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Skoda Octavia 1.8tsi

  • 16-06-2020 12:21pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭


    Well after the Subaru went bang we decided to give bangers a rest for now and move up the years.
    We are close to sealing the deal on a 2015 MK3 1.8 4x4 Octavia.
    Can't find much in terms of issues with this engine, anyone have any information about it?
    Can't seem to find if the timing chain issue was rectified by then or not.
    Also mixed reviews on the dsg box.
    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    They didn’t sell that here AFAIK. We got the 2.0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    It was mostly the EU market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    If you look up reliability in the VAG dictionary, you definitely wont find a picture of the 1.8TSi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    I have a similar engine in my 2010 Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI
    they were more common in the Audi as far as I know.

    1.8 TSI EA888 Engine Problems and Reliability

    The Gen 1, 2 and even Gen 3 have the problem with a stretched out timing chain. It usually happens nearly after 60,000 miles (100,000 km). The problem is accompanied by a high engine noise and unstable operation and can lead to serious engine damages. The Gen3 has a new tensioner and these engines are less prone to such malfunction.

    The Gen2 is well known due to its love to consume a lot of oil. That common problem is caused by too thin piston rings. The oil consumption is very progressive and goes up to 2 liters by 1,000 km at mileage around 100,000 km (60,000 miles). The solution is replacing the stock Gen2 pistons by pistons and piston rings from the Gen1 engine. The Gen1 and Gen3 don't have that issue in problems list.

    Approximately on the mileage ranges of about 100,000 km (60,000 miles) or earlier, the adjustment of the turbocharger actuator is necessary for Gen3 engines.

    The direct injection engine has an unavoidable issue with carbon build up on the intake ports and the intake valves. The fuel is added directly into the cylinder rather than injected into the port and washed out carbon deposit. That leads to restricted airflow, additional weight on valves and bad closing gaps. The engine will produce less power and consume more fuel. The Gen3 engines have fuel injection into the ports in addition to the direct injection; in this case, the last generation stays away from that problem and keeps the intake components relatively clean.

    Unstable longevity, high oil consumption, timing chain problems made a bad reputation for the 1.8 TSI EA888 among car owners all over the world. Unfortunately, the most popular engine 1.8TSI Gen2 has labeled not only itself but the all 1.8 TSI EA888 family as unreliable engines.

    Despite the above problems and issues, these engines are quite good. They produced a lot of power and torque at the same time consumes less fuel than competitors. All generations are easy to tune by simple ECU remap (Stage 1). Engines after Stage 2 and 3 (more efficient exhaust, performance turbocharger, and ECU upgrade) show amazing numbers in power and torque. Like all turbocharged engines with direct injection, the 1.8 TSI EA888 engine requires the high-quality oil and fuel, regular and proper maintenance. With reduced maintenance intervals and a good care, the stock Gen1/Gen3 engine life is about 150,000-200,000 miles (250,000-300,000 km); unpredictable expensive repair at 60-80k miles for Gen2 engines is highly potential.

    https://www.motorreviewer.com/engine.php?engine_id=118

    Skoda Octavia 1.8 TSI Elegance - skoda engine failure & appalling customer service
    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=109272

    The problems I had with mine was failed water pump in a hard part of the engine to replace.I think the last ower had put read stop or some thng like it to stop the coolant leak from the pump ,pump was very badly worn when removed.
    I bought the car in 2017 and pump failed the following year but had be leaking coolant for a few months before in failed.
    The other problem I had was some one put in a battery to small for the engine. so battery died after 1 year.
    The battery that should have be in was a
    The 026 cost 70 euro, 096 costing 120 euro.
    13kg 026 instead of a 20kg 096
    My engine oil does need regular oil top-ups.

