declaring family income on jobseekers application.

edwardkiley

Hi all.
My brother is applying for social welfare. As part of the application he asked me if
I have any income. I told him no but I am actually on the covid payment because he would tell other family members which would cause me to loose my accomodation. My parents are letting me stay at their house currently cause they think i have no income to pay for rent. Is it likely for welfare to reject my brothers application for welfare because of this does anyone know?
thanks for your replies. its been a tough time for me loosing my job and being cut income.

splinter65

edwardkiley wrote: »

Hi all.
My brother is applying for social welfare. As part of the application he asked me if
I have any income. I told him no but I am actually on the covid payment because he would tell other family members which would cause me to loose my accomodation. My parents are letting me stay at their house currently cause they think i have no income to pay for rent. Is it likely for welfare to reject my brothers application for welfare because of this does anyone know?
thanks for your replies. its been a tough time for me loosing my job and being cut income.

Your income will have no affect on his application, and his application will have no effect on your payment. Please don’t worry.

edwardkiley

splinter65 wrote: »

Your income will have no affect on his application, and his application will have no effect on your payment. Please don’t worry.

Its this form though.

https://assets.gov.ie/24920/f93565af8bed495a817b8d7fbb18482a.pdf

its the supplementary form allowance form.
In part 4 of the form you have to state who else lives in the household and their income.

Ill be thrown out the house though if I tell him . its a complicated and long situation.

What are the chances of welfare rejecting my brothers application for him not declaring i was on the covid payment? I know this probably a hard question to answer.

Nozebleed

you dont have to enter any details that don't pertain to the applicant. simply write. I dont have access to that infomation.

splinter65

edwardkiley wrote: »

Its this form though.

https://assets.gov.ie/24920/f93565af8bed495a817b8d7fbb18482a.pdf

its the supplementary form allowance form.
In part 4 of the form you have to state who else lives in the household and their income.

Ill be thrown out the house though if I tell him . its a complicated and long situation.

What are the chances of welfare rejecting my brothers application for him not declaring i was on the covid payment? I know this probably a hard question to answer.

That’s tricky for you. Tell him that you’ve got advice and that you’ve been told that he can safely write “not available” in the box where he’s to write I your income, and that it will not interfere in anyway with his application for SWA.
I don’t wish to pry but I hope you find somewhere else to live soon.

edwardkiley

I wish I could move out.
If I tell him to write that he will most likely figure out I am on covid.
Is it likely they will look into my income?

edwardkiley

splinter65 wrote: »

That’s tricky for you. Tell him that you’ve got advice and that you’ve been told that he can safely write “not available” in the box where he’s to write I your income, and that it will not interfere in anyway with his application for SWA.
I don’t wish to pry but I hope you find somewhere else to live soon.

Nozebleed wrote: »

you dont have to enter any details that don't pertain to the applicant. simply write. I dont have access to that infomation.

he's writing the application form. If I tell him to write that he will figure out im on covid and probably tell my parents about this.

splinter65

edwardkiley wrote: »

he's writing the application form. If I tell him to write that he will figure out im on covid and probably tell my parents about this.

This is more about your own personal problems then SW. I’m afraid you will have to sort this out with your brother. You can just tell him that you don’t want to talk about money and that he should ring Citizens Information for more help. And walk away.

lughildanach

Your circumstances will not likely have any relevance to your brother's application. Means of siblings or other housemates (except parents if you are under 25, or spouses/partners) do not count in the means test for any regular social welfare payment.

If he is applying for Fuel Allowance, they will check to make sure who else at the address is registered for a social welfare payment (as all people in the house must on a relevant social welfare payment to be eligible), but we are not in the fuel season at the minute, and its unlikely he would be applying for fuel allowance at this stage anyway, as he won't have the 15 months required.

Chances are very slim that it would have any effect. But at the end of the day, if you have not given him the information, then he can't be blamed for not passing it on to social welfare. I wouldn't worry about it.

The most likely thing to be affected by a relative (or indeed anyone else) staying at the address of someone on social welfare is the possible loss of Living Alone Allowance. But that doesn't seem to apply to your circumstances at all. People also used to be worried about losing their Household Benefits (Free TV license etc.) but they changed the rules for that earlier this year so that other people could live in the house without it affecting entitlement.