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Not caring about my health

  • 25-06-2020 4:13pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭


    Hi, just looking for some opinions please.

    I've got a serious lung issue. I've nearly died from it in the past, spent a lot of time in hospital and am under the care of a respiratory team on a constant basis, where my condition is managed well. I attend hospital every couple of weeks for medical treatment which can only be administered by a medical professional, as well as taking medicine, nebuliser at home. It's a bit of a hassle going to hospital all the time, but I've been doing it for so many years that I'm used to it and as I said, my condition is managed well. It's so well in fact that most people wouldn't even know that I have the condition, unless I tell them.

    Because of Covid-19, I've been told by medical staff that I'm in the extremely vulnerable category. I was even told last week by my respiratory consultant that I'm not to go into people's houses but that outdoor BBQs (socially distanced) and walks are fine.

    And herein lies the problem. I've told this to a particular person who is very close to me, let's call her Kate. Kate thinks I'm being OTT. Kate knows my past history with my illness but during the times I was at death's door, Kate lived abroad and didn't physically see me sick. Kate knows I get set backs every so often. Two weeks ago I was sick for example but I got over it.

    Katie's kids are the same age as my kids and our kids are really close. Kate wants my children to go to her house on a play date. Kate and her family no longer socially distance and believes the virus cannot be got by children. She has many children from her estate in and out of her home daily. Today she messaged me asking for my daughter to go to her house.

    I replied saying I'm happy to do so, as long as it is an outdoor play date. Kate responded to me that I'm essentially being OTT, that my kids have more of a chance of catching flu, that covid19 is essentially gone in the community. I explained that if I catch it, I'm a gonner. Kate said kids can't catch it. I disagreed. She argued back.

    I am just so upset since the interaction. It was a full blown debate. She KNOWS my medical issues, she knows I'm a bag of nerves. I told her I'm not opposed to outdoor play dates but it's not good enough to her.

    I feel like she doesn't care about my health issues, my worries or concerns and I feel like I've nowhere to turn. Please bear in mind that for reasons I cannot disclose, I cannot just ignore this woman and move on. Kate is going to another county with her family this weekend to stay in someone else's house with their family (who I'd also be close with). She's very lax about covid. Seems everyone is, except me.

    Am I being ridiculous? I mean, I feel I cannot ignore what my consultant is telling me! Kate thinks I'm a massive drama queen and to be honest I feel so bullied by today's messages and blatant disregard for my feelings by her. Maybe I'm over-reacting. I haven't said anything to her about feeling this way. I wouldn't dare. She's a much stronger personality than me.


Comments

  • Posts: 3,637 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kate is a moron. Stop letting your kids go to her house and vice versa. If you’re at such risk, ignore fools like her and look after yourself so your children don’t lose their mother. To hell with what Kate or people like her think. You are dead right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    JayZeus wrote: »
    Kate is a moron. Stop letting your kids go to her house and vice versa. If you’re at such risk, ignore fools like her and look after yourself so your children don’t lose their mother. To hell with what Kate or people like her think. You are dead right.

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Ask Kate for a copy of her medical degree!

    Tell her you have been given strict advice by experts and that you are listening to it because it would be a fool to ignore it.

    Her selfishness and ignorance is astounding.

    Take care of yourself & to hell with what anyone else thinks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Ask Kate for a copy of her medical degree!

    Tell her you have been given strict advice by experts and that you are listening to it because it would be a fool to ignore it.

    Her selfishness and ignorance is astounding.

    Take care of yourself & to hell with what anyone else thinks.

