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Digging out a pond

  • 03-06-2020 9:41am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭


    Can I go ahead and dig out a pond (about 20m x 20m)?

    Has anyone done this and what hoops, if any, did you have to jump through first?

    It's on a bit of land that's down as scrub on the BPS. No other payments are associated with it.

    It's for biodiversity and to pump water from for cattle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Depending on the scrub you could come under pressure for lifting that during the closed period.

    Ha being read through the SI covering this recently it seems to allow for removal of isolated scrub in grassland so that might be enough of anger out. Plus your replacing it with an alternative source of biodiversity so it should be fine.

    As above I’d say dig away and deal with whatever fallout later, chances are there willl be none.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Earnshaw


    _Brian wrote: »
    Depending on the scrub you could come under pressure for lifting that during the closed period.

    Ha being read through the SI covering this recently it seems to allow for removal of isolated scrub in grassland so that might be enough of anger out. Plus your replacing it with an alternative source of biodiversity so it should be fine.

    As above I’d say dig away and deal with whatever fallout later, chances are there willl be none.

    Won't be doing it until later in the year. What's the SI?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,222 ✭✭✭endainoz


    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=601253457160125&id=247709322514542

    This should be helpful for digging out a pond. It has great information about diversity aswell and how to manage it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Earnshaw wrote: »
    Won't be doing it until later in the year. What's the SI?

    Sorry Statutory Instrument.
    It’s the state document on a topic that laws are drawn from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,458 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    How is the pond been fed. The reason that I ask is you have to be careful about interfering with streams/rivers that fish spawn in. As far as I know it is an offense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Earnshaw


    Base price wrote: »
    How is the pond been fed. The reason that I ask is you have to be careful about interfering with streams/rivers that fish spawn in. As far as I know it is an offense.

    Right. Good point. It'll be fed from a spring, where it rises and trickles down into a stream in a previously dug out dyke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    I have an old copy of "Shooting Times" from 1960 or thereabouts, with instructions on how to mix up fertilizer and diesel oil to create explosives, and the best dept to bury it at to blast out flight ponds!
    How times change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I have an old copy of "Shooting Times" from 1960 or thereabouts, with instructions on how to mix up fertilizer and diesel oil to create explosives, and the best dept to bury it at to blast out flight ponds!
    How times change.

    Did they change the ingredients of fertilser in Ireland to prevent it being made into an explosive? Or did I dream that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Did they change the ingredients of fertilser in Ireland to prevent it being made into an explosive? Or did I dream that?

    Yes, we get "calcium ammonian nitrate" which won't go bang.
    UK ( and NI) get "ammonian nitrate"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    Did they change the ingredients of fertilser in Ireland to prevent it being made into an explosive? Or did I dream that?

    Here you go:
    S.I. No. 191/1972 - Explosives (Ammonium Nitrate and Sodium Chlorate) Order, 1972.
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1972/si/191


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    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Yes, we get "calcium ammonian nitrate" which won't go bang.
    UK ( and NI) get "ammonian nitrate"

    That's why we have parcel wizard.... Not that I am advocating importing fertiliser into the country.... Just so we're all clear


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