The media bandwagon . . .

Hamsterchops

Don't you just hate it.

Moving like a flock of starlings from one story to the next, all trying to outdo each other, until they get to peck away & feed on the next story.

Currently it's pulling down slave trader statues & blackface TV comedy shows from the past ....

EmmetSpiceland

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Don't you just hate it.

Moving like a flock of starlings from one story to the next, all trying to outdo each other, until they get to peck away & feed on the next story.

Currently it's pulling down slave trader statues & blackface TV comedy shows from the past ....

Would you prefer they “ignored” what is currently going on in the world?

What would you have news companies “cover”?

Royale with Cheese

Remember when Greta Thunberg was everywhere? Climate change was two hysterias back now, almost hard to remember.

Rodney Bathgate

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Remember when Greta Thunberg was everywhere? Climate was two hysterias back now, almost hard to remember.

Who?

BPKS

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Remember when Greta Thunberg was everywhere? Climate was two hysterias back now, almost hard to remember.

There is a journalist out there searching for a homeless, gay, black, climate change activist to champion.

Drumpot

The people of Springfield can look really stupid at time’s, but they are at their core a very good representation of society and how it regulates itself in a quite erratic And knee jerk fashion. The hypocrisy, double standards and quite hyperbolic reaction society has at different times is very similar, especially with a deficiency in most people who lack the capacity for any sense of self reflection or even to just reflect objectively on all aspects of a cause/agenda. There’s even less capacity for a conversation on these sort of things because the masses want blood and “action” so everything against the grain (banning/changing shows etc) is branded an enemy of the cause.

It’s ironic that the reason things seldom change is because even when there is a push for change, the methods of these causes quite often create an even bigger divide. There is an either “you are completely supportive of the cause” or “you are racist or agaisnt it for questioning any elements of it”. When you look at the schoolyard exchanges that goes on in most government debates it shouldn’t surprise us that our species is so bad at basic communication for change.

Hamsterchops

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Remember when Greta Thunberg was everywhere? Climate was two hysterias back now, almost hard to remember.

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about, all gone quiet now on the Thunnerg front as they've moved into the next feeding ground ...

Allinall

News outlets report on what's going on in the world shocker.

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

KiKi III

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about, all gone quiet now on the Thunnerg front as they've moved into the next feeding ground ...

It’s literally the whole point of the news to report on what’s happening in society at the moment.

Drumpot

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about, all gone quiet now on the Thunnerg front as they've moved into the next feeding ground ...

The most pathetic thing about Thunnerg is that the majority of the adult western world needs a child to tell them we are destroying our planet. Regardless Of the motives behind people pushing her forward, she’s not wrong.

This COVID crisis was a great example of how blind we are to our world and really are disconnected from reality (nature). Look back at people in February discussing the potential spread of COVID In these forums and those of us concerned were being treated like tin foil hat people. I couldn’t even discuss it to people in the real world as most thought it was a storm in a teacup. Even now many people think the worst is over simply because they want to believe it. There’s no logical reason to believe the worst of COVID is behind us other then blind faith. I have had many people say “you called it right” on COVID but I didn’t. I just listened to more informed people talk about it.

If more people actually educated themselves and allowed their beliefs to be challenged we wouldn’t need children like Greta to go around lecturing them.

KiKi III

Maybe people were more focused on a climate change activist last year because thousands of acres of wildlife were burning in Australia and Brazil?

Aongus Von Bismarck

Social media was a really bad idea.

bb1234567

It is shockingly shallow and ingenuine. There is no real concern or interest there to actually inform the public on current news or events, just whatever will scare and shock the most is pushed to the front, regardless of facts. The scare mongering frenzy whipped up about COVID for months on end was a disgrace and then miraculously this deadly covid pandemic ended worldwide in a single day with the oubtreak of race riots in the usa completely unrelated to anything of Irish culture or political situations

All this Black lives matter madness will be dead and buried in a week, young people who are acting like their whole lives revolve around race relations will not utter another word about it for another year because the majority of them couldn't care less, the Great Thunberg stuff in September made that abundantly clear how shallow these social media campaigns can be. You know, I very naively thought at that time that maybe this young generation were in fact more conisderate and caring than had been given credit, but clearly it's not very true. As self centred as any of the other generations before them. I really am interested to see what the next hysterical episode will be

Your Face

Yeah but at least it all goes away once people get bored of it.