    Yes, I agree. Kate argued the most recent medical expert she watched on TV said kids under 15 cannot get covid 19. Nothing I counter argued registered with her and her opinion appears to remain steadfast - that kids under 15 cannot get covid 19 and so, I'm essentially unreasonable not letting my kids go into her house and vice versa. Doesnt matter that there's a high chance I may not survive catching the infection. Really feel like I mean nothing to this woman and my illness is something to be debated or questioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Yes, I agree. Kate argued the most recent medical expert she watched on TV said kids under 15 cannot get covid 19. Nothing I counter argued registered with her and her opinion appears to remain steadfast - that kids under 15 cannot get covid 19 and so, I'm essentially unreasonable not letting my kids go into her house and vice versa. Doesnt matter that there's a high chance I may not survive catching the infection. Really feel like I mean nothing to this woman and my illness is something to be debated or questioned.

    Well she’s obviously completely wrong there because there have been a good number of children only diagnosed in Ireland in the last few weeks. She’s talking rubbish and she needs to understand and respect your concerns. I would just keep well away from this woman to be honest - doesn’t sound like much of a friend to me the way she’s carrying on. I’d be worried that if you did let your kids go to her house to play outside that she would still have them in the house anyway if you weren’t there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭bitofabind


    What's that Mark Twain quote about never arguing with stupid people. Honestly, she sounds like those Trump-supporting clowns in the US refusing to wear face-masks because it infringes on their "freedom".

    I think some drastic measures are necessary here and I think you should strongly consider ditching this woman from your life entirely. I'm sure that would come with significant discomfort and awkwardness given your kids' friendships, but it comes down to your health versus your friendship with her. That's the bottom line.

    I'd advise ignoring her, not responding to any further communication (you'll never win with people this ignorant) and if anyone asks, you can tell them you made a decision to prioritise your health and that's all there is to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    bitofabind wrote: »
    What's that Mark Twain quote about never arguing with stupid people. Honestly, she sounds like those Trump-supporting clowns in the US refusing to wear face-masks because it infringes on their "freedom".

    I think some drastic measures are necessary here and I think you should strongly consider ditching this woman from your life entirely. I'm sure that would come with significant discomfort and awkwardness given your kids' friendships, but it comes down to your health versus your friendship with her. That's the bottom line.

    I'd advise ignoring her, not responding to any further communication (you'll never win with people this ignorant) and if anyone asks, you can tell them you made a decision to prioritise your health and that's all there is to it.

    Thanks. Yes, I know the mark twain quote - very apt.
    I can't ditch her. I won't go into details why but it isn't an option. However, I am not going to engage further on the matter with her at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    "gone from the community". With an attitude like that, it will be someone like that spreading it in the community.

    You owe her nothing, to fcuk with her, look after yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    "gone from the community". With an attitude like that, it will be someone like that spreading it in the community.

    You owe her nothing, to fcuk with her, look after yourself.

    Yep. Told me I had a 1:1,000,000 chance of contracting it. It's gone, under 15s can't catch it coz their systems aren't developed enough or sthg to catch it. And she said that the only people in reality who die from it are overweight men over 50. Despite me repeating that I'm extreme vulnerable and outcome would likely not be good for someone like me. I asked medics a few wks ago if anyone else in the country with my condition caught Covid-19. I was told that two others had and are or were in ICU. I told Kate this. She ignored that statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    I didn’t see my own kids for weeks at a time during the last few months because my ex is deemed in an at risk category and I was working and still mixing with others and when I did see them we had distance.
    Better safe than sorry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    XsApollo wrote: »
    I didn’t see my own kids for weeks at a time during the last few months because my ex is deemed in an at risk category and I was working and still mixing with others and when I did see them we had distance.
    Better safe than sorry.

    Fair play to you. You're a considerate person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭the14thwarrior


    alas Kate is one of those people who has to remain in your life.
    So make it work better
    really suggest changing your tack of communication with her.
    If she wants to be so stupid about the whole thing, go ahead and let her be stupid. Just don't go along with it. Don't expose yourself or your family.
    I like to think of it as "lowering your risk".

    there really is no point in arguing or debating the issue with her.
    she'll have an answer for you.
    you could soften the blow by saying "the risk is a lot lower these days i do agree" or something to that effect, but end a very short conversation by saying something like " I'm happy with my choice, i'm happy with my decision" and for peats sake just let it go.

