second-fifth worst years

the_pen_turner

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

Pawwed Rig

This is the worst year since 1920?? You have lead a privileged life

This year would not even be in the worst 10

Timberrrrrrrr

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

I think 1939 - 1945 might have something to say about that kiddo.

joe40

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

1939 to 1945 were pretty rough. Troubles in NI were no fun.

On balance 2020 is easily in the top 50 % of the best years in the last 100years

joe40

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I think 1939 - 1945 might have something to say about that kiddo.

Damn got in before me..

Muahahaha

Would have said 1962 when the Cuban missile crisis was in full swing. Two world superpowers teetering on the edge of nuclear warfare. Had cool heads not prevaliled it would have made Hiroshoma and Nagasaki look like a teddy bears picnic.

The Tetrarch

1918: World War and Spanish flu

skooterblue2

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

Have you ever owned or read a history book?
The depression of the 1930's?
The Second World Wars with the threat of German invasion and chemical weapons.
Constant fear of a Nuclear winter supposing you were lucky enough to the cold war. In the 1980's there were massive biological programs we never knew about? Poisonous medications like Thalidomide? Vaccines and medications being tested on Children in orphanages in Ireland? Unemployment of the 1980's and few opportunities in Ireland?

Yeah Clearly 2020, worst year on record ever!!!

Westernyelp

The Tetrarch wrote: »

1918: World War and Spanish flu

102 years ago

Quantum Erasure

I remember the year after we did the Junior Cert, near the end of the year we had assembly, and the Principal stood up in front of us all and said we were the second worst fifth-years he ever had the misfortune of meeting....

kneemos

Most of the eighties in an Irish context.

Timberrrrrrrr

Westernyelp wrote: »

102 years ago

To be fair the op did say

"the worst year in the last 100 or so."

Tony EH

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

:eek:

Come round my way and I'll give you a trip in my time machine to a few places in 1945.

That'll change your mind sharpish.

skooterblue2

I think you got your answer OP.
Clearly the biggest threats to you this year are Gemma ODoherty banning Unicorns, No being able to attend University on Campus and over grown hair.

You are in for a rough life next year when the stock market crashes and Trump wins the American elections this October and is sworn in afterwards. I would keep my powder dry until then.

the_pen_turner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I think 1939 - 1945 might have something to say about that kiddo.

i disagree entirely.
yes they were terrible years for some but they had no effect on most of africa, south america, most of asia etc.

this virus is effecting most of the world medically and economically

the_pen_turner

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I think you got your answer OP.
Clearly the biggest threats to you this year are Gemma ODoherty banning Unicorns, No being able to attend University on Campus and over grown hair.

You are in for a rough life next year when the stock market crashes and Trump wins the American elections this October and is sworn in afterwards. I would keep my powder dry until then.

the thing about things being bad is that they can always get worse

Timberrrrrrrr

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i disagree entirely.
yes they were terrible years for some but they had no effect on most of africa, south america, most of asia etc.

this virus is effecting most of the world medically and economically

You really need to pick up a book and educate yourself.

Do you think WW2 didnt effect the world economically?

Estimated covid deaths worldwide = 500,000

Estimated ww2 deaths worldwide 70 - 85 MILLION

skooterblue2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Estimated ww2 deaths worldwide 70 - 85 MILLION

Actually we have little or no idea what went on, on the Eastern Front so that could be a very conservative number. But your point definitely stands!

skooterblue2

Tony EH wrote: »

:eek:

Come round my way and I'll give you a trip in my time machine to a few places in 1945.

That'll change your mind sharpish.

Anywhere there is cannibalism (Eastern Front, Rwanda, Uganda (Idi Amin time), Biafra, Stalingrad) you know you have reached the bottom.

skooterblue2

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i disagree entirely.
yes they were terrible years for some but they had no effect on most of africa, south america, most of asia etc.

this virus is effecting most of the world medically and economically

Oh Sweet suffering Jesus!!!!
Libya, North Africa, Egypt, Sudan, Manchuria, Burma, Singapore, Hong Kong, The Philippines ..... JAPAN!?!?!?!

Also Indochina(Vietnam) and Korea?