KiKi III

Hamsterchops wrote: »

My point being that the media feed on it, social media then magnifies it, mainstream media then picks this up, and it then spirals up in the air for a few weeks, till the next story gets picked up . . .

The likes of Sky News are to blame IMO.

Breaking News, another statue has been removed :eek:

And another, and another, and another, then by this time next week, all is quiet in the statue front as the media move on to the next feeding zone...

Yeah, you’re complaining about the fact that the news is too focused on what’s happening right now and it’s bizarre.

How else could the news work?

It would make no sense if Greta Thunberg was on front pages now. It makes sense that BLM pushed Covid out of the headlines.

You’re mad that the news keeps moving on when that’s it’s literal purpose...

paw patrol

Allinall wrote: »

News outlets report on what's going on in the world shocker.

HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!

well they do more than that. They prioritise certain stories and in the last decade actual reporting is a minimum . Opinion and slant are everywhere.

Also we've seen a massive rise in purchasing stories from other media (i'm sure there is an official word for it) ..ever notice some articles are identical between medias?...cos only 1 person actually wrote them.
Listen to the news on radio , they are on a slightly different time so if you switch over you can get the same stories ...always the same wording. odd that.

It's almost like people are being force fed the same news and agenda....weird..

Hamsterchops

KiKi III wrote: »

You’re mad that the news keeps moving on when that’s it’s literal purpose...

Gosh no, you completely misunderstand me.

I'm not talking about real news, I'm talking about the media circus in the form of bandwagon news stories, being turned into soap operas.

Media outlets like Sky News to be precise, with social media fanning the flames.

MrMusician18

KiKi III wrote: »

It’s literally the whole point of the news to report on what’s happening in society at the moment.

Indeed it is, report the news, not editorialise it.

It's an extremely difficult concept for the likes of the IT and RTE to grasp however.

5555555555

There should have been widespread condemnation about the BLM protests that went ahead in Ireland by our media and our politicians due to the Covid regulations.



Instead they were too afraid of an oddball Twitter minority who were out virtue signalling and looking for FB likes to speak the truth.


Cowards.

whisky_galore

KiKi III wrote: »

Maybe people were more focused on a climate change activist last year because thousands of acres of wildlife were burning in Australia and Brazil?

Greta stopped the fires burning, fixed everything and stopped polar bears from melting.

Now onto our next news item.

paw patrol

5555555555 wrote: »

There should have been widespread condemnation about the BLM protests that went ahead in Ireland by our media and our politicians due to the Covid regulations.



Instead they were too afraid of an oddball Twitter minority who were out virtue signalling and looking for FB likes to speak the truth.


Cowards.

they are cowards for sure - but our TDs and politicians are the biggest cowards with a few notable exceptions

Rodney Bathgate

whisky_galore wrote: »

Greta stopped the fires burning, fixed everything and stopped polar bears from melting.

Now onto our next news item.

She gave up once she got her Nobel Prize. Her heart was never in it.

KiKi III

I wonder how many of the people who bitch about the media have a subscription to their preferred news site?

It’s easy to get outraged, but are you willing to pay a tenner a month to an organisation whose values you align with?

Silentcorner

KiKi III wrote: »

I wonder how many of the people who bitch about the media have a subscription to their preferred news site?

It’s easy to get outraged, but are you willing to pay a tenner a month to an organisation whose values you align with?

You'd want to hate money to pay for information in this day and age.

Being misinformed is one thing, being out of pocket to be misinformed is stupidity of the highest order.

I used to buy The Irish Times, I get embarrassed thinking about it.

