Extinction Rebellion folks?

Pkiernan

Wondering where they have gone.

I noticed that none of them show up at our biannual town cleanups.
So much for thinking globally and acting locally!

Just us middle aged tax payers down in the ditches on a Saturday pulling out the litter. Pretty depressing when you see what people dump and throw out of their cars.

Was the whole ER movement just an ineffectual fad then?

McMurphy

Pkiernan wrote: »

Wondering where they have gone?

They're all extinct.

jim salter

McMurphy wrote: »

They're all extinct.

Hopefully

This is a straw man if I ever saw one. Extinction Rebellion has nothing to do with cleaning up litter. They've got their sights set way higher. Something like changing the systems in place to prevent the litter being created in the first place.

Eric Cartman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is a straw man if I ever saw one. Extinction Rebellion has nothing to do with cleaning up litter. They've got their sights set way higher. Something like changing the systems in place to prevent the litter being created in the first place.

Nah, theyre anarchists who realise their ‘socialist revolution’ wont be stomached by the general public so dress it up with the environment instead. They just want unreachable targets for business, to bankrupt the meat industry and to install a far left government by proxy.

Utter loons.

Its the green party for people who hate their parents and cant find work.

Thelonious Monk

Picking up litter albeit a nice gesture is kind of pointless, for everything you pick up factories are pumping out more and more of this crap non stop. The whole system of consumption needs to change. I don't know why people hold them in such contempt given the damage our capitalist machine is doing to the planet, something has to change or we're all doomed.
What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

Pkiernan

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Picking up litter albeit a nice gesture is kind of pointless, for everything you pick up factories are pumping out more and more of this crap non stop. The whole system of consumption needs to change. I don't know why people hold them in such contempt given the damage our capitalist machine is doing to the planet, something has to change or we're all doomed.
What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

It's not pointless.

Getting high and blocking traffic is pointless.

Try cleaning up something instead of moaning.

ER are just a bunch of lazy hypocrites.

RandomViewer

Assume they've joined the anti-lockdown brigade, Gemma as a leading eco activist? "Gulp"

O'Neill

Albeit in a minority. Not all of those who are part of it are ‘lefties’, apparently there are a few on the far right who participate in it.

Pkiernan

O'Neill wrote: »

Albeit in a minority. Not all of those who are part of it are ‘lefties’, apparently there are a few on the far right who participate in it.

Hardly far right.

Hitler was far right.

Modern day lefties think FF are far right.

Thelonious Monk

Pkiernan wrote: »

It's not pointless.

Getting high and blocking traffic is pointless.

Try cleaning up something instead of moaning.

ER are just a bunch of lazy hypocrites.

Who is getting high? Are you sure you're not talking about stereotypical hippies from the summer of love San Francisco or something?

Nermal

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

Um... yes? Why wouldn't I be afraid of that?

Thelonious Monk

Nermal wrote: »

Um... yes? Why wouldn't I be afraid of that?

It's just kind of sad that any attempt to fix our environment boils down to people unwilling to give anything up and demanding to have whatever they want whenever they want, it will be the death of our planet.

Thelonious Monk

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Nah, theyre anarchists who realise their ‘socialist revolution’ wont be stomached by the general public so dress it up with the environment instead. They just want unreachable targets for business, to bankrupt the meat industry and to install a far left government by proxy.

Utter loons.

Its the green party for people who hate their parents and cant find work.

Eric how can you blame the basket case that is the meat industry in Ireland on the greens or ER?

O'Neill

Pkiernan wrote: »

Hardly far right.

Hitler was far right.

Modern day lefties think FF are far right.

Eco-fascism you call it apparently.

Pkiernan

O'Neill wrote: »

Eco-fascism you call it apparently.

Another Twitter Eco warrior .

Try doing something tangible.
It feels rewarding!

Pkiernan

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It's just kind of sad that any attempt to fix our environment boils down to people unwilling to give anything up and demanding to have whatever they want whenever they want, it will be the death of our planet.

What have you done to help the planet?

Surely this international lockdown has done more for envirnoment,than anything in the last 200 odd years??


Id be suprised,if there wasnt some sort of measurable improvement by end of year in ozone layers?

O'Neill

Pkiernan wrote: »

Another Twitter Eco warrior .

Try doing something tangible.
It feels rewarding!

Nermal

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely this international lockdown has done more for envirnoment,than anything in the last 200 odd years??

Prepare for an unpleasant surprise so. CO2 is going to be down about 5% this year. To do that we have had to spend a quarter of the year indoors and trigger the worst depression in three centuries.

The Green Party want us to stick to a plan involving reductions of over 7% per year, every year, until we start absorbing CO2 back from the atmosphere.

Our civilisation is built on carbon - if you want to build one that isn't, fair enough. But be honest, tell people the truth - that it will be a civilisation of poverty.