    You don't have to win your argument with her over your vulnerability or your disease. You know you are high risk. You know you have a disease.

    The truth is everyone is entitled to make the best decision for them, for their family.
    You don't need her to agree with you on this.
    you just have to do what is right for you

    if she stuck her finger in the fire would you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    alas Kate is one of those people who has to remain in your life.
    So make it work better
    really suggest changing your tack of communication with her.
    If she wants to be so stupid about the whole thing, go ahead and let her be stupid. Just don't go along with it. Don't expose yourself or your family.
    I like to think of it as "lowering your risk".

    there really is no point in arguing or debating the issue with her.
    she'll have an answer for you.
    you could soften the blow by saying "the risk is a lot lower these days i do agree" or something to that effect, but end a very short conversation by saying something like " I'm happy with my choice, i'm happy with my decision" and for peats sake just let it go.

    You don't have to win your argument with her over your vulnerability or your disease. You know you are high risk. You know you have a disease.

    The truth is everyone is entitled to make the best decision for them, for their family.
    You don't need her to agree with you on this.
    you just have to do what is right for you

    if she stuck her finger in the fire would you?

    Great post and great advice. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Kayleen


    I rarely post on Boards but tonight felt compelled to... Unless you have walked in someone’s shoes you are absolutely 100% unqualified to comment!

    Simple as that.

    Kate has not walked in your shoes.
    Kate has NO CLUE!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Kayleen wrote: »
    I rarely post on Boards but tonight felt compelled to... Unless you have walked in someone’s shoes you are absolutely 100% unqualified to comment!

    Simple as that.

    Kate has not walked in your shoes.
    Kate has NO CLUE!
    Thanks, I agree. V good point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭Muppet Man


    stay the hell away from kate and her kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    Don't get into arguments with her, its an utter waste of time and energy, just say no. End of discussion. There is no point in trying to argue with people like that. Other people aren't going to care about your health as much as you care about it so look after yourself first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I think your worrying about your health is becoming a problem, its very hypothetical that you will contract covid now, has your area seen a spike in cases? Kate - she is actually trying to help you and your kids who have been isolating and maybe a bit of compassion with yourself first would work wonders talk to a medial professional who will tell you whether or not to socialise your kids and reconnect they deserve it and so do you.

    You will need to find a balance that works for you and your kids over the next few years but arguing over something that might or might not happen does not make sense, cases are low we are being told this on the news for that reason, if we had 1000s of cases still it would be a valid argument to not allow your children to socialise but there simply isn't enough transmissions happening anymore.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    I think your worrying about your health is becoming a problem, its very hypothetical that you will contract covid now, has your area seen a spike in cases? Kate - she is actually trying to help you and your kids who have been isolating and maybe a bit of compassion with yourself first would work wonders talk to a medial professional who will tell you whether or not to socialise your kids and reconnect they deserve it and so do you.

    You will need to find a balance that works for you and your kids over the next few years but arguing over something that might or might not happen does not make sense, cases are low we are being told this on the news for that reason, if we had 1000s of cases still it would be a valid argument to not allow your children to socialise but there simply isn't enough transmissions happening anymore.


    With respect, JJJJNR, you sound like someone with no health issues.
    I have mild health issues and I still feel like it's better to wait it out a bit longer.


    The OP has obviously taken the advice of her healthcare specialist seriously, as she should.


    It doesn't matter that the chances of catching it are less and less as time goes on - a small risk is still a risk.

    Definitely not worth the risk if what you are risking is your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    I think your worrying about your health is becoming a problem, its very hypothetical that you will contract covid now, has your area seen a spike in cases? Kate - she is actually trying to help you and your kids who have been isolating and maybe a bit of compassion with yourself first would work wonders talk to a medial professional who will tell you whether or not to socialise your kids and reconnect they deserve it and so do you.

