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Polish Presidential Election

  • 12-07-2020 8:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 31,797 ✭✭✭✭


    Has anyone been following?
    It looks incredibly tight based on exit polls....but looks like Duda will scrape in.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23 orientmen


    Trzaskowski gained couple of points after final count from large cities and abroad. Hopefully :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,797 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    orientmen wrote: »
    Trzaskowski gained couple of points after final count from large cities and abroad. Hopefully 😉
    Fingers crossed.
    Duda did better than the exit polls though in first round which is worrying.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 orientmen


    Yet Trzaskowski gained many more points now. It's how the all other votes got distributed. It's a very close call indeed. Same as how the society is divided these days..


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    If Trzaskowski does win, it seems it will be by a very narrow margin which Duda will probably contest. Things could get ugly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 orientmen


    We'll find out tomorrow. It's quite ugly anyways..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31,797 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Duda looks nailed on really now.
    The exit polls really show how divided Poland is...east versus west...older versus younger.
    It must be hard to compete with the state run media.
    You would have to fear for LGBT people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly


    gmisk wrote: »
    Duda looks nailed on really now.
    The exit polls really show how divided Poland is...east versus west...older versus younger.
    It must be hard to compete with the state run media.
    You would have to fear for LGBT people.

    Why is everything about LGBT? Polish politics had been a nasty bit of work in the last decade. It effects everyone


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭circadian


    Why is everything about LGBT? Polish politics had been a nasty bit of work in the last decade. It effects everyone

    Maybe that poster is in the LGBT community and it's something that is a lot closer to heart than it would be for others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Why is everything about LGBT? Polish politics had been a nasty bit of work in the last decade. It effects everyone

    Well Duda and his cohorts seem to think that the LGBT community are to blame for many of the country's ills. Being gay myself, on some level I find it perversely flattering that someone could think that a group of people who make up 3 or 4% of the population (and many of them stuck firmly in the closet because of societal attitudes there) could wield so much influence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 orientmen


    It looks that polarising society pays off. They're trying to attract conservative voters. Also finding out new enemies helps with the votes. Same as Mexicans in US.. It's just nasty rethoric that unfortunately works in many countries..


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    trellheim wrote: »
    Yes, you could see that the prime focus was not on Brexit at the recent talks.

    Poland is moving up the EU problem table.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53538205#:~:text=Poland%20is%20to%20withdraw%20from,to%20teach%20children%20about%20gender.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,622 ✭✭✭eire4



    Them and Hungary. The latest move from the Polish government makes just no sense. Aside from being wrong morally obviously I mean what is the purpose even of making such a move in withdrawing from a treaty on violence against women.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,523 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    eire4 wrote: »
    Them and Hungary. The latest move from the Polish government makes just no sense. Aside from being wrong morally obviously I mean what is the purpose even of making such a move in withdrawing from a treaty on violence against women.

    It's all part of the trump style playbook. Pick any subject make it seem like it's PC gone mad then play it up like your putting down the PC brigade whomever that is. And being the scenes do the real stuff that you didn't want making headlines.

    Disinformation and chaos. All finely planned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    eire4 wrote:
    Them and Hungary. The latest move from the Polish government makes just no sense. Aside from being wrong morally obviously I mean what is the purpose even of making such a move in withdrawing from a treaty on violence against women.


    There is a point, what about violence against men ? It does happen even though its a minority. Why wasn't it violence against the person ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,523 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Gerry T wrote: »
    There is a point, what about violence against men ? It does happen even though its a minority. Why wasn't it violence against the person ?

    That's not the point at all. But again it's entirely not brexit related at all. But all the hall marks of brexit. Make people think they are victims . Seems this worked on you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,410 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    listermint wrote:
    That's not the point at all. But again it's entirely not brexit related at all. But all the hall marks of brexit. Make people think they are victims . Seems this worked on you.


    I was replying to a point, yes its not brexit related but neither is this thread. And I certainly don't feel like a victim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,622 ✭✭✭eire4


    Gerry T wrote: »
    There is a point, what about violence against men ? It does happen even though its a minority. Why wasn't it violence against the person ?

    Agreed it does happen there is violence against men by women but it is very much an issue where the vast majority is violence by men against women and thus the need for specific protections for women. Just like many other issues for example gay and lesbian protections we want everyone to be protected but certain groups such as in this case women have suffered particularly and thus require specific attention. I would also say the point you put forward was not put forward as an excuse by the Polish government for their abhorrent action in withdrawing from this treaty so while this may be an excuse you have it is not one put forward by the Polish government.


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