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Fixing slates to a block wall.

  • 24-07-2020 9:27am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭


    I have some old, thin roof slates that I want to use in the garden to cover a block wall, just to improve its appearance. If I apply cement mortar to the backs of the slates will they stick to the blocks? Is there anything I can add to the mortar/approach I can take to make them stick?

    They have at least one nail hole, but I am not seeing slate nails going into concrete blocks, it might help if the nail penetrated the mortar though?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,888 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    What about products like TEC 7
    The other idea is to actually slate it properly with lathes

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭GinSoaked


    If all your slates have good nail holes then screw then to the wall. Lot of holes to drill but could be done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The tiles are varied and with in a lot of cases overly worn nail holes - they would not be suitable for a roof for example. The nail holes would not hold the slates in place on their own. I want to use the slates more like tiles, just to cover the wall rather than 'slate' it. I am just concerned that the smoothness of the slates would not key into the mortar, unlike tiles which have a roughish back.

    Edit, I wonder would a waterproof tile adhesive work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    looksee wrote: »
    The tiles are varied and with in a lot of cases overly worn nail holes - they would not be suitable for a roof for example. The nail holes would not hold the slates in place on their own. I want to use the slates more like tiles, just to cover the wall rather than 'slate' it. I am just concerned that the smoothness of the slates would not key into the mortar, unlike tiles which have a roughish back.

    Edit, I wonder would a waterproof tile adhesive work?

    You could use expoxy grout as an adhesive, it specifically states that it's both an adhesive and grout and would be totally waterproof. It's grip on any surface is frightening but it's near impossible to get in Ireland without a special order and thus it's price is eye watering. I was quoted between €101 and €189 for a 4kg tub from 5 different Ardex suppliers.

    Silicone should work but the back of each slate would need to be well covered as any gaps could lead to slates cracking if there was any pressure applied.

    If the slates are varied are you intending to break them and make a sort of mosaic. Otherwise varied slates with nail holes stuck to a wall mightn't look very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,891 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    I would just buy lats(2*1 1/2) , steel nail them to the wall and then nail the slates to them the same as you would on a roof. They won't fall that way, they would definitely slip down if you tried to stick them.
    If the nail holes are gone you can just bore a new hole on the same line down from the top but in or out from the side wherever you can nearest the old holes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    You could use expoxy grout as an adhesive, it specifically states that it's both an adhesive and grout and would be totally waterproof. It's grip on any surface is frightening but it's near impossible to get in Ireland without a special order and thus it's price is eye watering. I was quoted between €101 and €189 for a 4kg tub from 5 different Ardex suppliers.

    Silicone should work but the back of each slate would need to be well covered as any gaps could lead to slates cracking if there was any pressure applied.

    If the slates are varied are you intending to break them and make a sort of mosaic. Otherwise varied slates with nail holes stuck to a wall mightn't look very good.

    If I did make a mosaic I would still have the same issue of sticking them in place! I can cope with the design aspect of making them look good, the practical issue of making them stick is the problem. Thank you for the epoxy suggestion but it would be outside my budget!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    Tec7 or no more nails instant grab, etc. Use a batten for each row. Start at the bottom if you want them to overlap.


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