0lddog

Pkiernan wrote: »

Wondering where they have gone.

I noticed that none of them show up at our biannual town cleanups.
So much for thinking globally and acting locally!.....

OP, I'm wondering who you mean.

Is it the Irish equivalent of whats reported today on https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000j7h2 ( skip to 7min 30sec or so ) ?

Nermal

Nermal wrote: »

Prepare for an unpleasant surprise so. CO2 is going to be down about 5% this year. To do that we have had to spend a quarter of the year indoors and trigger the worst depression in three centuries.

The Green Party want us to stick to a plan involving reductions of over 7% per year, every year, until we start absorbing CO2 back from the atmosphere.

Our civilisation is built on carbon - if you want to build one that isn't, fair enough. But be honest, tell people the truth - that it will be a civilisation of poverty.

It will be interesting to see the effect on likes of ozone layer/global warming,air quality etc


We'll soon know,how serious or otherwise this issue is,

Montage of Feck

Anybody watched planet of the humans on YouTube?

Galwayguy35

Best clip I saw was a few months ago when 2 of them were on the roof of a train stopping it from moving which in turn was going to make people late for work.

They annoyed the wrong crowd that time because they caught one of them and gave him a few digs.

I'd say the dirty crusties are keeping out of the way these days because they know people are in no humour for their antics.

RobbingBandit

They've not gone away you know.

Omackeral

They’re with the Occupy people that were camping on Dame Street at the Central Bank. Probably off looking for Kony at the minute.

CalamariFritti

So its OK to spread to every last corner of the globe in the name of 'growth' and leave an ecological wasteland behind? That will not be a problem at all, no?

Whatever about their current make-up but ecological preservation has no mandate at all. Is that what you guys are saying, yes?

_Brian

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Picking up litter albeit a nice gesture is kind of pointless, for everything you pick up factories are pumping out more and more of this crap non stop. The whole system of consumption needs to change. I don't know why people hold them in such contempt given the damage our capitalist machine is doing to the planet, something has to change or we're all doomed.
What is it you're all actually afraid of? Having less money?

What idiocy is this ??!

Picking up litter is pointless ??

ER blocked up streets making a nuisance of themselves calling for a change to “the system” while they were seen in their droves in and out of McDonalds and Costa supporting fast food, non recyclable packaging slave labour and industrial farming.

Yet you give them a pass on litter picking in their own locality.


They were out to make a fuss and he seen on social media. They had no other motive other than to be seen to be asking for a change without actually having to do anything difficult themselves.

Countless clips online of ER representatives being totally dismantled by interviewers as having nothing but double standards and not actually making an effort to live the life they wanted to push onto others.

https://youtu.be/8ISePLL1wcw

Dr. Bre

Why weren’t extinction out protesting the lockdown?

CalamariFritti

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Why weren’t extinction out protesting the lockdown?

Corona is quite likely to be a consequence of overpopulation and mass animal production, so in that sense your question is valid. But I don't know the answer, I guess some probably were. But don't forget gatherings are not allowed at the moment.

_Brian

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Why weren’t extinction out protesting the lockdown?

The lockdown has been great for the planet
Governments need to figure ways the emulate the lockdown in every day life.

Massive taxes on air travel would be an obvious thing to do and keep planes out of the sky. Massive taxes on each shipping container every time it’s loaded onto a ship. Reduces all the plastic tat being needlessly produced and shipped. It also gives an advantage to locally produced goods increasing gnp and local jobs.

These two things alone would make a massive difference.

Castlekeeper

_Brian wrote: »

What idiocy is this ??!

Picking up litter is pointless ??

ER blocked up streets making a nuisance of themselves calling for a change to “the system” while they were seen in their droves in and out of McDonalds and Costa supporting fast food, non recyclable packaging slave labour and industrial farming.

Yet you give them a pass on litter picking in their own locality.


They were out to make a fuss and he seen on social media. They had no other motive other than to be seen to be asking for a change without actually having to do anything difficult themselves.

Countless clips online of ER representatives being totally dismantled by interviewers as having nothing but double standards and not actually making an effort to live the life they wanted to push onto others.

https://youtu.be/8ISePLL1wcw

Not answering for Theologies but as a rural litter picker, who participates in the modern world. Unfortunately while it is locally beneficial, if said litter is then shipped to rural Asia and scattered out in random cowboy "recycling facilities", it is rather pointless. I still hope that by both litter picking and supporting policies that reduce litter production and promote more effective waste management that that things will improve
Do you think the keeping status quo is the best option so and any aspiration, hope, or ambition for an ecologically better future for our planet is hypocritical unless one is a troglodyte?

Paddygreen

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Corona is quite likely to be a consequence of overpopulation and mass animal production, so in that sense your question is valid. But I don't know the answer, I guess some probably were. But don't forget gatherings are not allowed at the moment.