    You will need to find a balance that works for you and your kids over the next few years but arguing over something that might or might not happen does not make sense, cases are low we are being told this on the news for that reason, if we had 1000s of cases still it would be a valid argument to not allow your children to socialise but there simply isn't enough transmissions happening anymore.

    I am solely going on the advice of my respiratory professor. I'm not deciding to do this of my own accord or to be anti-social. Of course I'd love if my kids could be back to normal as though there's no virus out there, but if they catch it and pass it on to me, they will have no mother. There were reported cases in my immediate area up until about 10 days ago. There are a lot of asymptomatic cases too. My have been to back gardens and out for walks, I'm not a total recluse. I have said to Kate that I'm happy with outdoor play dates but this does not make Kate happy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    With respect, JJJJNR, you sound like someone with no health issues.
    I have mild health issues and I still feel like it's better to wait it out a bit longer.


    The OP has obviously taken the advice of her healthcare specialist seriously, as she should.


    It doesn't matter that the chances of catching it are less and less as time goes on - a small risk is still a risk.

    Definitely not worth the risk if what you are risking is your life.

    Thanks to the lock down I'm fitter now then ever yes, but have underlying health issues like the majority of people out there, and I'm working in an environment where I need to take this threat very seriously, it never stopped me from having activities lined up though.

    OP needs to line up the positives and the negatives themselves, families need to decide for themselves (obviously with advice from a professional) if keeping their children isolated is in their best long term interests kids are social and I don't see the harm with some relaxation with visits to friends under advice.

    The real problem i.e. Covid does not exist in the same magnitude as it did 4 months ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Many people like this aren't as upfront. You're lucky she lacks the nuance to be so that you can choose to behave accordingly.

    A neighbour of mine who wants to have a BBQ the last while with us (he knows we have two high risk people and four elderly parents in our family) just yesterday told me that he was in Fermoy at a house party when their cases broke out.

    We said no at the time because the same lad is way less craic than others we plan on seeing, we made polite excuses to get out of it. He'd get drunk and get up in our space and probably be put out if we took issue with it. I definitely wouldn't want him using our toilet, going from past experiences of having him over.

    But he's saying on a group chat now that he has symptoms for several days... I asked him separately from the group if he was alright and how long ago he noticed the symptoms. Oh, only since the day before he was demanding to come over to our house.

    Goodbye forever!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I am solely going on the advice of my respiratory professor. I'm not deciding to do this of my own accord or to be anti-social. Of course I'd love if my kids could be back to normal as though there's no virus out there, but if they catch it and pass it on to me, they will have no mother. There were reported cases in my immediate area up until about 10 days ago. There are a lot of asymptomatic cases too. My have been to back gardens and out for walks, I'm not a total recluse. I have said to Kate that I'm happy with outdoor play dates but this does not make Kate happy.

    No I didn't say return to normal, talk to your doctor and ask them what the best approach is and set a routine regarding play, this might only be a lull in transmissions and might be temporary so might be a good idea to get a couple of play dates in before the next lockdown taking the advice of professionals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    No I didn't say return to normal, talk to your doctor and ask them what the best approach is and set a routine regarding play, this might only be a lull in transmissions and might be temporary so might be a good idea to get a couple of play dates in before the next lockdown taking the advice of professionals.

    My doctor advised what I'm saying. Everything I've said that I'm happy with (outdoor play dates) is as per consultants advice. No less, no more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    You could invite one of kates kids to your house if you had an outdoor area they could use, I'm in the process of putting up a pergola for similar reasons, stick to your guns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    You could invite one of kates kids to your house if you had an outdoor area they could use, I'm in the process of putting up a pergola for similar reasons, stick to your guns.

    I have already done that but it's an issue as it will only be an outdoor playdate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭elainers


    Normally a lurker but logged in for this specifically. GPs and Consultants are only contacting the most high risk patients. I think you’re doing the right thing to follow your consultant’s instructions.