Montage of Feck

Some of the debates on primetime of late have been utter cringe, even worse is the fact that the host has a Phd. Intelligent discussion has been dispensed with, just stick two clowns on and have them argue a nonsensical issues, well something that would be a non issue to anyone with common sense.

What really pisses me off about the media at the minute is the constant barrage of touching human interest stories..they don't just tell you what's happening anymore, they have an interview with someone affected by it.. They're trying to bypass the thinking mind to manipulate the emotions with cheap sentimentality..


pisses me off..

Tchaikovsky

KiKi III wrote: »

Maybe people were more focused on a climate change activist last year because thousands of acres of wildlife were burning in Australia and Brazil?

Unbelievably, Australia burning was 2020. The year has been so bad that that will probably be in the highlights reel.

Haha.. yeah, reeling in the years for 2020 is gonna be epic..

Montage of Feck

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

Unbelievably, Australia burning was 2020. The year has been so bad that that will probably be in the highlights reel.

This year has my head melted, the fires seem like years ago now.

Feisar

paw patrol wrote: »

they are cowards for sure - but our TDs and politicians are the biggest cowards with a few notable exceptions

Their jobs are based on popularity, why would they pass comment and possibly be thrown to the lions by a quote taken out of context.

CrankyHaus

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Remember when Greta Thunberg was everywhere? Climate change was two hysterias back now, almost hard to remember.

Climate Change hysteria is the sign that we're at the top of the economic cycle.
Not genuine climate issues but rather the point at which they become a mainstream bandwagon that every vested interest jumps on board.

I remember in 2006 it was all bollix about how biodiesel and binning your car for a brand new "clean" one would save us.
Then last year it was all toss about Greta saving the world by sailing across the Ocean on some Monaco aristocrat's superyacht with a handpicked crew to be flown home afterwards and anyone who questioned it was a white male alt-right paedophile.

Next time you see it happening in a few years sell all your stocks, you'll thank me.

5555555555

paw patrol wrote: »

they are cowards for sure - but our TDs and politicians are the biggest cowards with a few notable exceptions

I agree. I mentioned politicians as well.

PhilOssophy

Drumpot wrote: »

The most pathetic thing about Thunnerg is that the majority of the adult western world needs a child to tell them we are destroying our planet.

No, the most pathetic thing about it is if you ask the same children/teenagers who are #outraged #climateprotest and get a half day from school to show up at a climate protest will they holiday in Tramore rather than the Costa Del Sol in a bid to save the planet, they would change their tune very quickly about Greta and co.

Feisar

I hope Greta is OK now that the spotlight is gone.

KiKi III

Silentcorner wrote: »

You'd want to hate money to pay for information in this day and age.

Being misinformed is one thing, being out of pocket to be misinformed is stupidity of the highest order.

I used to buy The Irish Times, I get embarrassed thinking about it.

Yeah, you can tell by your posts you eschew newspapers with editorial standards in favour of loudmouths with YouTube channels.

Haha.. burn..

CrankyHaus

KiKi III wrote: »

Yeah, you can tell by your posts you eschew newspapers with editorial standards in favour of loudmouths with YouTube channels.

The gap between "Youtube Loudmouths" and the likes of RTE or the Irish Times isn't always that wide unfortunately. I wouldn't have much time for any of them tbh.

Rodney Bathgate

CrankyHaus wrote: »

The gap between "Youtube Loudmouths" and the likes RTE or the Irish Times isn't always that wide unfortunately. I wouldn't have much time for any of them tbh.

Fintan The Toole is a loudmouth hobsh1te.

Jimbob1977

Brexit is rarely mentioned anymore.

Nor homelessness

Nor the lack of a government

Nor the complete absence of sport

Today's news is tomorrow's fish and chip wrapper

tonycascarino

No real mention from the media of the real matters ahead that will directly affect us ie. a big recession. Every other story pushed to hide us from reality.

whisky_galore

PhilOssophy wrote: »

No, the most pathetic thing about it is if you ask the same children/teenagers who are #outraged #climateprotest and get a half day from school to show up at a climate protest will they holiday in Tramore rather than the Costa Del Sol in a bid to save the planet, they would change their tune very quickly about Greta and co.

