Who's your worst despot?

Frankx

Kim Jung UN

I'd kick the crap out of him if I caught him

sabat

He's a real jerk

Montage of Feck

George Bush, his actions have probably effected more lives for the worse than Kim has.

Man with broke phone

General Buttnaked.

Honestly YouTube him.

JohnnyFlash

Mao was some cünt.

Rodney Bathgate

I’d have a soft spot for “Uncle Joe” Stalin. Very misunderstood.

Frankx

I hated Saddam Hussein

When he was hanged all my anger went away

sabat

sabat wrote: »

He's a real jerk

Made me immediately think of this:

corner of hells

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

I’d have a soft spot for “Uncle Joe” Stalin. Very misunderstood.

It was Beria that was the problem, Joe just couldn't keep him in line.

Even by bodycount alone, Mao was the worst, but he was awful for all sorts of reasons.

The best was Tito, still the only figure capable of uniting Yugoslav nationalities.

corner of hells

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Even by bodycount alone, Mao was the worst, but he was awful for all sorts of reasons.

The best was Tito, still the only figure capable of uniting Yugoslav nationalities.

Did you know Mao didn't need Secret Police?
Everybody was so terrified, they'd just grass each other up for anything.

Genghis Khan.

Vestiapx

Hitler was pretty bad I heard.

worded

Frankx wrote: »

I hated Saddam Hussein

When he was hanged all my anger went away

He was a bit of a b0lix
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein%27s_Iraq

Church on Tuesday

Idi Amin.

Honorary mention goes to my former school principal.

worded

Vestiapx wrote: »

Hitler was pretty bad I heard.

The irish are very forgiving and everyone deserves a second chance

Yes he made a few errors of judgement but his troops moral was kept high a lot of the time with the best marching powder

Frankx

We have to look outside our own country for despots

De Valera doesn't really cut it

Frankx

Frankx wrote: »

We have to look outside our own country for despots

De Valera doesn't really cut it

A very frank assessment.

Who would you recruit as striker?

gogo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Genghis Khan.

Genghis always offered surrender before war, he used to erect three tents.. white tent = a chance to surrender, if that don’t work, red tent = all men of fighting age would die, if that didn’t work then black tent = total and utter annihilation.
He was an incredible leader and people flocked to serve him, he was also fighting a regime from the Chinese that kept his people divided for centuries, The ‘divide and rule’ policy.
Yes he was merciless and millions were killed under his rule, but a small part has to admire his what he achieved, the romans were no different in there ruthlessness to conquer land under Julius Caesar, but there was always an option to surrender first which I feel sets them apart from other, well ... despots

Arghus

Pol Pot was insanely demented, even by the standards of these things.

Frankx

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A very frank assessment.

Who would you recruit as striker?

Mussolini for Italy

Churchill for the rest of the world

dd973

Inchicore.


Oh...despot.

Polar101

Depends on what the criteria is. If it's completely destroying your own country in the shortest possible time, then Pol Pot has to "win".

corner of hells

corner of hells wrote: »

Did you know Mao didn't need Secret Police?
Everybody was so terrified, they'd just grass each other up for anything.

He turned oppression into a kind of fetish. I find it unbelievable that there are Maoists in existence today, although most of them bend over backwards to try and separate the theoretical from the historical case. It isn't very convincing.

I was taught a class in college by a Maoist, a man who has written at least two books full of deluded praise of Mao's prescriptions. Always found it odd that you'd get fired for being a Hitler sympathiser but can merrily spout the positive attributes of the worst mass murderer in human history.

Not to mention the fact that if he'd lived in Communist China, Mao would have ploughed him into the soil years ago.

s1ippy

Mao just murdered the right people. He was fair.

Frankx

Frankx wrote: »

We have to look outside our own country for despots

De Valera doesn't really cut it

Indeed, quite the opposite.

The historical case for the backlash against De Valera following the anti-clericalism of recent decades is very weak.

He was responsible for the 1937 constitution, with its focus on individual rights, democracy and the Rule of Law at a time when the rest of Europe was descending into totalitarianism, and placed more constraints on Government than almost any other country in Europe.

Frankx

Arghus wrote: »

Pol Pot was insanely demented, even by the standards of these things.

He's at the extreme end of despots

Normal One

Thatcher. ****.

Canis Lupus

Beasty jkjk

Junkyard Tom

Barry Manilow

KungPao

Tony Hayers.

Ipso

KungPao wrote: »

Tony Hayers.

Evolution over revolution, my ass!

Beanntraigheach

Vigo the Carpathian

Mad_maxx

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

He turned oppression into a kind of fetish. I find it unbelievable that there are Maoists in existence today, although most of them bend over backwards to try and separate the theoretical from the historical case. It isn't very convincing.

I was taught a class in college by a Maoist, a man who has written at least two books full of deluded praise of Mao's prescriptions. Always found it odd that you'd get fired for being a Hitler sympathiser but can merrily spout the positive attributes of the worst mass murderer in human history.

Not to mention the fact that if he'd lived in Communist China, Mao would have ploughed him into the soil years ago.