    Your “friend” isn’t a friend you want. Who would want a friend that unintelligent and with such little empathy. Would you want your kids to hang out with her kids who will, unfortunately for them, be learning from her at home. I think you’re completely justified in the reaction you’ve had.

    To me the only thing left to do is to remove her from your life.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    My consultant says no.We are aware of the medical information out there but I am in a high risk category so I have to listen to him (her), as he knows my medical history.Outdoors is ok, but nothing else for now.

    That is your mantra when you are dealing wtih her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Thank you to everyone who has posted. I appreciate the advice offered. Thank you for taking the time the reply to my post everyone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    Kate - she is actually trying to help you

    Friends don't dismiss their friends concerns if they are actually trying to help. Play dates outdoors was offered as a compromise and Kate just refused and wouldn't listen to the OP. The OP isn't over reacting and wrapping her whole family in cotton wool, they've a series health risk and have consulted with their doctor but this isn't a debate on what the risks are for contracting COVID are for the OP, its about a friend respecting their friends wishes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭ray giraffe


    Focus on yourself and your kids.
    Your kids need you. Think about the joy you bring to them.
    To protect your kids, you have to protect yourself.

    If your lung condition is unusual, you might not know other people with it.
    If there isn't an active Irish facebook group for the condition, there probably will be a UK facebook group.

    If I were you, I would make a post in the group.
    It's natural to feel frustration when you and your kids can't socialise like usual.
    You will get encouragement and support from lots of parents in the same boat.
    To support each other they might have video chats too.

    Best wishes x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    1,734 people in Ireland have died of covid-19. Many were in the high risk category. Our gov.ie site can list dY by day how many infections were ‘community infections’ - ie from someone you know. Does Kate want you to be a tragic statistic, or does she just listen to the anti- news and march with that? It’s interesting that noone in medical authority has challenged the stat promoted in every news-station yesterday that the chance of catching it from community transmission is one in million - it totlly goes aginst our statistics and promoting it is totally irresponsible. Yeaterday we had over 30 children reported as having caught the covid. You can catch it from your kids via hers. Kate needs to cop on and you meed to stop putting her needs before yours and that of your family and children.
    A friend of mine has it - their lungs have filled up with blood clots and they are totlally ****ed. They won’t make RTE news or national TV but they are real and totally screwed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    OP best of luck and I hope that the danger to you will pass soon.

    One thing about Kate, you're focusing on the wrong aspect. Your mismatch is not about disagreement about scientific facts, but about her not giving a sh*t about you. If she cared about you even a little bit she would accommodate you even if the evidence was weak or risk was low, simply because of the impact on you.

    I have a friend who is claustrophobic, she can't be in a lift or she freaks out. If we travel together we can't do any tourist attractions like caves or skyscrapers, can't book rooms on certain floors in hotels or use some underground systems because she always needs to take the stairs. She finds it hard to even be in the airport jetway if there are no windows and she needs strategies to walk it. None of this is technically harmful to her health and the workarounds are often cumbersome but I accommodate her because I care about her; I can't imagine guilt tripping her or leaving her behind. Kate doesn't care about you one bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    strandroad wrote: »
    OP best of luck and I hope that the danger to you will pass soon.

    One thing about Kate, you're focusing on the wrong aspect. Your mismatch is not about disagreement about scientific facts, but about her not giving a sh*t about you. If she cared about you even a little bit she would accommodate you even if the evidence was weak or risk was low, simply because of the impact on you.

