Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

is_that_so

LiquidZeb wrote: »

I know you're taking the piss but where did the whole x day is usually a slow day come from? Is it something the lads here dreamt up collectively?

Oh I'm hoping for the same numbers tomorrow. Holohan did say it a few of the Mondays and that I guess is where it started from. Also Monday UK numbers can be lower so we've this idea that ours will automatically go up a good bit tomorrow.

ACitizenErased

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

I have an issue with some of your posts which I'm replying to here.

this is the covid thread, it's for covid things not me

stephenjmcd

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Ordinarily I'd fully agree but they just said that the Dept of Health said they expect the number to rise tomorrow due to reduced testing over the weekend.

number could well rise but reduced testing is bs. Around 9k tests each day Saturday and Sunday which is around the same as weekdays

polesheep

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I see that:

Dr Glynn added: "We are now seeing outbreaks of the virus in a range of work settings, including in construction, in fast food outlets and in supermarkets. I would remind all employers that the workplace and most particularly, shops, services and supermarkets, are the new front line, we are asking you to do everything you can to put the safety of your staff and customers first. With the increase in outbreaks in our communities, I would urge everyone to wear face coverings in healthcare settings and when shopping, including in the supermarket and other indoor retail services."

In case we didn't catch it the first or second time, his use of the word supermarket for the third time suggests that it appears to be spreading now in supermarkets more than it used to in the last few months? What's going on here - were there supermarket clusters in last few days?

It's classic PR. People have been saying that the supermarkets have been safe, so why wear masks in the supermarket. So push the supermarket angle.

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

this is the covid thread, it's for covid things not me

Yes and I'm criticising some of your Covid posts.

ACitizenErased

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Ordinarily I'd fully agree but they just said that the Dept of Health said they expect the number to rise tomorrow due to reduced testing over the weekend.

The only thing that actually reduces over the weekend is the number of swabs taken, which makes sense clearly as people don't want to be taking swabs at the weekends The HSE daily testing update shows that actual lab testing is at it's lowest Tuesday and Wednesday and gradually increases up to Mondays before dropping.

JP Liz V1

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nope, young lads and young ones will still socialise, no pubs open so house parties are 1 of only a few options.

Do they really need to meet up drunk in large groups, 5 or 6 in an open space like a park, distancing, everyone has a responsibility to act accordingly, to stay safe

Eod100

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That Dublin construction outbreak has over 20 cases.

Just surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Nature of the work means social distancing in practice very difficult.

LiquidZeb

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Yes and I'm criticising some of your Covid posts.

Well set up a thread to discuss and critique Citizens posts then or contact a mod.

Wild Field 1831

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Well set up a thread to discuss and critique Citizens posts then or contact a mod.

I think you'll find there's a reply button. You can use this function to reply to another poster if you disagree. It's the basis of most fora.

Jim_Hodge

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The only thing that actually reduces over the weekend is the number of swabs taken, which makes sense clearly as people don't want to be taking swabs at the weekends The HSE daily testing update shows that actual lab testing is at it's lowest Tuesday and Wednesday and gradually increases up to Mondays before dropping.

:rolleyes: Yes, as said, reduced weekend testing and they expect increased numbers tomorrow as a result.

Just repeating what they said. Don't take it personally,

is_that_so

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

There are some posters who only use the thread infrequently and don't immerse themselves in Covid news 24/7.

I just joined boards.ie a few days ago, a long time lurker, and it seems you treat this thread as some sort of personal fiefdom.

Yesterday I made a comment that I wear masks in indoor settings but feel faint and uncomfortable.

You posted a general post to the effect that.. are there posters seriously saying masks are unhelpful, that you had asthma and they didn't annoy you..

I have a respiratory illness and find them really heavy going for long periods of time, especially in my work environment. There's varying degrees of respiratory illness. As individuals we are free to post how masks make us feel etc. At no time did I suggest wearing masks wasn't helpful in the overall prevention of Covid.

It would be helpful if you left your bullying attitude offline. People have varying degrees of knowledge on Covid. Some haven't the time to be online constantly or haven't the desire.

TBF to that poster it was an expression of consternation at other comments. Try not to take what you read here personally even if people seem to be having a go at you. Just skip past those posts and you'll stay sane. Most posters want to engage in discussion but may have a robust way of doing so. The purely antagonistic trolls are a very small minority.

ACitizenErased

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

:rolleyes: Yes, as said, reduced weekend testing and they expect increased numbers tomorrow as a result.