Nothing odd about it , leftists dominate academia so when it's one of their own doing the killing, it's not so bad

Mad_maxx

manager I had twenty years ago

Cross between Hitler and Ally Mc Beal

Neurotic Nazi

JohnnyFlash

Alex Ferguson.

selwyn froggitt

KungPao wrote: »

Tony Hayers.

The devil can take many forms

Randy Archer

Frankx wrote: »

I hated Saddam Hussein

When he was hanged all my anger went away

Did you see the LIVE execution on the internet . Was around New Year’s Eve . It could be found on line

Yikes, We were all singing and dancing for his death (Literally) just before it happened and then utterly dumb during the event and after. Not something I want to witness again. Death is no joke . Still a “human”

He was pretty defiant right up to the end

Randy Archer

Robert Mugabe . It was meant to be a great change, Zimbabwe was a strong economy ...roll forward 30 years later, a cess pool. A shame as the people are nice decent humans , just got a **** for a leader , who didn’t give a toss for the people

Was he ruthless ? Oh god yes, allowed people Who didn’t vote for him and his party to starve, in the age of social media watching. But, he wasn’t useful in rooting out the opposition as they remained strong

A few other bastards from Africa spring to mind too. Charles Taylor from Liberia loved his diamonds . The Uganda lad is horrific

Your Face

Stalin.
I really have to question the intelligence of the people who still defend him.

randd1

gogo wrote: »

Genghis always offered surrender before war, he used to erect three tents.. white tent = a chance to surrender, if that don’t work, red tent = all men of fighting age would die, if that didn’t work then black tent = total and utter annihilation.
He was an incredible leader and people flocked to serve him, he was also fighting a regime from the Chinese that kept his people divided for centuries, The ‘divide and rule’ policy.
Yes he was merciless and millions were killed under his rule, but a small part has to admire his what he achieved, the romans were no different in there ruthlessness to conquer land under Julius Caesar, but there was always an option to surrender first which I feel sets them apart from other, well ... despots

When a city had to be made example of, he would order everything living in the city to be killed. That meant all animals too.

Women of any age, without exception, were raped prior to being killed. Everybody would have their heads cut off and stacked into pyramids.

Sometimes it could take a few days for the Mongols to kill everyone by execution, a team of soldiers sometimes had 1000 people to be killed.

That being said, one of the reasons they got as far as Europe was because he felt he was betrayed by Moslems. He had agreed a truce and peace with the Moslem Sultan at the time, and both had hammered out a very beneficial trade deal that included protected trade routes from Europe to Japan, India and Africa and everywhere in between.

One of the Sultans men however refused to acknowledge the Mongols, and sent their trade emissaries back to Khan with their hats stapled to their heads.

Khan demanded the be handed over to him for punishment, but the Sultan refused. That's when the Mongols started moving west, wiping out half the population of the Middle East and Ukraine/Southern Russia. The city of Merv was raised to the ground and everyone in it put to death (over a million people), it was thought to be at the time the foremost scientific, mathematical, astronomical and technological city of the age.

Had the Sultan handed over the offending party in the interest of peace, the world might have been very different today.

An interesting fella at the very least was Genghis Khan.

nigeldaniel

The thing about despots is, unless history tells us about them we don't know they exist. How many more are not written about or worse, how many more are written up in a biased and false manner. These days I have little regard for upper education as there is a creeping nature about it that will turn out young people who are misguided and sometimes plain wrong about things. The media don't help much in this regard.

Frankx

Idi Amin


Africa's scary BFG

Mad_maxx

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Nothing odd about it , leftists dominate academia

More Jordan Peterson nonsense, tbf.

I assume that's where it comes from. He used to come out with that nonsense, and then there was a sudden mushrooming of lads parroting him on the internet.

Look, if anyone has reason to hate Mao it's the academics. Even in Ireland the Maoist students had a habit for punching academics in the face.

Randy Archer

Who are the best, successful and slightly cool despots ?

Would Castro n Che be considered total ledge bags

Didn’t Pinochet have some interesting ways to make people disappear ?

What about Rocket Man ?

Frankx

Randy Archer wrote: »

Who are the best, successful and slightly cool despots ?

Would Castro n Che be considered total ledge bags

Didn’t Pinochet have some interesting ways to make people disappear ?

What about Rocket Man ?

Pinochet had a fleet of helicopters constantly ferrying people out to sea to be dropped into the ocean

ClydeTallyBump

Stalin.

Frankx

ClydeTallyBump wrote: »

Stalin.

Didn't Stalin personally execute thousands while watching porn movies?

fleet_admiral

Barack Obama

Randy Archer

Frankx wrote: »

Pinochet had a fleet of helicopters constantly ferrying people out to sea to be dropped into the ocean

Clever, wasn’t it . Cost feck all, no proofs or traces left behind .

Those passengers won the golden ticket for all expenses paid luxury flight to a hidden luxurious island . It was so good that they never came back or emigrated elsewhere .

Dropped into the sea ? No no no, that was Pinochet’s scholarship fund to promote scuba diving and sea tourism ...

storker

Vestiapx wrote: »

Hitler was pretty bad I heard.

At least he didn't play jungle music at three in the morning.