llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Away With The Fairies

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

Purple Mountain

Let me guess, Wales?

Sardonicat

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

Once, when I was away with the fairies

Away With The Fairies

And if anyone wants to learn how to pronounce it

https://youtu.be/fHxO0UdpoxM

colm_mcm

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Let me guess, Wales?

Yep

The name means "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel near to the fierce whirlpool of St Tysilio of the red cave

Pherekydes

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

Yes. When we were in a gift shop my daughter asked two sales assistants how they pronounced it and the two of them reeled it off fluently and flawlessly.

sdanseo

Anyone who's taken their car to UK and onwards via Holyhead has been. The A55 goes right past it.

Our Welsh geography teacher used to spiel it out. There's also a video, so between the two, sadly, I can say it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXKsQ2nbno

SnowyMay

It's ok, but it's no hippopotomonstrossesquipedaliophobia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-V6FHWYtcg

Ubbquittious

Passed through there on the train. 5 posts needed to hold up the sign for the name of the station

I just call it Llanfairpillygwillyroganjosh for short

afro man

Stopped in it twice on designated bus stop on way back from old Trafford.. Big gift shop and plenty of parkin for buses.. Not a kinda place you would go out of your way to visit

igCorcaigh

colm_mcm wrote: »

The name means "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel near to the fierce whirlpool of St Tysilio of the red cave"

This is why postcodes were born.

Auguste Comte

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

I thought that was the address for the dyslexia association of Wales.

igCorcaigh

Auguste Comte wrote: »

I thought that was the address for the dyslexia association of Wales.

I thought it was an Apex Twin song.

Geog1234

Years ago when I stopped off there by train the conductor informed me it is called Llanfair P.G. for short. Some of the trains - those that serve the small rural stations between Holyhead and Bangor - stop there while the Holyhead-London trains belt through. There's a station called Llanfairfechan further along the North Wales line...

TheValeyard

Sounds like if I say it out loud the furniture will start levitating.

cj maxx

afro man wrote: »

Stopped in it twice on designated bus stop on way back from old Trafford.. Big gift shop and plenty of parkin for buses.. Not a kinda place you would go out of your way to visit

That describes old trafford perfectly

Never been but I learned how to pronounce it. It's my party trick...

....I don't get invited to parties.

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

Yes, if you divert slightly off the main route from Holyhead out of Anglesey you reach it easily. A branch of Edinburgh Woollen Mills is there selling touristy stuff. I remember as an I year old on a school trip bus to London one of the girls could pronounce this word fluently, so I took it upon myself to learn it, and every since I love opportunities to rattle it off.

Geog1234

Geog1234 wrote: »

Years ago when I stopped off there by train the conductor informed me it is called Llanfair P.G. for short. Some of the trains - those that serve the small rural stations between Holyhead and Bangor - stop there while the Holyhead-London trains belt through. There's a station called Llanfairfechan further along the North Wales line...

Correctly Llanfairfechan is pronounced "Hhlan-v-eyre-vekhhan" rather than how non-Welsh speakers would typically and mistakenly say it. Klan-fair (as in funfair) feckin.

dmc17

Stopped there on the way back from a match years ago

dmc17

Hope he got a bonus for this

Penrhyndeudraeth is another nice one to try and pronounce. Once had to ask a bus driver to let me off there. Welsh is very largely phonetic, with consonant and diphthong rules to learn.

E = e as in met, set, pet
U = The vowel sound in meal, meat, she, pea
EU = the vowel diphthong in Say, Play, May
RH = Hr, the way "what" is actually pronounced "heat"
AE = the diphthong sound in Eye, Buy, Shy

Once you know the rules it's mostly easy to put them together, so it goes:

pen-hrin-day-dry-th

dzsfah2xoynme9

I visited Taumatawhakatangi­hangakoauauotamatea­turipukakapikimaunga­horonukupokaiwhen­uakitanatahu when I lived in New Zealand..

Gay Byrne once had a competition on his radio show, the prize a trip to Wales, Competitor callers had to rattle of the full of Llanfair PG, and a Welsh man was the judge. I tried to call in with my attempt but couldn't get onto the show at all as the lines were blocked. The attempts were, of course, pretty lame, and though not perfect I would likely have won the prize on that occasion.

SEPT 23 1989

There are beautiful places to visit in north wales and it's on our doorstep

Portmeirion is on the list

McGinniesta

go on the go go gock

McGinniesta

McGinniesta wrote: »

go on the go go gock

Hard to put the brakes on when it comes to the end bit.

fr336

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

And if anyone wants to learn how to pronounce it

https://youtu.be/fHxO0UdpoxM

I was racing to post this....

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

Been there. Have the t-shirt. And the pen.

McGinniesta

Deleted User wrote: »

Hard to put the brakes on when it comes to the end bit.

icky ocky horses gocky (go go gock)

KaneToad

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

Yes. Many years ago. Haven't felt the need to return.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes, if you divert slightly off the main route from Holyhead out of Anglesey you reach it easily. A branch of Edinburgh Woollen Mills is there selling touristy stuff. I remember as an I year old on a school trip bus to London one of the girls could pronounce this word fluently, so I took it upon myself to learn it, and every since I love opportunities to rattle it off.

