Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Vicxas

Great news, sounds like a lot of companies are hitting phase 3 successfully.

big syke

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The article literally states the side effects disappeared when paracetemol was used

Ah we don't let that get in the way of a good negative post.

Boggles

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The article literally states the side effects disappeared when paracetemol was used

No it didn't, the article literally stated

There were no dangerous side-effects from taking the vaccine, however, 70% of people on the trial developed either fever or headache.

The researchers say this could be managed with paracetamol.

Which is standard treatment for symptoms.

The types of symptoms wasn't my point, it was the level of people in the study that experienced them.

It also literally stated.

Prof Sarah Gilbert, form the University of Oxford, UK, says: "There is still much work to be done before we can confirm if our vaccine will help manage the COVID-19 pandemic, but these early results hold promise."

big syke

Boggles wrote: »

No it didn't, the article literally stated



Which is standard treatment for symptoms.

The types of symptoms wasn't my point, it was the level of people in the study that experienced them.

Maybe don't look at a BBC article and look at the published paper.

"headaches were reported in the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 group by 331 (68%) participants without paracetamol and 34 (61%) with paracetamol and in
the MenACWY group by 195 (41%) participants without paracetamol and 21 (37%) participants with paracetamol."

Here is the tricky part = 331+34+195+21 = 581

581 is around 50% which is <70% and about the same amount for the flu jab, MMR etc and can be managed with OTC pain killer.

ACitizenErased

It’s grand the random Boards poster who disagrees with everyone stated it’s not all good news despite every major news organisation claiming it is

ACitizenErased

LATEST TESTING DATA
48hr period

Tests conducted last 48hrs: 17,091
Tests conducted last 7 days: 50,860
Positive tests last 48hrs: 44
Positivity rate last 7 days: 0.3%

Boggles

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It’s grand the random Boards poster who disagrees with everyone stated it’s not all good news despite every major news organisation claiming it is

I was echoing you know the actual lady who is helping developing the vaccine.

There is still much work to be done before we can confirm if our vaccine will help manage the COVID-19 pandemic, but these early results hold promise.

But of course you been the resident expert on absolutely everything Covid related on here would know more than her.

US2

44 not looking good

big syke

US2 wrote: »

44 not looking good

2 days worth.

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

It looks promising. But I wouldn't be getting to carried away yet.

The results so far are based off a 1000 people.

They were selected because they are 1000 very healthy people.

The people who need it the most don't normally have the same immunity response as fit and healthy people.



TBF, that's a high portion of people developing any sort of side effect for a vaccine.

All though I imagine mild.

Are you a doctor or a scientist. Great to have someone knowledgeable about to keep us all right.

Stheno

US2 wrote: »

44 not looking good

That's over 48 hours, so 24 each day?

thelad95

thelad95 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-construction-site-closes-after-workers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-1.4308678?mode=amp

Construction sites could become the new meat factory. Zero social distancing between workers (often not the most intelligent of people).

Londis near me, workers all in getting lunch every day on top of each other, then sit outside eating together. Understandable that if one gets it, it'll spread like wildfire.

Hope this post doesn't surface the next time you need a job done on your house

Rob A. Bank

LIVE: World Health Organization holds a coronavirus briefing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYBWOk64dw

KrustyUCC

US2 wrote: »

44 not looking good

That was my first reaction but thankfully 48hr period

Eod100

Eod100 wrote: »

We won't hear the end of it from the UK but feck it small price to pay for a successful vaccine

Twas brexit what done it!

KrustyUCC

0.26% positive rate in that 48 hours

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you a doctor or a scientist. Great to have someone knowledgeable about to keep us all right.

No. As far as I know their is only one scientist that contributes on here and it certainly isn't me.

But I do listen to scientists and doctors, including the people developing the vaccine, none of them have stated that X vaccine will be definitely approved.

It's why countries like the UK are hedging their bets.

The British government said in a statement Monday that it had secured access to a vaccine candidate being developed by a Pfizer and BioNTech, in addition to another experimental vaccine researched by Valneva.

Britain had previously signed a deal with AstraZeneca to provide 100 million doses of the coronavirus vaccine being tested by Oxford University, which is expected to announce further results later Monday.

But of course if you point that out you are doom mongering lunatic according to a few individuals on here.

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

It looks promising. But I wouldn't be getting to carried away yet.

The results so far are based off a 1000 people.

They were selected because they are 1000 very healthy people.

The people who need it the most don't normally have the same immunity response as fit and healthy people.



TBF, that's a high portion of people developing any sort of side effect for a vaccine.

All though I imagine mild.

Side effects of a vaccine is a good thing as long as they are minor. The purpose of a vaccine are to trigger immune response such as fever.

US2

US2 wrote: »

44 not looking good

48 hours -steady as she goes

Hrududu

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hope this post doesn't surface the next time you need a job done on your house

“Ok so, the extension will be single story? That’s grand I’ll pop round on Saturday to take a first look, but before that can you let me know what your boards username is? ..... Yeah just want to look through your history...see if you’ve ever disparaged builders. You may as well let me know your reddit username while you’re at it.”

cnocbui

British pharmaceutical company Synairge claims its new respiratory coronavirus treatment has reduced the number of hospitalized Covid-19 patients needing intensive care in a clinical trial.