The same ones swanning around northern Italy on their Covid infected school ski trip.

Silentcorner

KiKi III wrote: »

Yeah, you can tell by your posts you eschew newspapers with editorial standards in favour of loudmouths with YouTube channels.

Editorial Standards? The Irish Times?

The same newspaper that ignored systematic church child abuse scandals, ignored endemic political and planning corruption in Dublin!!!

Oh Kiki....you poor thing!!!

TomSweeney

Drumpot wrote: »

The most pathetic thing about Thunnerg is that the majority of the adult western world needs a child to tell them we are destroying our planet. Regardless Of the motives behind people pushing her forward, she’s not wrong.

This COVID crisis was a great example of how blind we are to our world and really are disconnected from reality (nature). Look back at people in February discussing the potential spread of COVID In these forums and those of us concerned were being treated like tin foil hat people. I couldn’t even discuss it to people in the real world as most thought it was a storm in a teacup. Even now many people think the worst is over simply because they want to believe it. There’s no logical reason to believe the worst of COVID is behind us other then blind faith. I have had many people say “you called it right” on COVID but I didn’t. I just listened to more informed people talk about it.

If more people actually educated themselves and allowed their beliefs to be challenged we wouldn’t need children like Greta to go around lecturing them.

Well apart from really really good trials of vaccines going on at lightning speed and some of them looking really promising with the potential to have doses in production by the end of the year ...

Hamsterchops

Deleted User wrote: »

What really pisses me off about the media at the minute is the constant barrage of touching human interest stories..they don't just tell you what's happening anymore, they have an interview with someone affected by it.. They're trying to bypass the thinking mind to manipulate the emotions with cheap sentimentality..

Well said.

Beechwoodspark

Genuinely, listening to RTÉ lately I have come to believe that Ireland 2020 is something akin to 1840s Alabama and what’s more I personally as a white male am to blame

CrankyHaus

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Genuinely, listening to RTÉ lately I have come to believe that Ireland 2020 is something akin to 1840s Alabama and what’s more I personally as a white male am to blame

Lololol, the Irish Times website had some nonsense about Ireland's responsibility for the slave trade.
It's pretty obvious that a grievance industry based on casting Black people as eternal victims is trying to import itself from the US, presumably using Travellers aa a substitute wasn't profitable enough, and the media is doing it's part by socially conditioning the population to believe they're guilty because of their skin colour. Original Sin Part II; Electric Boogaloo.

buried

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Genuinely, listening to RTÉ lately I have come to believe that Ireland 2020 is something akin to 1840s Alabama and what’s more I personally as a white male am to blame

And if you have always listened to it, you quickly realise they never want to talk about what happened during the 1840's in Ireland, our country, at all.

Beechwoodspark

And what’s really ironic is that, honestly the most racist people I’ve encountered in Ireland are Irish travelers. Like...disgusting blatant racism

CrankyHaus

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

And what’s really ironic is that, honestly the most racist people I’ve encountered in Ireland are Irish travelers. Like...disgusting blatant racism

There's been a few high profile cases of racist attacks in this country in recent years that attracted enormous media attention when they first occurred.
However as soon as it became apparent that the perpetrators were travellers all reportage ceased and the story was never heard of again.

Drumpot

TomSweeney wrote: »

Well apart from really really good trials of vaccines going on at lightning speed and some of them looking really promising with the potential to have doses in production by the end of the year ...

There is a potential of a vaccine, how does that mean the worst is behind us?

Being realistic is accepting that maybe the worst is behind us but equally maybe it’s not because it’s still early in this pandemic. To try and paint a picture that it’s all gravy from here on in is delusional.

You can be optimistic on where the COVID pandemic is going and still be realistic. I think some people equate being realistic (the worst may not be over) with being pessimistic When it’s simply a statement of fact.

PhilOssophy

Another one would be the herd who are all over this movement, put a direct provision centre on their street if they are so open minded, see what tune they sing then.....