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Polish Presidential Election

  • 12-07-2020 7:44pm
    #1
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭


    Has anyone been following?
    It looks incredibly tight based on exit polls....but looks like Duda will scrape in.


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  • #2
    orientmen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ✭orientmen


    Trzaskowski gained couple of points after final count from large cities and abroad. Hopefully :-)


  • #3
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    orientmen wrote: »
    Trzaskowski gained couple of points after final count from large cities and abroad. Hopefully 😉
    Fingers crossed.
    Duda did better than the exit polls though in first round which is worrying.


  • #4
    orientmen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ✭orientmen


    Yet Trzaskowski gained many more points now. It's how the all other votes got distributed. It's a very close call indeed. Same as how the society is divided these days..


  • #5
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    If Trzaskowski does win, it seems it will be by a very narrow margin which Duda will probably contest. Things could get ugly.


  • #6
    orientmen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ✭orientmen


    We'll find out tomorrow. It's quite ugly anyways..


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  • #7
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,878 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Duda looks nailed on really now.
    The exit polls really show how divided Poland is...east versus west...older versus younger.
    It must be hard to compete with the state run media.
    You would have to fear for LGBT people.


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »
    Duda looks nailed on really now.
    The exit polls really show how divided Poland is...east versus west...older versus younger.
    It must be hard to compete with the state run media.
    You would have to fear for LGBT people.

    Why is everything about LGBT? Polish politics had been a nasty bit of work in the last decade. It effects everyone


  • #9
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭circadian


    SouthWesterly wrote: »
    Why is everything about LGBT? Polish politics had been a nasty bit of work in the last decade. It effects everyone

    Maybe that poster is in the LGBT community and it's something that is a lot closer to heart than it would be for others.


  • #10
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    SouthWesterly wrote: »
    Why is everything about LGBT? Polish politics had been a nasty bit of work in the last decade. It effects everyone

    Well Duda and his cohorts seem to think that the LGBT community are to blame for many of the country's ills. Being gay myself, on some level I find it perversely flattering that someone could think that a group of people who make up 3 or 4% of the population (and many of them stuck firmly in the closet because of societal attitudes there) could wield so much influence.


  • #11
    orientmen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 ✭orientmen


    It looks that polarising society pays off. They're trying to attract conservative voters. Also finding out new enemies helps with the votes. Same as Mexicans in US.. It's just nasty rethoric that unfortunately works in many countries..


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  • #12
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    trellheim wrote: »
    Yes, you could see that the prime focus was not on Brexit at the recent talks.

    Poland is moving up the EU problem table.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53538205#:~:text=Poland%20is%20to%20withdraw%20from,to%20teach%20children%20about%20gender.


  • #13
    eire4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭eire4


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Poland is moving up the EU problem table.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53538205#:~:text=Poland%20is%20to%20withdraw%20from,to%20teach%20children%20about%20gender.

    Them and Hungary. The latest move from the Polish government makes just no sense. Aside from being wrong morally obviously I mean what is the purpose even of making such a move in withdrawing from a treaty on violence against women.


  • #14
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    eire4 wrote: »
    Them and Hungary. The latest move from the Polish government makes just no sense. Aside from being wrong morally obviously I mean what is the purpose even of making such a move in withdrawing from a treaty on violence against women.

    It's all part of the trump style playbook. Pick any subject make it seem like it's PC gone mad then play it up like your putting down the PC brigade whomever that is. And being the scenes do the real stuff that you didn't want making headlines.

    Disinformation and chaos. All finely planned.


  • #15
    Gerry T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    eire4 wrote:
    Them and Hungary. The latest move from the Polish government makes just no sense. Aside from being wrong morally obviously I mean what is the purpose even of making such a move in withdrawing from a treaty on violence against women.


    There is a point, what about violence against men ? It does happen even though its a minority. Why wasn't it violence against the person ?


  • #16
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Gerry T wrote: »
    There is a point, what about violence against men ? It does happen even though its a minority. Why wasn't it violence against the person ?

    That's not the point at all. But again it's entirely not brexit related at all. But all the hall marks of brexit. Make people think they are victims . Seems this worked on you.


  • #17
    Gerry T
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    listermint wrote:
    That's not the point at all. But again it's entirely not brexit related at all. But all the hall marks of brexit. Make people think they are victims . Seems this worked on you.


    I was replying to a point, yes its not brexit related but neither is this thread. And I certainly don't feel like a victim.


  • #18
    eire4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭eire4


    Gerry T wrote: »
    There is a point, what about violence against men ? It does happen even though its a minority. Why wasn't it violence against the person ?

    Agreed it does happen there is violence against men by women but it is very much an issue where the vast majority is violence by men against women and thus the need for specific protections for women. Just like many other issues for example gay and lesbian protections we want everyone to be protected but certain groups such as in this case women have suffered particularly and thus require specific attention. I would also say the point you put forward was not put forward as an excuse by the Polish government for their abhorrent action in withdrawing from this treaty so while this may be an excuse you have it is not one put forward by the Polish government.


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