Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

ACitizenErased

133 cases in the last 7 days - a breakdown.
Healthcare Workers account for 44%.
49% arose in Dublin.
13% arose in Kildare.
The rest are below 10%.

ACitizenErased

PopTarts wrote: »

Quote: ACitizenErased
Analysis of cases as of midnight Tuesday 14th July - 25,677 cases (+8)

Healthcare Workers +11
Clusters +43
Cases associated with clusters +143


What do these numbers represent if there was an increase of 8 cases and the numbers are +11 / + 43 etc

+8 new cases, the remainder are combination of both new and old

is_that_so

stephenjmcd wrote: »

And yet nobody questions this ? But sure its everyone else's fault, independent ran a headline this morning basically laying the blame at young people

It's a very long line of people at fault. Eventually the attempted shaming becomes utterly cliched. Really, it's just angry and often frightened people lashing out.

ACitizenErased

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Maybe I’m stupid but if it’s 8 new cases, how is there 11 new healthcare workers infected and 140 odd New cluster cases?

There was 14 cases yesterday and 6 denotifications = 8 new



Cluster cases are added after contact tracing

Non solum non ambulabit

stephenjmcd wrote: »

And yet nobody questions this ? But sure its everyone else's fault, independent ran a headline this morning basically laying the blame at young people

With 3300 people hospitalised we should not have 8300+ health workers infected. Even including nursing homes that is shocking.

prunudo

ACitizenErased wrote: »

133 cases in the last 7 days - a breakdown.
Healthcare Workers account for 44%.
49% arose in Dublin.
13% arose in Kildare.
The rest are below 10%.

I knew we were being sold a pup with last nights developments but those figures bring it home.

Non solum non ambulabit

Do we know what number of our deaths are suspected cases and what number are confirmed cases. Is that reported anywhere?

timsey tiger

fritzelly wrote: »

Because other countries have had cases in bars (tiny amount) that is a reason not to open them here

Well, yes it is. Unless you believe we have magic bars where the crack is too strong for the covid, or you think bars are some kind of essential service.

is_that_so

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

I've a lot of time for Zara King. She asks questions that make snarky f*ckers on the internet roll their eyes but that people in the real world want to know the answers to.

You mean when we had north of 300 cases and she wanted to know about hairdressers?

US2

timsey tiger wrote: »

Well, yes it is. Unless you believe we have magic bars where the crack is too strong for the covid, or you think bars are some kind of essential service.

They're as essential as restaurants and gastro bars!!

timsey tiger

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do the Healy Raes have a pub or two themselves?

Yes at least one. They have been going on about letting people drink drive for years and now this shyte.

Renjit

US2 wrote: »

Ive holiday in 11 days time. Flight still going ahead to Barcelona. I wonder how or if the essential part will be enforced.

Bring some sweets.

fritzelly

is_that_so wrote: »

You mean when we had north of 300 cases and she wanted to know about hairdressers?

Or giggling while reading out the number of deaths

timsey tiger

US2 wrote: »

There as essential as restaurants and gastro bars!!

I'm not the one saying 2 legs good four legs bad. I'm part of project fear don't you know so obviously I'd close the lot.

is_that_so

fritzelly wrote: »

Or giggling while reading out the number of deaths

That I am glad I missed. TBF few if any of them have been any good in their questioning.

US2

Renjit wrote: »

Bring some sweets.

I'm lost here. What do you mean ?

Pete_Cavan

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Do we know what number of our deaths are suspected cases and what number are confirmed cases. Is that reported anywhere?

It doesn't seem to be reported but it really should be. We seem to be denotifying a ridiculous number of deaths. Going by the The reported Island of Ireland numbers thread stickied here, since 27 June we have announced 30 deaths but denotified 13 in that time. There is something wrong with classification method if we have to denotify so many.

MickeyLeari

I was reading there about the R rate. They are saying their best estimate is that it is 1.5 but that it could be as high as 1.8. Does that mean it could be as low as 1.2 if they are looking at a margin of error?

is_that_so

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

It doesn't seem to be reported but it really should be. We seem to be denotifying a ridiculous number of deaths. Going by the The reported Island of Ireland numbers thread stickied here, since 27 June we have announced 30 deaths but denotified 13 in that time. There is something wrong with classification method if we have to denotify so many.

Our reported deaths include all possible COVID-19 deaths as well. Some turn out not to be and are denotified but it's good to record that data anyway.

Renjit

Hurrache wrote: »

"100% safe environment" he claims. Is it hermetically sealed and everyone is tested negative before entry?

Even the hand sanitizers have 99% guarantee :pac: I like his confidence. It's infectious.

Eod100

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do the Healy Raes have a pub or two themselves?

At least 1 afaik

Arghus

is_that_so wrote: »

You mean when we had north of 300 cases and she wanted to know about hairdressers?

Or when she asked Tony was he going to make an announcement about a vaccine.

US2

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

It doesn't seem to be reported but it really should be. We seem to be denotifying a ridiculous number of deaths. Going by the The reported Island of Ireland numbers thread stickied here, since 27 June we have announced 30 deaths but denotified 13 in that time. There is something wrong with classification method if we have to denotify so many.

They count deaths even with no test carried out, and people who died with covid but not from it.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1278995351169613824?s=19

polesheep

Hurrache wrote: »

Stupid people are stupid people, even if we lived in a dictatorship.

It's more than that. The government has pandered to the fearful who want mandatory masks and retention of restrictions. They didn't have to as that group will always adhere to whatever restrictions are in place. The group that they really ned to keep on board is the very group that they are admonishing like bold children at every turn... the youth. If the youth decide that they have had enough it could all fall asunder. And a hell of a lot of young people won't consider that lad stupid at all, in fact, some will think he's great.

polesheep

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Two self obsessed idiots. A huge loss to any government.

Theyd lose far more people if they pandered to the idiots.

But they wouldn't, as most people are willing to follow the restrictions. They don't have to lose many for this to fall apart. Even if 100% of the people they lose are idiots.

Non solum non ambulabit

is_that_so wrote: »

Our reported deaths include all possible COVID-19 deaths as well. Some turn out not to be and are denotified but it's good to record that data anyway.

It is but it would also be great to see the split between suspected and confirmed deaths. With the low case numbers of late I suspect alot of the deaths lately are suspected cases and not confirmed cases. That data would be very helpful.

Pete_Cavan

is_that_so wrote: »

Our reported deaths include all possible COVID-19 deaths as well. Some turn out not to be and are denotified but it's good to record that data anyway.

Or we could just count the suspected deaths separately and include them in the deaths tally once confirmed. We had a suspected deaths figure early on but dropped it. The deaths announced are inflated if they include suspected cases. We had the ridiculous situation last week where we had minus deaths!

podgeandrodge

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Neither would I. Take away it's pubs the way it was handled was very unfair.

Could Whelans not have rustled up some food in any event?

Hurrache

polesheep wrote: »

It's more than that. The government has pandered to the fearful who want mandatory masks and retention of restrictions. They didn't have to as that group will always adhere to whatever restrictions are in place. The group that they really ned to keep on board is the very group that they are admonishing like bold children at every turn... the youth. If the youth decide that they have had enough it could all fall asunder. And a hell of a lot of young people won't consider that lad stupid at all, in fact, some will think he's great.

No, it's just stupid people.

Harry Palmr

Eod100 wrote: »

Who needs a vaccine eh?!

https://twitter.com/MallowNews/status/1283791581733163010

I'm just checking to be sure, you know that is the Cork version of Waterford Whispers don't you?