    1.8 TSI 112 kW 2009– CDAB (EA888) 1,798 cc (109.7 cu in) 112 kW (150 hp) at 4300–6200 rpm 250 N⋅m (184 lb⋅ft) at 1500–4200 rpm 219 km/h (136 mph) 8.8

    mine is the one below.
    1.8 TSI 118 kW 2008– CDAA (EA888) 1,798 cc (109.7 cu in) 118 kW (158 hp) at 4500–6200 rpm 250 N⋅m (184 lb⋅ft) at 1500–4200 rpm 219 km/h (136 mph) 8.4
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_Superb

    There are a couple of different 1.8tsi listed for the Octivia in the link below.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0koda_Octavia

    You could as on the Skoda forum in the UK.
    https://www.briskoda.net/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    So it would seem that the engine I'm looking at has the rectified tensioner and fuel injection system.
    Mine would be the 180 version which is the which is the hardest to get info about weirdly.
    But thanks for the above.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    bear1 wrote: »
    So it would seem that the engine I'm looking at has the rectified tensioner and fuel injection system.
    Mine would be the 180 version which is the which is the hardest to get info about weirdly.
    But thanks for the above.

    Still wouldnt touch one with a barge pole. Generally junk, look good on paper but they are ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    Still wouldnt touch one with a barge pole. Generally junk, look good on paper but they are ****e.

    As you say a nice engine in some ways, but with a lot of baggage and reliability problems.

    and small turbine petrol engines like that tend not to as efficient as they seem on paper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Given your history I’d maybe give it a miss!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Still wouldnt touch one with a barge pole. Generally junk, look good on paper but they are ****e.

    Just to get your opinion as well on this, would you be basing this on the previous generation engine or just the Octavia in general?
    It's a post leased car and comes with a years warranty so it has a bit of security attached to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Given your history I’d maybe give it a miss!

    To be fair, the Subaru was perfect until I put it into the wrong hands.
    The Passat, Lancia, Accord and Volvo were the issues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You’re basically the automotive grim reaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    bear1 wrote: »
    Just to get your opinion as well on this, would you be basing this on the previous generation engine or just the Octavia in general?
    It's a post leased car and comes with a years warranty so it has a bit of security attached to it.

    Not the Octavia, but the 1.8tsi. I've no experience of it in the Octavia as they aren't available here but seen plenty of them in Audis and all problems problems problems. Coil packs, timing chains, turbos, burning excessive oil, coolant leaks and other issues. Wouldn't be wild about one at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    Might be best to avoid an engine that is so rare in that car in Ireland.
    Harder to get parts and Skoda dealers in Ireland have little expertise repairing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Belfast wrote: »
    Might be best to avoid an engine that is so rare in that car in Ireland.
    Harder to get parts and Skoda dealers in Ireland have little expertise repairing them.

    OP isn’t in Ireland though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    It's a very popular engine in Poland, in all the VAG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    You’re basically the automotive grim reaper.

    Toyota cured that issue for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    OP isn’t in Ireland though.

    My mistake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    So I'll update this.
    You'll all be delighted to know that I Ended up in the end going for it.
    I have an extended warranty for one year with all engine components that fail except wear and tear items.
    Chain, turbo, box etc all covered so I'm quite safe there.
    Got a good deal for polish standards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,355 ✭✭✭Belfast


    bear1 wrote: »
    So I'll update this.
    You'll all be delighted to know that I Ended up in the end going for it.
    I have an extended warranty for one year with all engine components that fail except wear and tear items.
    Chain, turbo, box etc all covered so I'm quite safe there.
    Got a good deal for polish standards.

    I hope you have many years of happy driving it the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    It will be fecked by Christmas.
    L&K spec, DSG box and an ex leased car with a full history.
    Happy out for now. Fair quick too with the 4 wheel drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Nice, what colour interior is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Nice, what colour interior is it?

    It's a mix of chocolate and black so it's a bit unusual.
    I can't understand why the person didn't spec heated seats tbh on this version.
    Bi xenon's are nice to have again.
    But I'll be back in a couple of months asking what car next so don't hang away too long.


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