Ok I am going to donate €5 to buy this poor deprived lad a history book!
No Child left behind!!!

the_pen_turner

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Oh Sweet suffering Jesus!!!!
Libya, North Africa, Egypt, Sudan, Manchuria, Burma, Singapore, Hong Kong, The Philippines ..... JAPAN!?!?!?!

Also Indochina(Vietnam) and Korea?

Ok I am going to donate €5 to buy this poor deprived lad a history book!
No Child left behind!!!

my point is that there are huge areas that have very little effect on

the people on the ground had a relatively normal existence

Timberrrrrrrr

the_pen_turner wrote: »

my point is that there are huge areas that have very little effect on

the people on the ground had a relatively normal existence

Sweet jesus child, dig up!

the_pen_turner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Sweet jesus child, dig up!

go ahead. tell me what effect ww2 had on those people on the ground in those countries

skooterblue2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Sweet jesus child, dig up!

Just give up and go quietly like me. Obvious troll is the OP.

Timberrrrrrrr

the_pen_turner wrote: »

go ahead. tell me what effect ww2 had on those people on the ground in those countries

Well apart from losing loved ones, rationing, war going on around them etc I suppose they had it easy.

Not like the poor people today who have had to sit on the sofa for a couple of months watching netflix and worrying about where their next packet of pasta will come from :rolleyes:

Yes I know people have been affected by covid but to even compare it to 1 year of WW2 never mind 6 years is absolutely moronic.

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Just give up and go quietly like me. Obvious troll is the OP.

I thought so too but here 5 years with over 5700 posts? That's playing the long game and then some.

the_pen_turner

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Just give up and go quietly like me. Obvious troll is the OP.

in lots of ways this year is the worst for the everyday person on the ground that is in fear of their lives just wlking down the street from an unstopable and invisable enemy.

riffmongous

the_pen_turner wrote: »

my point is that there are huge areas that have very little effect on

the people on the ground had a relatively normal existence

Are you sure? Even in places where there was no fighting there was still often extreme hardship, a topical example at the moment would be the 'Churchill famine' in Bengal, 2-3 million dead and rarely mentioned in war accounts. The drain on resources and requisitioning would have affected most of the world since most of it was under colonial control.

Then there are simply the ones where there was fighting but it mostly gets ignored, e.g. China 14-20 million deaths

the_pen_turner

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well apart from losing loved ones, rationing, war going on around them etc I suppose they had it easy.that doesnt apply to those countries

Not like the poor people today who have had to sit on the sofa for a couple of months watching netflix and worrying about where their next packet of pasta will come from :rolleyes:obviously here it is fairly soft way to sit out a virus but imagine being in india or china or those dirt poor third world coutries

Yes I know people have been affected by covid but to even compare it to 1 year of WW2 never mind 6 years is absolutely moronic.

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Pawwed Rig

the_pen_turner wrote: »

in lots of ways this year is the worst for the everyday person on the ground that is in fear of their lives just wlking down the street from an unstopable and invisable enemy.

TB had a much bigger impact in Ireland and lasted for years. Every country will have incidents that were infinitely worse than Covid 19

Timberrrrrrrr

the_pen_turner wrote: »

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Well it's hard to argue with that rebuttal

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

You've obviously never heard of Nazi Germany.

the_pen_turner

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

You've obviously never heard of Nazi Germany.

there are places worse than that right now

mgbgt1978

It's all relative OP. South Korea has a population of over 53 million. 277 reported deaths from covid. It's possible more people died from parachute accidents/sheep-shagging/etc this year :rolleyes:.
So the Koreans are laughing at you straight away.....I can't be arsed to search the Globe for more comparisons, but sure, you get the idea.

spacetweek

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Just give up and go quietly like me. Obvious troll is the OP.

I think it's quite clear he's serious.

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS!

the_pen_turner wrote: »

there are places worse than that right now

Such as?

the_pen_turner

Hairy Japanese BASTARDS! wrote: »

Such as?

china, some of the middle east, north korea etc

briany

When epidemics and crackpot governments happen in the 3rd world: Yawn, change the channel.

When epidemics and crackpot governments happen in the 1st world: OH MI GAWD, THE WORLD IS GOING TO BURN.

