Will our weather break long term

cacs

It’s a complete guess will our weather break long term. When ever we had a prolonged period of dry around it broke in early June with no return to good weather for a long time. I have silage to cut. Based in Mayo crop is very poor due to the dry weather. Fertilised six weeks. But on average poor to average bulk. Might knock it next week and take what I get if I am we see a change coming on the farming weather forecast on Sunday. What are you doing

_Brian

cacs wrote: »

It’s a complete guess will our weather break long term. When ever we had a prolonged period of dry around it broke in early June with no return to good weather for a long time. I have silage to cut. Based in Mayo crop is very poor due to the dry weather. Fertilised six weeks. But on average poor to average bulk. Might knock it next week and take what I get if I am we see a change coming on the farming weather forecast on Sunday. What are you doing

Six weeks of poor growth you should get the N tested to be sure it’s clear, otherwise it will preserve poorly.

Personally I think longer grass is drawing enough dew to keep it growing a bit. Cutting it bare will remove that and stop all growth until the weather breaks.

Bass Reeves

cacs wrote: »

It’s a complete guess will our weather break long term. When ever we had a prolonged period of dry around it broke in early June with no return to good weather for a long time. I have silage to cut. Based in Mayo crop is very poor due to the dry weather. Fertilised six weeks. But on average poor to average bulk. Might knock it next week and take what I get if I am we see a change coming on the farming weather forecast on Sunday. What are you doing

Beware of N in silage after hit weather. Hot dry weather releases N from lower ground levels up to be available to grass. Growing conditions will not have used up N maybe either. Really necessary to check N if cutting at present. Unless on heavy ground regrowth will be poor.

We are in a waning moon, new moon the 21st I think. I have noticed over the years that during the summer if weather is settled around the moon change phase it remains that way

farawaygrass

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Beware of N in silage after hit weather. Hot dry weather releases N from lower ground levels up to be available to grass. Growing conditions will not have used up N maybe either. Really necessary to check N if cutting at present. Unless on heavy ground regrowth will be poor.

We are in a waning moon, new moon the 21st I think. I have noticed over the years that during the summer if weather is settled around the moon change phase it remains that way

An elderly neighbour here is always watching the moon and weather after hearing it from an island man years ago. His theory is whatever the weather is for the few days of the last quarter then expect 3 weeks of that. So if it’s unsettled/fine/wet then expect 3 weeks of that. Don’t really follow it myself so it’d be wrong for me to say it’s bull but I’d be a bit sceptical tbh. He says it’s a good indication though.

jimini0

farawaygrass wrote: »

An elderly neighbour here is always watching the moon and weather after hearing it from an island man years ago. His theory is whatever the weather is for the few days of the last quarter then expect 3 weeks of that. So if it’s unsettled/fine/wet then expect 3 weeks of that. Don’t really follow it myself so it’d be wrong for me to say it’s bull but I’d be a bit sceptical tbh. He says it’s a good indication though.

You have to remember in the old days before fancy satellites. The people had ways of telling what the short term weather was goin to be. Where I live if the mountain looks close its goin to rain. If it looks far away its goin to be fine. If the seagulls are more than a mile inland there is weather coming. Also weather changes with the turn of the tide. So people could tell a few things from that too.

Bass Reeves

farawaygrass wrote: »

An elderly neighbour here is always watching the moon and weather after hearing it from an island man years ago. His theory is whatever the weather is for the few days of the last quarter then expect 3 weeks of that. So if it’s unsettled/fine/wet then expect 3 weeks of that. Don’t really follow it myself so it’d be wrong for me to say it’s bull but I’d be a bit sceptical tbh. He says it’s a good indication though.

What I have noticed over the years is it works better in spring summer than winter. Present spell of weather settled after waning moon in March.

Siamsa Sessions

The guy who wrote The Farming Ladder said he learned how to predict the weather from old shepards in Yorkshire. Those guys used the moon to manage the sheep too - rams went out after a certain number of new moons and then would start lambing a certain number of days after the 5th new moon appeared filling that. Think it was around 1930s he was talking about

Danzy

Going to cut in 10 days time, probably will be lighter than hoped for but don't want to get caught with weather.

Meadows have been disappointing so far.

