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The job hunt is a dehumanising process

  • 14-07-2020 4:45pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭


    There's only so much rejection emails to terribly paid internships one can take. Have the degree, have the Masters, have worked consistently but no matter how many CVs. I churn out, the response is invariably negative.

    It is absolutely soul destroying. Why does it feel like the system is rigged? How many CVs. And rejections do you take before you try to come up with an alternative strategy? The definition of madness and all that. This is just too much really. For all the jobs I have applied for there has not even been a peliminary acumen test or personality profile onto the next stage rely, let alone a real interview.

    It's dehumanising. It's demoralising. And it's wrong. Life is short. Some of us just want to sink our teeth into something and we are denied that opportunity. I have got my degree. I went off and did a Master. And I'm still struggling away in the same college job I worked in for last 4 years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,717 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Have someone experienced look at both your cv and cover letter strategies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭maneno


    There's only so much rejection emails to terribly paid internships one can take. Have the degree, have the Masters, have worked consistently but no matter how many CVs. I churn out, the response is invariably negative.

    It is absolutely soul destroying. Why does it feel like the system is rigged? How many CVs. And rejections do you take before you try to come up with an alternative strategy? The definition of madness and all that. This is just too much really. For all the jobs I have applied for there has not even been a peliminary acumen test or personality profile onto the next stage rely, let alone a real interview.

    It's dehumanising. It's demoralising. And it's wrong. Life is short. Some of us just want to sink our teeth into something and we are denied that opportunity. I have got my degree. I went off and did a Master. And I'm still struggling away in the same college job I worked in for last 4 years.

    Keep going you will get your break. Have someone look at your cv and cover letter, best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    Sorry, OP. It can be tough.

    Unfortunately, every time you are not shortlisted for a role, there are other applicants who are seen as more suitable - that's just the way it is. I often find it useful at a later point to see who was placed, and look at their experience for comparison. More often than not, I genuinely think they were a much better match. Sometimes, it means adjusting my expectations and aiming a little (or a lot) lower, but more often than not it just means bridging the gap between my skills and experience and theirs, and trying again.

    While it's great you have a degree and masters, most people do these days and it doesn't make you special in the eyes of any employer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Diziet


    It's tough - and demoralising. In response to the 'how many CVs', the answer is very many. It is easy to rack up a hundred or more applications.

    My advice would be to keep looking critically at your CV and at the roles you are applying for and keep doing things to update your skills. Use your network - friends, family friends, people you have a connection to. Pick up the phone and talk to them, ask for advice.

    Widen your net in terms of the jobs you apply for. And have a read of this book, which is a great job hunting manual:https://www.bookdepository.com/Great-Answers-to-Tough-Interview-Questions-Martin-John-Yate/9780749481421?redirected=true&utm_medium=Google&utm_campaign=Base2&utm_source=IE&utm_content=Great-Answers-to-Tough-Interview-Questions&selectCurrency=EUR&w=AFFPAU9S64YBVTA8VCS2&pdg=pla-293946777986:cmp-10333900495:adg-102993026076:crv-443150513206:pos-:dev-c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImoqc4_PO6gIVh7PtCh11IAsbEAQYAiABEgIK0_D_BwE

    Good luck, you will get there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The op will get something eventually but maybe it will not be exactly in the area they want.

    The op does not say what area they are looking for but it could well be that it's just very sought after and competitive, things like media careers, PR/communications as they are perceived to be glamour so that could be a factor.

    There are not many graduate nurses who are unemployed unless they want to be for example.

    Good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭OMM 0000


    If you PM me a copy of a typical cover letter you use, I'll ask my recruitment friend to review it. I'll also give you feedback.

    You can include your CV too if you want.


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Keep your head up and keep trying. It's a grind but you'll come out the other end. I finished my masters in 2009 and prospects were fairly grim at the time. I eventually got a job that I've been in for a couple of years now...but it took time and perseverance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 karmyth


    Keep at it OP, it's not easy nor quick but you'll get there eventually - even if you have to initially go for a job that is not quite what you're looking for. I had to start from scratch after a long break from my career, it wasn't easy but eventually I managed to get a job in the industry I wanted (which was different from my academic background and professional experience), and that 1 job was all that was needed to get me on track and help me get a better job after that.

    Having a degree and a masters are good achievements, but they don't make you special or different, so many people have them nowadays - don't get too attached to that as your selling point, it's not. Persevere, network, read about the industry you want to work on, get someone to review your CV and cover letters like others said, but most of all keep at it. And make sure to always spell check and personalise your cover letters to the job you are applying for, do not use the same cover letter for different jobs; also use the right industry keywords in your CV, which may help with getting through automated selection filters before human eyes actually look at it.

    Good luck!


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