You were a 1 year old on a school trip?

Were you like Dougie Houser and a doctor by 16?

Strumms

Was there too getting back from Old Trafford and had to change, oddly...

It’s pronounced / said as Llanfairpwll by the locals.

Away With The Fairies

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

There are beautiful places to visit in north wales and it's on our doorstep

Portmeirion is on the list

I can't wait until I can travel again. Wales is on my list.

Hego Damask

Was there on a school tour in 1989, had to take about 4 photos with my ****ty film camera to get the whole town name in !!

Hego Damask

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I can't wait until I can travel again. Wales is on my list.

Wales is gorgeous , really under-rated place...

Eduard Khil

Kerry is worse, where an inch is a mile.

scudzilla

North Wales is were i'm from, there's some really weird place and place names, some of the locals in certain places down the Cony Valley and Gwynedd are just pure nuts, i'm born and bred in wales, 100% welsh, yet they wouldn't speak to me at all because i can't speak Welsh fluently.

When i was a bailiff back in Wales i visited a guy who had bought a pub in Criccieth, he was from Manchester, a really sound guy and explained all his troubles.

Before buying the place was booming, he'd done all the checks with accountants, the place was a little gold mine and had been for years, the minute he bought it it died a death, not one of the locals went in there because he wasn't Welsh.

dd973

AFAIK even the Welsh regard those North Walian places closest to us as a 'hickville', I rather like the strong Welsh culture they've retained though, being big speakers of the language, I think the further East you go up there it gets influenced by the NW of England, the bits nearest to Chester seem to be basically the Scouse hinterland albeit in Wales.

Surprised that you don't seem to get that many coming here to live and work given Dublin's proximity and employment opportunities compared to NW Wales.

scudzilla

dd973 wrote: »

AFAIK even the Welsh regard those North Walian places closest to us as a 'hickville', I rather like the strong Welsh culture they've retained though, being big speakers of the language, I think the further East you go up there it gets influenced by the NW of England, the bits nearest to Chester seem to be basically the Scouse hinterland albeit in Wales.

Surprised that you don't seem to get that many coming here to live and work given Dublin's proximity and employment opportunities compared to NW Wales.

Thats true, most people from North Wales regard the people from down the Conwy Valley and as far south as Aberystwyth as strange farming folk, brotherly/sisterly love and all that. As for the South Walians, got not time for them :pac::pac:

Like 2 different countries, you don't get much Welsh spoken if at all in the South Walian cities but you do in the South Wales valleys.

The scouse/north west accent is pretty strong in North Wales, people have often said i have a scouse twang.

As for Anglesey....jaysus, i don't actually know where that would belong to.

Rivalries between welsh town are also crazy, crazy scraps (mostly football related) whenever Swansea/Cardiff, Bangor/Caernarfon Wrexham/Chester meet

fleet_admiral

afro man wrote: »

Stopped in it twice on designated bus stop on way back from old Trafford.. Big gift shop and plenty of parkin for buses.. Not a kinda place you would go out of your way to visit

Didn't know buses liked ginger cake

ILoveYourVibes

Yet Michael Gove cannot say ..Micheál Martin.

Mysterypunter

Lan fair pull Gwyn gill goger ikwin drob bullian, (could be pull ian) tissillio go go Goch. Handy enough really, the name was best explained by comedian Rich Hall who said it was founded during the great vowel shortage of the late 19th century.

Lockheed

I've been many times. Great place to stop for a rest when driving from ireland to uk

Beasty

30 January 2019

scudzilla

scudzilla wrote: »

actually know where that would belong to.

Rivalries between welsh town are also crazy, crazy scraps (mostly football related) whenever Swansea/Cardiff, Bangor/Caernarfon Wrexham/Chester meet

Ah yes, sure even half of Brazil is divided there. We're all on the edge of our seats whenever "el classico" happens!

dd973

scudzilla wrote: »

As for Anglesey....jaysus, i don't actually know where that would belong to.

Someone I knew who used to holiday there told me in all seriousness they had an antipathy towards all non-Anglesey Welsh folk, even the fellow Welsh speaking ones.

I've heard about the North/South split before, they used to sit apart on the National football team coach, I think it could stem from not having much to do with each other due to the fact that the two regions are divided by mountain ranges and are better connected to differing parts of England than with each other.

Is there an anti-Cardiff strain of feeling akin to the capitals of England and Ireland being disliked?

s1ippy

Eduard Khil wrote: »

Kerry is worse, where an inch is a mile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8TEoa6aWI

PTH2009

Only time I've been to Wales is going too Oakwood theme park , The youth club summer tour experience. Doesn't feel like another country for some reason

Theme Park was decent place but my christ Fishguard is a bit of a depressing hole. The station at the port is deplorable and you pray to board the vomit machine that is the ferry

Would love to do a tour of Wales some day

MidlanderMan

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This is actually a real place name. Has anyone been?

It's not really though. Nobody in the area uses that name. It's just Llanfairpwllgwyngyll.

biko

I've been past Muckanaghederdauhaulia.
Don't go, it's not worth it.