Say my name

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

The guy who wrote The Farming Ladder said he learned how to predict the weather from old shepards in Yorkshire. Those guys used the moon to manage the sheep too - rams went out after a certain number of new moons and then would start lambing a certain number of days after the 5th new moon appeared filling that. Think it was around 1930s he was talking about

And to think that knowledge was passed down from generation to generation from who knows how long ago.

Back in the Neolithic age. Stone circles were often built with 13 standing stones. It can't be a coincidence that there's 13 moons a year.
And I bet they had names for every new moon just like we have for the months?
If you were a dozy lad and didn't know the time of year. You'd probably ask your neighbour and they'd point to which stone it was..

cacs

Say my name wrote: »

And to think that knowledge was passed down from generation to generation from who knows how long ago.

Back in the Neolithic age. Stone circles were often built with 13 standing stones. It can't be a coincidence that there's 13 moons a year.
And I bet they had names for every new moon just like we have for the months?
If you were a dozy lad and didn't know the time of year. You'd probably ask your neighbour and they'd point to which stone it was..

My father in law was a fisherman. He said if the weather changes on a new moon that pattern will continue until the next new moon. Who knows all I know is to silage now you would get a shocking bad yield

GrasstoMilk

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Beware of N in silage after hit weather. Hot dry weather releases N from lower ground levels up to be available to grass. Growing conditions will not have used up N maybe either. Really necessary to check N if cutting at present. Unless on heavy ground regrowth will be poor.

We are in a waning moon, new moon the 21st I think. I have noticed over the years that during the summer if weather is settled around the moon change phase it remains that way

You have that back wards if I'm not mistaken. Dry weather like this atm grass is slow to grow and N stays in the ground, when it rains N becomes available and you get luxury uptake, that's when the issue is.

Get the crop tested, if the sugars are good then cut away

Birdnuts

Latest models suggest some rain towards next weekend(mainly West) then a return to drier conditions

Sugarbowl

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

You have that back wards if I'm not mistaken. Dry weather like this atm grass is slow to grow and N stays in the ground, when it rains N becomes available and you get luxury uptake, that's when the issue is.

Get the crop tested, if the sugars are good then cut away

So do you mean if grass was cut before the rain, you probably would not have an issue with N in the grass?

cacs

Birdnuts wrote: »

Latest models suggest some rain towards next weekend(mainly West) then a return to drier conditions

I like your version of the weather

Danzy

Driest spring on record so far.

In Dublin anyway, though that's about right for most of the country.

farawaygrass

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

The guy who wrote The Farming Ladder said he learned how to predict the weather from old shepards in Yorkshire. Those guys used the moon to manage the sheep too - rams went out after a certain number of new moons and then would start lambing a certain number of days after the 5th new moon appeared filling that. Think it was around 1930s he was talking about

Dad said when he was young the moon was used for timing of planing potatoes and squeezing bull caves. I remember him watching it for the squeezing myself. As another poster said it’s a pity the information is being lost

Mooooo

Danzy wrote: »

Driest spring on record so far.

In Dublin anyway, though that's about right for most of the country.

Hardly? Feb and March were very wet didn't get round to finish first round as so wet alongvwith heifers a few weeks late going out.

Danzy

Mooooo wrote: »

Hardly? Feb and March were very wet didn't get round to finish first round as so wet alongvwith heifers a few weeks late going out.

True, typed before thinking, driest spring in Dublin airport, in century. 44mm now vs 65mm in 1944.

Lot of rain in parts early on.

3 the square

cacs wrote: »

It’s a complete guess will our weather break long term. When ever we had a prolonged period of dry around it broke in early June with no return to good weather for a long time. I have silage to cut. Based in Mayo crop is very poor due to the dry weather. Fertilised six weeks. But on average poor to average bulk. Might knock it next week and take what I get if I am we see a change coming on the farming weather forecast on Sunday. What are you doing

Did you cut it ??

cacs

3 the square wrote: »

Did you cut it ??

Cutting today bale tomorrow evening

Neddyusa

Mooooo wrote: »

Hardly? Feb and March were very wet didn't get round to finish first round as so wet alongvwith heifers a few weeks late going out.

Feb not included. And rain stopped here on 17th March.
Spring for weather stats = Mar,Apr,May.
Went from the wettest winter to the driest spring on record in some parts!