    I have a friend who is claustrophobic, she can't be in a lift or she freaks out. If we travel together we can't do any tourist attractions like caves or skyscrapers, can't book rooms on certain floors in hotels or use some underground systems because she always needs to take the stairs. She finds it hard to even be in the airport jetway if there are no windows and she needs strategies to walk it. None of this is technically harmful to her health and the workarounds are often cumbersome but I accommodate her because I care about her; I can't imagine guilt tripping her or leaving her behind. Kate doesn't care about you one bit.
    You are a kind person to your friend. She's lucky to have you. And yes, I agree that Kate doesn't care for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    1,734 people in Ireland have died of covid-19. Many were in the high risk category. Our gov.ie site can list dY by day how many infections were ‘community infections’ - ie from someone you know. Does Kate want you to be a tragic statistic, or does she just listen to the anti- news and march with that? It’s interesting that noone in medical authority has challenged the stat promoted in every news-station yesterday that the chance of catching it from community transmission is one in million - it totlly goes aginst our statistics and promoting it is totally irresponsible. Yeaterday we had over 30 children reported as having caught the covid. You can catch it from your kids via hers. Kate needs to cop on and you meed to stop putting her needs before yours and that of your family and children.
    A friend of mine has it - their lungs have filled up with blood clots and they are totlally ****ed. They won’t make RTE news or national TV but they are real and totally screwed.
    I am so sorry to hear about your friend. Horrific. I hope your friend pulls through and recovers. I agree with you about nobody challenging the 1 in a million headline. I thought it was a dangerous headline and only feeds into people like kate's beliefs. That the virus is pretty much gone


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Focus on yourself and your kids.
    Your kids need you. Think about the joy you bring to them.
    To protect your kids, you have to protect yourself.

    If your lung condition is unusual, you might not know other people with it.
    If there isn't an active Irish facebook group for the condition, there probably will be a UK facebook group.

    If I were you, I would make a post in the group.
    It's natural to feel frustration when you and your kids can't socialise like usual.
    You will get encouragement and support from lots of parents in the same boat.
    To support each other they might have video chats too.

    Best wishes x

    Thanks, yes it's unusual but I think there might be a couple of hundred others in Ireland with it. I've connected with others who have it - all equally anxious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    ztoical wrote: »
    Friends don't dismiss their friends concerns if they are actually trying to help. Play dates outdoors was offered as a compromise and Kate just refused and wouldn't listen to the OP. The OP isn't over reacting and wrapping her whole family in cotton wool, they've a series health risk and have consulted with their doctor but this isn't a debate on what the risks are for contracting COVID are for the OP, its about a friend respecting their friends wishes.
    Yes there's no respect by Kate for my concerns. The whole thing really has me down tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,204 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    alas Kate is one of those people who has to remain in your life.
    So make it work better?

    Really ? Why ? She’s attempting to pressure the op into a social arrangement that could seriously jeopardize their health. Not through ignorance, because the condition is known to her, covid is known to everyone but for shîts and giggles she wants something... sorry, that’s piss poor, I’d be deleting her number, without explanation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Strumms wrote: »
    Really ? Why ? She’s attempting to pressure the op into a social arrangement that could seriously jeopardize their health. Not through ignorance, because the condition is known to her, covid is known to everyone but for shîts and giggles she wants something... sorry, that’s piss poor, I’d be deleting her number, without explanation.

    I said in my original post that for reasons I won't disclose, she has to remain in my life. Deleting her number isn't an option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Hi OP,

    You are far too amenable for your own good, entertaining all the nonsense from this woman.

    Were I in your shoes, she would be getting very short shrift, and in such a way that there would be no feasible comeback for her unless she wanted to make herself look stupid and uncaring (which she most definitely is).

    Just ask her what your life is worth to her, does she want you dead? Is that her goal? You've always loved her and supported her, so what can she possibly have against you and your children, that she wants to leave them without their mother? Oh I would be laying on the guilt trip so thick, she would be running for cover, and would never even mention a play date again the rest of her natural life. Yes, she would try to paint you as a drama queen, however something like this would sink in deep regardless. I'd just keep repeating the same uncomfortable (for her) conversation, til it sank in. (In fairness, I'd be livid if I were you, so it would probably come more naturally to me - but you have to get angry sometimes. It's good for you :))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    seenitall wrote: »
    Hi OP,

    You are far too amenable for your own good, entertaining all the nonsense from this woman.

