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General Premier League Thread 2019-20 #Mod Notes First post [Updated 24/07/20]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Rock77


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Did I see that they needed to win the game and were 0-1 down after 90 minutes. I read that the other day but don't remember it. Must have been a sickener for whoever was second. Wasn't us was it?

    No wasn’t Liverpool, they finished 8th that year...

    I was watching city in the pub, it was almost over and I was still saying ‘we haven’t done it yet’ the wife says ‘cmon, relax it’s just over and they need 2 goals’

    I eventually said ‘i can’t believe we’re going to win it’

    Bang, City get 2 goals and I was as sick as a pig......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,892 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Esse85 wrote: »
    To say there's not a hope is just silly rather than controversial.

    He has to be in the running based on his longevity, his individual performance, his contribution to the team performance and what they won, the impact he's made at the club.

    You compare this to any Man City player ever, and simply David Silva has to be included in the conversation.

    What are your criteria for deciding a clubs "best ever player" and then tell us the players that fit that criteria?

    My thinking behind it is that I don’t think he’s ever been the best player in the team at any one given time. Aguero, De Bruyne, Sterling all way superior imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,954 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    I was in college at the time so I was working weekends & unfortunately missed it live.

    My work colleague/friend was sharing the floor with me that day & the security guard on duty was a die-hard United supporter, I mean die-hard!

    Coming towards the end they were in celebration mode naturally enough so I congratulated them & popped upstairs for a p1ss.

    I came back downstairs then & the lads were at the computer looking like someone had died.

    Obviously they'd seen what happened which probably wasn't too far off for them, I couldn't believe it when they told me what had happened.

    I decided was not going to watch it so I called over to see my Aul lad but of course he had the City game on and it was the start of second half when I walked in

    I'll never forget the two of us jumping around the living room screaming when the winning goal went in ,

    Both absolutely delighted to see United had lost it in the final second of the season ,me Liverpool fan and him a life long passionate Leeds fan ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    I was in college at the time so I was working weekends & unfortunately missed it live.

    My work colleague/friend was sharing the floor with me that day & the security guard on duty was a die-hard United supporter, I mean die-hard!

    Coming towards the end they were in celebration mode naturally enough so I congratulated them & popped upstairs for a p1ss.

    I came back downstairs then & the lads were at the computer looking like someone had died.

    Obviously they'd seen what happened which probably wasn't too far off for them, I couldn't believe it when they told me what had happened.

    i worked with a united fan at the time and as he got out of his car united had won and the league was over as far as he was concerned, by the time he got upstairs and logged into his desk City won haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Did I see that they needed to win the game and were 0-1 down after 90 minutes. I read that the other day but don't remember it. Must have been a sickener for whoever was second. Wasn't us was it?

    No, Liverpool finished in 8th that season with 52 points.... was the great Man Utd finished 2nd on goal difference.
    Was actually during a time when United won 5 PL titles out of 7 years...... that's what you call dominating and a great team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,223 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    No, Liverpool finished in 8th that season with 52 points.... was the great Man Utd finished 2nd on goal difference.
    Was actually during a time when United won 5 PL titles out of 7 years...... that's what you call dominating and a great team.

    you wouldn't be like,yano,talking about the past now would ya :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,901 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Fixtures for the 2020/2021 season are released tomorrow morning at 9.00 am.

    Does that mean we get a nice new shiny thread?

    Also, I presume that the usual permutations such as no intra-top 6 games etc apply to the new fixture list. Because all 4 English teams exited the European competitions during the 'Festival of Football', I don't think that there will be any more than 1 gameweek effected with postponements because of the 30 day rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    you wouldn't be like,yano,talking about the past now would ya :pac:

    Just answering a question..... sure everything before today is the past......

    anyhow... learned from the best......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,210 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Fitz* wrote: »
    Fixtures for the 2020/2021 season are released tomorrow morning at 9.00 am.

    Does that mean we get a nice new shiny thread?

    Also, I presume that the usual permutations such as no intra-top 6 games etc apply to the new fixture list. Because all 4 English teams exited the European competitions during the 'Festival of Football', I don't think that there will be any more than 1 gameweek effected with postponements because of the 30 day rule.

    Ya I think the two manchester clubs wont be in matchday 1.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,170 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    DVDM93 wrote: »

    It's interesting enough to see numbers put to it, but it doesn't really mean much... Pep's not trying to do that. He's spending a lot of money for top level players. He's not trying to improve players, so much as integrate already great players to work together, so it's not terribly surprising that their values tend not to rise.

    What it does mean, is the bar for success is that bit higher. Anything other than winning and winning and winning is effectively falling short as they're working with an array of finished products in every position that other clubs don't have access to, rather than players you need to mould. Though in fairness, I'd say he has improved Sterling in particular, and also KDB from already excellent players to the next level.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    DVDM93 wrote: »

    I don't understand the stat. Perhaps it's the pints. Is there a decimal missing?

    But what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,078 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I don't understand the stat. Perhaps it's the pints. Is there a decimal missing?

    But what?

    What do you not understand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,892 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    noodler wrote: »
    What do you not understand?

    Who is measuring the referenced value?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,170 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    CSF wrote: »
    Who is measuring the referenced value?

    Presumably Transfermarkt or one of them yokes.

    Never a fan of those sorts of valuations - you can't really attribute value until someone pays it.

    Still though, it's not like they're figures that are being used for any more than a rough guide to making a point, and in that sense, they do tell the story they're being used to tell. Even if someone disagrees with the specific figures a bit one way or the other, it's hard to argue with the point.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,333 ✭✭✭brinty


    noodler wrote:
    What do you not understand?

    The fact there's random numbers on a tweet from a random Twitter person

    No context
    No support

    I mean I could tweet that b and I wouldn't be wrong but I also wouldn't be right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,078 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    brinty wrote: »
    The fact there's random numbers on a tweet from a random Twitter person

    No context
    No support

    I mean I could tweet that b and I wouldn't be wrong but I also wouldn't be right

    It's fairly clearly laid out on the tweet thread.

    You hardly expect an explanation in a single tweet with 144 characters or whatever it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    noodler wrote: »
    It's fairly clearly laid out on the tweet thread.

    You hardly expect an explanation in a single tweet with 144 characters or whatever it is.

    More misinformation, a tweet can be up to 280 characters long, has been since 2018.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    I genuinely believe we could fight about anything :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Pep isn't a "value added" manager and he has never needed to be, he buys at the top end at mega-clubs and is judged on what they win, not what they can be sold for.


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