Is this a form of bullying and how can it be stopped

comfort

Hi all,

Last week I put up a post about a barrage of abuse being hurled at two ladies from a guy in a cemetery.

I investigated informally and quietly as I was indeed concerned for the two ladies. It so happens that the guy is a brother of the two ladies (so family disagreement with attitude). The two ladies seemingly visit the grave of their parents but on this occasion the brother was there - seemingly he travelled from another county to visit.

First of all it would be right to say that the brother disregarded all safety restrictions in travelling from the other county (it was over 100KM away form this location). I contacted the gardai to enquire as to the enforcement or notifying them of this person thinking he is above the law. Also it seems this is his personality - one that does not take much to work out. The gardai advised that there was nothing they could do as the manpower was not available and there were to many variances to get to this town. I accepted the reply to be fair.

I also told them about the incident in the cemetery and many others were there also and would have witnessed let alone heard the abuse being hurled at them. It was very unsitely and hard to stay in the cemetery really. I know it would be a case of disturbing the peace in a way but just wondering other than the ladies reporting the incident what else canoe done - more than likely nothing in a sense that wait for him to return to the town again and let the gardai know - so that they can have a word etc.

Many thanks
(OH there seems to be a lot more to this family that just this outburst I have heard - the ladies are lovely to be fair and live in the town)

emeldc

Why would you want to get involved in a family dispute. It has nothing to do with you. Let the two women look after it themselves, if they're even bothered.

Mrs OBumble

You saw one incident.

By definition, one event is not bullying.

If you witness a public order incident occurring, call the guards.

An Ri rua

If he was roaring and shouting in a cemetery, you should report him for disturbing the peace. For your own sake and others.

It's sacred ground and people are entitled to respect their recently deceased and ancestors within a quiet and safe environment.

Ignore others laissez faire attitude thus far here. This is a public order disturbance and he should have his wings clipped. Next time, film him. That would be the least I would do if he disturbed me visiting my loved ones.

comfort

emeldc wrote: »

Why would you want to get involved in a family dispute. It has nothing to do with you. Let the two women look after it themselves, if they're even bothered.

Thats a very fair comment and normally would agree and will of course let it be. But the reason I did initially was due to the severity of it and the place where it occurred. Thats all. If everyone just turned a blind eye - what kind of place would we be living in. I didn't go any further as you correctly stated it is none of my business but publicly I do have a responsibility as should every good citizen and report etc.

comfort

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

You saw one incident.

By definition, one event is not bullying.

If you witness a public order incident occurring, call the guards.

I disagree, bullying by definition for me would be someone or group (in this case one person) of people where in this case a man barraging defenceless women verbally for several minutes leaving the women no choice but to run.

Secondly, I did indeed call the guards but unfortunately the man was gone by time they arrived.

Ash.J.Williams

comfort wrote: »

Hi all,

Last week I put up a post about a barrage of abuse being hurled at two ladies from a guy in a cemetery.

I investigated informally and quietly as I was indeed concerned for the two ladies. It so happens that the guy is a brother of the two ladies (so family disagreement with attitude). The two ladies seemingly visit the grave of their parents but on this occasion the brother was there - seemingly he travelled from another county to visit.

First of all it would be right to say that the brother disregarded all safety restrictions in travelling from the other county (it was over 100KM away form this location). I contacted the gardai to enquire as to the enforcement or notifying them of this person thinking he is above the law. Also it seems this is his personality - one that does not take much to work out. The gardai advised that there was nothing they could do as the manpower was not available and there were to many variances to get to this town. I accepted the reply to be fair.

I also told them about the incident in the cemetery and many others were there also and would have witnessed let alone heard the abuse being hurled at them. It was very unsitely and hard to stay in the cemetery really. I know it would be a case of disturbing the peace in a way but just wondering other than the ladies reporting the incident what else canoe done - more than likely nothing in a sense that wait for him to return to the town again and let the gardai know - so that they can have a word etc.

Many thanks
(OH there seems to be a lot more to this family that just this outburst I have heard - the ladies are lovely to be fair and live in the town)

Good one

Mrs OBumble

[quote="comfort;113797217" defenceless women [/quote]

What's the difference between a woman and a defenseless woman?

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the age of chivalry still lives imho

comfort

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

What's the difference between a woman and a defenseless woman?

You are obviously looking for something for me to say and trying to change or point the discussion in a different direction to which I am not willing to participate. For me I was brought up always to help people in need or support them where possible.

you are generalising something which is stated in a description of fact and has no bearing on the discussion. I hope you accept my reply and have no interest in making mountains out of molehills. It does not matter who it was I describe as defenceless I would still do the same.

nuac

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easy now ecoli, this is legal discussion