Research suggests the bats in China wouldn’t have gotten sick if it wasn’t for climate change.

Castlekeeper

Paddygreen wrote: »

Research suggests the bats in China wouldn’t have gotten sick if it wasn’t for climate change.

That's an amazing conclusion..could you put up a link please?

CalamariFritti

Paddygreen wrote: »

Research suggests the bats in China wouldn’t have gotten sick if it wasn’t for climate change.

I quite like your efforts over the last few days. Keep it up. Some gems there. And for everyone else, yes, Im serious.

Eric Cartman

Omackeral wrote: »

They’re with the Occupy people that were camping on Dame Street at the Central Bank. Probably off looking for Kony at the minute.

Id bet money most of them were at that too, perpetually trying to smash the system and back home to mammy and daddys house in blackrock till the next thinky veiled attack on the financial system

Eric Cartman

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Eric how can you blame the basket case that is the meat industry in Ireland on the greens or ER?

I dont even know how to respond to that gross misrepresentation of my post

Thelonious Monk

_Brian wrote: »

What idiocy is this ??!

Picking up litter is pointless ??

Yes I went to a couple of beach cleanups here in Dublin, and was disheartened how much is there and how quickly it is replaced. It's like trying to clean up Hiroshima with a pan and brush. We need to change how we consume.

Thelonious Monk

We have the likes of this going on all the time in Ireland, illegal destruction of nature, usually by farmers. We have barely any trees or wildlife left here and then you have this kind of wanton destruction going on by f*cking imbeciles. The guy who posted the video reported to the Garda and no one wants to know. This is nesting season.

https://twitter.com/the_beeguy/status/1261008834560172032

biko

They're in basements all over the world.
Biding their time, watching, waiting - while their mam is cooking for them.

Thelonious Monk

CalamariFritti wrote: »

So its OK to spread to every last corner of the globe in the name of 'growth' and leave an ecological wasteland behind? That will not be a problem at all, no?

Whatever about their current make-up but ecological preservation has no mandate at all. Is that what you guys are saying, yes?

Of of course, they all care about the environment - as long as it doesn't mean they have to change their lifestyles one tiny bit.

RandomViewer

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes I went to a couple of beach cleanups here in Dublin, and was disheartened how much is there and how quickly it is replaced. It's like trying to clean up Hiroshima with a pan and brush. We need to change how we consume.

Stuff coming in from the sea is decades old, would be 60 years before you saw a difference in the sea waste if you banned all packaging

CalamariFritti

Well if its that bad the sooner we start the better then.

AlekSmart

Paddygreen wrote: »

Research suggests the bats in China wouldn’t have gotten sick if it wasn’t for climate change.

Ah but Paddy,a mhíc....'Twas not the Bat that died....twas the Man !' with apologies to Mr O.Goldsmith

RandomViewer

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

We have the likes of this going on all the time in Ireland, illegal destruction of nature, usually by farmers. We have barely any trees or wildlife left here and then you have this kind of wanton destruction going on by f*cking imbeciles. The guy who posted the video reported to the Garda and no one wants to know. This is nesting season.

https://twitter.com/the_beeguy/status/1261008834560172032

I grew up in the 70's, in rural Donegal , every field had either crop or livestock , now there is hardly any of either, just bushes and rushes, so stop telling misleading info.

SEPT 23 1989

Looking forward to the videos of these well healed weirdos blocking working class people trying to get back to work after a couple of months on the dole

Micky 32

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

something has to change or we're all doomed.

Interesting post especially when i saw a post of yours on one of the covid threads saying that you didn’t care about the patients in ICU because you don’t know them. So you now suddenly care about everyone on the planet?

Micky 32

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

It's just kind of sad that any attempt to fix our environment boils down to people unwilling to give anything up and demanding to have whatever they want whenever they want, it will be the death of our planet.

Let me guess, the things you want people to give up on are things that don’t affect you?

Micky 32

_Brian wrote: »

The lockdown has been great for the planet
Governments need to figure ways the emulate the lockdown in every day life.

Massive taxes on air travel would be an obvious thing to do and keep planes out of the sky. Massive taxes on each shipping container every time it’s loaded onto a ship.

Lol

jim salter

_Brian wrote: »

The lockdown has been great for the planet
Governments need to figure ways the emulate the lockdown in every day life.

Massive taxes on air travel would be an obvious thing to do and keep planes out of the sky. Massive taxes on each shipping container every time it’s loaded onto a ship. Reduces all the plastic tat being needlessly produced and shipped. It also gives an advantage to locally produced goods increasing gnp and local jobs.

These two things alone would make a massive difference.

Were you born stupid or did you work really, really hard at it?

Micky 32

jim salter wrote: »

Were you born stupid or did you work really, really hard at it?

I’d say it’s just a wind up :-)