Just repeating what they said. Don't take it personally,

I'm not taking it personally. And it's reduced swabs taken, not reduced testing.

KrustyUCC

Wonder why they're pushing a weekend lag if it doesn't exist?

polesheep

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You could see it on that RTE doc - Inside Ireland's Covid Battle - the toll it was taking on doctors and nurses. And even when restrictions started to lift and people were back out and about, some being lose with the guidance, they were still in the trenches every day.

But the healthcare workers being tested seem to be nursing and care home workers. There is no such testing going on with hospital staff unless they show symptoms.

expectationlost

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Wonder why they're pushing a weekend lag if it doesn't exist?

the journos were the ones who brought it up, Glynn actually said the weekend lag relates more to deaths, there might be a people based weekend lag.

petes

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

I think you'll find there's a reply button. You can use this function to reply to another poster if you disagree. It's the basis of most fora.

Avid reader here, saw nothing bullying in any post, seriously, people will read in to things far too easily these days!

To someone asking about where did this 'lag' idea come from. Think it was to do with deaths and Tuesdays number would usually be higher due to reporting at weekends.

KrustyUCC

expectationlost wrote: »

the journos were the ones who brought it up, Glynn actually said the weekend lag relates more to deaths, there might be a people based weekend lag.

Ah OK thanks

Jim_Hodge

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm not taking it personally. And it's reduced swabs taken, not reduced testing.

Sorry, semantics. Sabs are taken when one goes for a test - has a test done.

This is playing with words when the meaning to Joe Public is quite clear.

Good luck.

redmgar

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

There are some posters who only use the thread infrequently and don't immerse themselves in Covid news 24/7.

I just joined boards.ie a few days ago, a long time lurker, and it seems you treat this thread as some sort of personal fiefdom.

Yesterday I made a comment that I wear masks in indoor settings but feel faint and uncomfortable.

You posted a general post to the effect that.. are there posters seriously saying masks are unhelpful, that you had asthma and they didn't annoy you..

I have a respiratory illness and find them really heavy going for long periods of time, especially in my work environment. There's varying degrees of respiratory illness. As individuals we are free to post how masks make us feel etc. At no time did I suggest wearing masks wasn't helpful in the overall prevention of Covid.

It would be helpful if you left your bullying attitude offline. People have varying degrees of knowledge on Covid. Some haven't the time to be online constantly or haven't the desire.

How dare you not fully commit to the thread, coming on here with you amateur opinions and out of date figures? You need to live on boards for your opinion to be of importance.

Jim_Hodge

expectationlost wrote: »

the journos were the ones who brought it up, Glynn actually said the weekend lag relates more to deaths, there might be a people based weekend lag.

They clearly said they expect a rise tomorrow in cases, unfortunately .

stephenjmcd

Eod100 wrote: »

Just surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Nature of the work means social distancing in practice very difficult.

Likewise, open for what a month and a half or more ? Surprised it took this long

petes

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

They clearly said they expect a rise tomorrow in cases, unfortunately .

Well if 20 cases relate to the construction site of course there will be a rise.... that part is explainable though.

Non solum non ambulabit

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Explains the difference in numbers coming from HPSC in the last week and a half so.

Was this said at the press conference? Not watching it this evening myself

Yes. In his opening statement

expectationlost

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

They clearly said they expect a rise tomorrow in cases, unfortunately .

he said that in relation to the townsend cluster

expectationlost

briefing video https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMKgXlWeQOGL

ShyMets

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

I have an issue with some of your posts which I'm replying to here.

So will it be pistols or swords at dawn.

Eod100

I know delaying pubs reopening by at least 3 was viewed as controversial but could it work out in our favour long-term for everyone?

If cases get as low as possible over next few weeks, pubs could be in a better position to reopen and public could be more comfortable and confident to go out socialising.

Think it's better to delay restrictions then do stop, start reopenings which would be bad economically but also public morale and buy-in.

Wild Field 1831

redmgar wrote: »

How dare you not fully commit to the thread, coming on here with you amateur opinions and out of date figures? You need to live on boards for your opinion to be of importance.

Apparently if you want to criticise a post you no longer reply to that post. As this could be construed as personal, to whoever you are replying to.

Liquid Zeb has outlined the correct procedure for me. You start a thread entitled 'I'm criticising posts by (insert username). It's very time efficient for all concerned and the moderators love it

Wild Field 1831

ShyMets wrote: »

So will it be pistols or swords at dawn.

I'll have my seconds at the ready with disinfectant..