    Were I in your shoes, she would be getting very short shrift, and in such a way that there would be no feasible comeback for her unless she wanted to make herself look stupid and uncaring (which she most definitely is).

    Just ask her what your life is worth to her, does she want you dead? Is that her goal? You've always loved her and supported her, so what can she possibly have against you and your children, that she wants to leave them without their mother? Oh I would be laying on the guilt trip so thick, she would be running for cover, and would never even mention a play date again the rest of her natural life. Yes, she would try to paint you as a drama queen, however something like this would sink in deep regardless. I'd just keep repeating the same uncomfortable (for her) conversation, til it sank in. (In fairness, I'd be livid if I were you, so it would probably come more naturally to me - but you have to get angry sometimes. It's good for you :))
    Thank you for your advice. I am livid, disappointed, upset all in one. Its not the first time she has done things to me. I'm sure it won't be the last. I think I'm a nice person, although I'm pretty sure I lack a backbone too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭qwerty13


    I wouldn’t let your kids mix with hers even outdoors unaccompanied. I wouldn’t trust her as far as I’d throw her about telling you that it was an outdoor play date - but that then she couldn’t be bothered keeping an eye on them, and next thing there’s a bunch of then crammed into a tent or a treehouse - or indoors if it suited her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    qwerty13 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t let your kids mix with hers even outdoors unaccompanied. I wouldn’t trust her as far as I’d throw her about telling you that it was an outdoor play date - but that then she couldn’t be bothered keeping an eye on them, and next thing there’s a bunch of then crammed into a tent or a treehouse - or indoors if it suited her.

    My fear too.


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    Please don't put your health or your children's health at risk for anybody. I too have been told that I am in the high risk category and am only now being let out for a walk such is the risk of covid to me. Covid 19 is still very much ever present all around us. Some people have become quite complacent but anyone I know with health issues has been quite proactive in keeping themselves safe. To be honest if I were you she doesn't sound like a very good friend she seems very self centred and not at all supportive of you or your feelings or health issues. I would cut her out of your life. People like that you end up stressing about and that in itself can have a detrimental effect on your health. It's one thing I have taken from this Covid 19 pandemic is that my health is my number one priority and I am going to do all I can to keep myself safe and well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Please don't put your health or your children's health at risk for anybody. I too have been told that I am in the high risk category and am only now being let out for a walk such is the risk of covid to me. Covid 19 is still very much ever present all around us. Some people have become quite complacent but anyone I know with health issues has been quite proactive in keeping themselves safe. To be honest if I were you she doesn't sound like a very good friend she seems very self centred and not at all supportive of you or your feelings or health issues. I would cut her out of your life. People like that you end up stressing about and that in itself can have a detrimental effect on your health. It's one thing I have taken from this Covid 19 pandemic is that my health is my number one priority and I am going to do all I can to keep myself safe and well.

    Thanks, good advice and I hope you stay safe during this pandemic. It's nice to hear from someone going through the same thing. Best of luck.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Not much to add, OP. Just keep doing what you are doing.

    Your health is far too important for anyone to be trying to put you at risk. There may be an element on the other person's part of trying to justify their own behaviour, by being derisive towards you.
    Broken record technique is my advice, 'no, that won't be happening'.
    Don't get into any further discussion on it.

    Take care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭Salthillprom


    Not much to add, OP. Just keep doing what you are doing.

    Your health is far too important for anyone to be trying to put you at risk. There may be an element on the other person's part of trying to justify their own behaviour, by being derisive towards you.
    Broken record technique is my advice, 'no, that won't be happening'.
    Don't get into any further discussion on it.

    Take care.
    Thanks so much for your kind words.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    Unfortunately, when it comes to COVID-19 there are people who are only hearing what they want to hear and will go online and find articles and opinions to support their view that everyone’s making a fuss about nothing.

    Take your consultant’s advice seriously. They know they’re talking about.

    This Kate person seems to only care about not being inconvenienced.


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