The company said its nebulizer treatment produced a 79% lower risk of patients developing severe disease than those given a placebo in initial trials. It said patients who received the treatment “were more than twice as likely to recover (defined as ‘no limitation of activities’ or ‘no clinical or virological evidence of infection’) over the course of the treatment period compared to those receiving placebo.”

The study has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal and has not released the full data.

The drug, SNG001, is a formulation of a naturally occurring antiviral protein called interferon beta that’s inhaled directly into the lungs in the hope of stimulating an immune response. The treatment is aimed at preventing infected patients deteriorating from requiring oxygen to being placed on a ventilator.

“This assessment of SNG001 in Covid-19 patients could signal a major breakthrough in the treatment of hospitalized Covid-19 patients,” said Synairgen CEO Richard Marsden.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/20/synairgen-says-small-coronavirus-treatment-trial-could-signal-major-breakthrough.html

Johnny7136

bb1234567 wrote: »

Why a year? Why is this arbitrary period any more significant than another, why don't we wait 3 years? Or ten ?

Well you havnt been listening to the news much have you. Plenty of regions of the world appear more than prepared to go into second lockdowns, Melbourne for example..
Don't even know what you're trying to get at about the minus excess deaths in the U.K but it's just another blatant lie among a long list. You won't hear George lee reporting it as it's not true . Excess deaths in the U.K. Are tens of thousands above normal , it is the highest excess deaths the country has experienced since ww2 .

I think usually we wait a year to compare excess deaths. There now going into minus figures on previous years because a lot of people that died may have died anyway this year. They may we'll balance out over the year.

And is it right what's happening in Melbourne. Not to me it's not

What Username Guidelines

Stheno wrote: »

That's over 48 hours, so 24 each day?

Hrududu

Hrududu wrote: »

“Ok so, the extension will be single story? That’s grand I’ll pop round on Saturday to take a first look, but before that can you let me know what your boards username is? ..... Yeah just want to look through your history...see if you’ve ever disparaged builders. You may as well let me know your reddit username while you’re at it.”

Does every post need to be marked with an emoji of some sort to avoid the risk of being taken literally by those who wish to find the objectionable in everything? Even when exaggerating to make a point about posters choosing to denigrate a whole sector of society?

seamus

KrustyUCC wrote: »

0.26% positive rate in that 48 hours

99.74% of tests we're doing are negative.

To paraphrase something I read somewhere else; we are effectively lifting up rocks and trimming the long grass, hunting down this thing. And still coming back with very little.

Some of the numbers should give us cause for concern, but we should also take solace that our aggressive testing levels will make it very hard to lose control again.

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote:

Does every post need to be marked with an emoji of some sort to avoid the risk of being taken literally by those who wish to find the objectionable in everything? Even when exaggerating to make a point about posters choosing to denigrate a whole sector of society?

There's a lot of people in here to have a serious discussion about covid-19.

Wild Field 1831

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads those Oxford results are seriously impressive. We’ll deffo be on track by end of year.

Positive but a long way to go.

That's a sweeping statement regarding being on track by the end of the year. You don't know how long each trial phase will take.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

There's a lot of people in here to have a serious discussion about covid-19.

And its a serious discussion when someone denigrates an entire section of society as "not the most intelligent people", while its objectionable to call someone out on that?

iamwhoiam

I don’t know much about Pharma and how it works . If one company or Uni find a vaccine that works do they sell the “recipe “ to other companys then ?

podgeandrodge

podgeandrodge wrote: »

The food thing was a sop to some pubs that could act as restaurants for the few weeks before everyone else opened up. Now that they have stopped pubs in general opening up for a longer period, it seems unfair that serving up a curry allows the others to stay open. It's either safe or not safe to sit in a bar, and this idea that having the plate of food is keeping us all acting in a safer manner is nonsense!

If a bar can demonstrate that it has complete capacity to properly impose social distancing it should be allowed in same way as pubs with food imo. I know many will disagree. And agree...

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The virus changes thanks to €9 food being served lol

rubadub wrote: »

on average I bet it does. Laws stating a food requirement have been in place for over 50 years, nothing new.

I was asking others what law they would have put in place to differentiate between a pub and a restaurant? I think the meal thing does it well.

Restaurants are allowed open in areas where a pub would have no hope of getting permission.

I don't see the question of what would be put in place to differentiate between a pub and a restaurant as material.

I have seen zero impact of the meal, other than that the pubs that are open and serving food have to ensure that their customers social distance. The meal is not changing the behaviour, at least in any pubs that I have been in over the last few weeks. That's not to say the behaviour is in any way poor, just that people aren't acting differently because they have some ribs and curry in front of them.

Apart from talking with their mouths full and spreading more virus :pac: