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Potential situation with neighbour.

  • 11-05-2020 9:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭


    Hi all ,

    Just looking for some clarity / options available.

    I purchased a house two years ago , the house is end of terrace with a side entrance. My neighbour has an extension build proof to my purchase that comes over my property by approx 6 inches. This creates future problems potentially with any work that I may want to get done. Wondering what options are available to me ?


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    good luck trying to prove a 6" encroachment from land registry maps.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    good luck trying to prove a 6" encroachment from land registry maps.....

    Ok. So any advice ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Hi all ,

    Just looking for some clarity / options available.

    I purchased a house two years ago , the house is end of terrace with a side entrance. My neighbour has an extension build proof to my purchase that comes over my property by approx 6 inches. This creates future problems potentially with any work that I may want to get done. Wondering what options are available to me ?
    Was the extension there before you bought or has it been built since?


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    can you explain this phrase please:

    My neighbour has an extension build proof to my purchase


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    These kind of things can end up making thousands for solicitors and surveyors with the only outcome being a falling out between neighbours.
    You bought the property with this issue already in place so do you really want to go chasing this now?
    Is it a roof overhang that encroaches or what?
    If so, would a redesign with a parapet type detail solve the problem.
    Could you talk to neighbour. Maybe some agreement could be reached if you wanted to build a similar extension.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    can you explain this phrase please:

    His extension was built prior to my purchase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    His extension was built prior to my purchase.

    Feck all can be done at this point that makes financial sense to you then..
    Build a bridge.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    His extension was built prior to my purchase.

    Then it's caveat emptor, you bought as seen.

    You would find it INCREDIBLY difficult to prove a 150mm encroachment based on maps.

    I'd also advise as above. Stay friendly with the neighbour and design out the "potential problem" if you are extending yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    OP,
    As asked above
    picture or a sketch giving context would be helpful.
    For example is it the whole boundary wall that is 6 "...
    or a whole 2 story extension....
    or is it the facia and soffit board overhang resultant from an extension.
    Context and extent matters as well as what you have in mind that you think this 6" issue impairs your development options

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    Pretty much my neighbour has an extension built on my property/land. It is clear as day that approx. one concrete block( approx. 6/7" ) is over the boundary line/wall for the length of his extension.

    Edit added a picture.


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  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pretty much my neighbour has an extension built on my property/land. It is clear as day that approx. one concrete block( approx. 6/7" ) is over the boundary line/wall for the length of his extension.

    Edit added a picture.

    Could it not be considered a party wall?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,887 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Pretty much my neighbour has an extension built on my property/land. It is clear as day that approx. one concrete block( approx. 6/7" ) is over the boundary line/wall for the length of his extension.

    Edit added a picture.
    That picture shows nothing.

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Pretty much my neighbour has an extension built on my property/land. It is clear as day that approx. one concrete block( approx. 6/7" ) is over the boundary line/wall for the length of his extension.

    It's NOT "clear as day", perhaps the "boundary line/wall" is on your side of the actual boundary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Erm. The picture shows a block and render in top of existing wall. Nothing more.

    Also you bought the house like this. What exactly is the gripe or have you been sitting in the backyard with all this time off looking at this new found anomaly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    If they had the permission of the landowner at the time, and you bought it with it already having been constructed, there's nothing to be done.

    If you want to build your own extension in the future, it'd be worth engaging with your neighbours to see how their extension was built, as the agreement they may have had with the previous owner was to construct the wall in such a way that you could build on to it and use it as a shared party wall (subject to correct detailing etc), which means if anything, it could be beneficial that it's there.

    As for now though, in terms of what options you have... None. It's there. They (almost certainly) built it with the agreement of the owner at the time, and you bought it knowing it was like that. If you want to build in the future, design it into your proposal as best you can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Revit Man


    Let it go. It's nothing.

    If you are building in future, then this can be resolved readily at the time, this is no stumbling block and not worth creating war with your neighbours over.

    You're looking for trouble when there doesn't need to be any.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    There is absolutely nothing "clear as day" in that cropped fuzzy picture.

    Seems like your neighbour built a new wall to act as the party wall..... Probably with full knowledge and permission of the previous owner.

    Happy days for you, you now have a party wall you can build off, and not have the expense of building a new wall yourself along this line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭20 Times 20 Times


    Ok thanks everyone for the replies.


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