in an elec drill would work. What would Ferris do?
If you have a drill to sacrifice... I calculate 1500km would take ~33 hours at 500rpm.