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Mazda MX-30

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭ ewj1978


    Never knew Mazda went EV.

    Doors are the same as the I3. Looks a bigger bus though. Should be interesting.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,862 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    That's a great looking car in fairness. A bit pricey, but Mazda have moved up the quality ladder a good bit in recent years and I would nearly describe them as semi-premium now. A step up from the likes of Hyundai / Toyota at this stage. Hard to gauge what size it is, more like Kona or more like Niro?

    And I have of course been saying it for years. Most EVs does not need to have a >60kWh battery even if it is the single family car for most people. We do need a better charging infrastructure though.

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 6,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ liamog


    Apparently available in January 2021. 35.5 kWh battery, but I'm assuming with an advertised range of 200km they are sharing the total battery rather than usable.
    There has been talk of including a rotary engine as a range extender in future versions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭ adunis


    Looks a contender to me,I'm of the same mind set as unkel re. range/infrastructure,also agree with his Mazda assesment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭ JohnC.


    Not much room in the back in those pictures.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭ Old diesel


    I'd be wondering what the efficiency is like.

    So is it a genuine all year 100 mile range car for example or is it going to drop to 85 to 90 miles if given the boot with full heat in winter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,512 ✭✭✭✭ Lumen


    "People can quickly recharge the battery because it’s not so big"

    Smaller battery cars do not charge faster, this statement is simply not true.

    It would be almost unusable for long motorway journeys, you'd be stopping every hour for half an hour to top up from 10 to 80%, and that's with available chargers.

    Of course many households have two cars and don't need both for road trips, but it's disingenuous to say that it isn't a limitation.

    Tesla could maybe produce a 35kWh car that charges at 70kW average from 10 to 80%, but Mazda?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭ Del2005


    Lumen wrote: »
    "People can quickly recharge the battery because it’s not so big"

    Smaller battery cars do not charge faster, this statement is simply not true.

    It would be almost unusable for long motorway journeys, you'd be stopping every hour for half an hour to top up from 10 to 80%, and that's with available chargers.

    Of course many households have two cars and don't need both for road trips, but it's disingenuous to say that it isn't a limitation.

    Tesla could maybe produce a 35kWh car that charges at 70kW average from 10 to 80%, but Mazda?

    The majority of trips in cars are well within the range it has. If you are doing regular long distances you don't buy a vehicle with short range.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,512 ✭✭✭✭ Lumen


    Del2005 wrote: »
    The majority of trips in cars are well within the range it has. If you are doing regular long distances you don't buy a vehicle with short range.

    Which makes it a good candidate for one car in a household, but not the only car.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,862 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    I've had a car with less range than this one as the only family car for 3 years. No problems. We are in Dublin though, all family is in Dublin (or abroad) and all work is too. We rarely need to go beyond the range of the car and on the few occasions we did, we destination charged overnight. Or very rarely needed to use the public fast charging network (a handful of times over 3 years)

    I'd say many people in the Dublin area are the same. Most people I observe stick €20 worth of fuel into their car when they fill up. That doesn't give any more range than that of an EV with a very small battery. Says it all...

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,404 ✭✭✭ Old diesel


    unkel wrote: »
    I've had a car with less range than this one as the only family car for 3 years. No problems. We are in Dublin though, all family is in Dublin (or abroad) and all work is too. We rarely need to go beyond the range of the car and on the few occasions we did, we destination charged overnight. Or very rarely needed to use the public fast charging network (a handful of times over 3 years)

    I'd say many people in the Dublin area are the same. Most people I observe stick €20 worth of fuel into their car when they fill up. That doesn't give any more range than that of an EV with a very small battery. Says it all...

    The Ioniq is a very efficient car.

    If the Mazda's real world range is as good as Ioniq 28 then it's not a bad price at all imo.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 58,862 CMod ✭✭✭✭ unkel


    Old diesel wrote: »
    The Ioniq is a very efficient car.

    If the Mazda's real world range is as good as Ioniq 28 then it's not a bad price at all imo.

    WLTP range is expected to be 200km. That's the same as Ioniq 28

    Linky

    "Wind is Ireland's oil" - An Taoiseach, 25/05/2022



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 6,084 Mod ✭✭✭✭ liamog


    I'm looking at the numbers on EVDB real range, they adapt the figures a little bit. The Ioniq figure seems reasonable

    Ioniq 28: 195km
    Mini Cooper SE: 185km
    Mazda MX-30: 180km
    Honda E: 200km


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭ who_ru


    https://youtu.be/v_kB2BWdU9M

    autogefuhl review - overall very positive. it's probably the best spec'd EV for the price i would say. rear door set up may not be to everyone's liking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,379 ✭✭✭✭ Mad_Lad


    Looks to be more room in the i3, her old man is 6 foot 5 and has no issues sitting in the back of the i3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,379 ✭✭✭✭ Mad_Lad


    Where's the Rex like PHEV they were supposed to release ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭ Normal One



    Bob delivers another review!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭ kanuseeme


    Mad_Lad wrote: »
    Where's the Rex like PHEV they were supposed to release ?

    Mazda MX-30 With Rotary Engine to be sold in the US, does not give much details like when or charging speeds, but it seems to have the 35 kWh battery.

    https://insideevs.com/news/464599/mazda-mx-30-rotary-engine-us/

    I seem to remember something on TV about Mazda drivers with rotary engines greeting each other on the road with fingers held high representing how many engines they had replaced :D:D:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭ Miscreant


    kanuseeme wrote: »
    I seem to remember something on TV about Mazda drivers with rotary engines greeting each other on the road with fingers held high representing how many engines they had replaced :D:D:D

    That'll have been about the NSU Ro80 when it was available many years ago. They went bust partially because of all the warranty replacement engines they had to give out (and then Mazda bought them over I believe). Mazda has not been too bad in this area and rotary engines are better known about nowadays so there are specialists out there who can take care of them.
    Strange that they are going with a small rotary as a generator for the PHEV though, surely that would not be particularly fuel efficient, even if operating at a constant RPM?


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