Let's not go too hard on the hyperbole - there'll be a 2021, unless the nukes start flying or a great big mountain-sized asteroid hits us directly.

I wouldn't even mind, but in the 3rd world, the crackpot leaders are proper - wielding gold AK-47s and keeping a harem of concubines, and their diseases are a shade worse, too, like hemorrhagic fevers and such.

buried

Whatever years were there was no Autechre albums or releases...all of them

mgbgt1978

the_pen_turner wrote: »

china, some of the middle east, north korea etc

So...you're saying that North Korea is worse this year than last year (or the previous year, and so on) ?

Why is china worse now than 5/10/20 years ago ?
"Some of the Middle East" ? Because the Middle East was flying it up until January ?


I know it's AH , but Jesus wept

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I remember the year after we did the Junior Cert, near the end of the year we had assembly, and the Principal stood up in front of us all and said we were the second worst fifth-years he ever had the misfortune of meeting....

This is after giving me such a fit of laughing!

If only the OP was The_Page_Turner of a history book!

Capt'n Midnight

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i think its fairly safe to say that this is the worst year in the last 100 or so.

what years should make up the top 5

Thierville in Upper Normandy was the only village in all of France with no men lost from World War I

Only 32% of Males born in the Soviet Union in 1923 were still alive when WWII ended.

Global population in 1900 was about 1,600 million people. Compare that to between 300-500 million deaths by smallpox since.
ZERO deaths since 1978 though.

During a time frame similar to the current lockdown, in Rwanda, a country a third the size of Ireland, a million people were slaughtered.

Vietnam was invaded by the Japanese in 1940 and was then almost continuously at war with Japan, France, USA, Australia, South Korea, Cambodia and/or China until 1979

Six million people died in the Second Congo War.

There were reports of people starving to death during the economic war between us and the UK in the 1930's

Asbestos, lead in petrol, DDT, Polio, TB

We don't practice duck and cover.

the_pen_turner

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

So...you're saying that North Korea is worse this year than last year (or the previous year, and so on) ?

Why is china worse now than 5/10/20 years ago ?
"Some of the Middle East" ? Because the Middle East was flying it up until January ?


I know it's AH , but Jesus wept

what are you raving about, that has nothing got to do with what i said

Wanderer2010

1941-1946 was extremely grim for Jewish people. 2001 was horrendous too for obvious reasons. And the entire 70s, 80s and 90s were a literal warzone for people in Northern Ireland where thousands of people lost their lives during the Troubles. A global pandemic is bad but doesnt compare to horrors of the past.

Ten of Swords

If I'm interpreting op's history lesson correctly, in 2020 the death count may be low compared to other events but the fear of death is incredibly high

The generally accepted timeframe of the Cold War is 1947 to 1991, a period of 44 years where there was a very real threat of all out nuclear war

I rank 2020 45th out of the last 100 using those criteria

You're welcome op

fleet_admiral

Don't forget 2010

The year Thierry Henry handled the ball

Tony EH

the_pen_turner wrote: »

i disagree entirely.
yes they were terrible years for some but they had no effect on most of africa, south america, most of asia etc.

this virus is effecting most of the world medically and economically

What age are you?

Serious question.

mgbgt1978

the_pen_turner wrote: »

what are you raving about, that has nothing got to do with what i said

...or has it ?

AMKC

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I think you got your answer OP.
Clearly the biggest threats to you this year are Gemma ODoherty banning Unicorns, No being able to attend University on Campus and over grown hair.

You are in for a rough life next year when the stock market crashes and Trump wins the American elections this October and is sworn in afterwards. I would keep my powder dry until then.

Lol. Not going to happen Joe Biden is going to win the election this time and become President of the United States and we can all the forget about the fake President of the last 4 years. The one who accomplished nothing except for dividing a nation. He has had two disasters in the last 6 months and they will be the reason he will lose. If the Americans vote him in again then they might as well nuke themselves because it would only get worse for them.

endacl

the_pen_turner wrote: »

in lots of ways this year is the worst for the everyday person on the ground that is in fear of their lives just wlking down the street from an unstopable and invisable enemy.

You're funny.