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Travel to Wales

  • 11-05-2020 7:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭


    Hey All,

    Hope someone can help/advise me on this.

    The girlfriend lives in Wales and I'm planning on staying with her for a month or more as I'm eligible to work remotely and we've been advised that we won't be returning to site until October at the earliest.

    I'm going to be going by ferry but will the North Wales police stop me? Would I need to provide evidence of essential travel? Would the gardai in Dublin Port stop and ask for the same?

    Appreciate the help


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Huza91 wrote: »

    I'm going to be going by ferry but will the North Wales police stop me? Would I need to provide evidence of essential travel? Would the gardai in Dublin Port stop and ask for the same?

    Appreciate the help


    Would expect the Welsh police will ask questions and for proof of your essential travel. You'd be better off asking your girlfriend to check what the restrictions are for Wales at the moment, it will be on their local government websites. I would imagine you will be expected to self isolate (even from her) for two weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,959 ✭✭✭✭scudzilla


    NWP have been really on the ball over the last few weeks (i'm from there and most of my family are still there), they've been turning people back home who have been going to snowdonia, how that would work if you're from Ireland i don't know.

    Give them a call and find out, guessing as previous poster said, you'd have to quarantine for 2wks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,628 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Huza91 wrote: »
    Hey All,

    Hope someone can help/advise me on this.

    The girlfriend lives in Wales and I'm planning on staying with her for a month or more as I'm eligible to work remotely and we've been advised that we won't be returning to site until October at the earliest.

    I'm going to be going by ferry but will the North Wales police stop me? Would I need to provide evidence of essential travel? Would the gardai in Dublin Port stop and ask for the same?

    Appreciate the help

    People from England may now travel any distance for exercise. NOrth Wales POlice & Crime Commissioner has stated that the law in Wales has not changed and they will use all powers to send people back. IN UK, people are not permitted to travel to their second homes. You may very wellnot be subject to isolation whne you get off the boat but you might be precluded from heading to your girlfriend's place for a month as you do not live there.

    I don't think travel from your home to Dublon Port would be lawful here either. You are not changing your residence, you are merely heading off on a holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    The other thing is if the Welsh police dont want this kind of travel and it starts happening they'll ring up the Gardai and tell them not to allow people to board any Wales bound ferry departing from Dublin.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    The other thing is if the Welsh police dont want this kind of travel and it starts happening they'll ring up the Gardai and tell them not to allow people to board any Wales bound ferry departing from Dublin.

    The Gardai do not have that level of power.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    The Gardai do not have that level of power.

    Not in law but you could be advised by them at Dublin port that if you arrive in Holyhead you're going to be turned back. There would be no point traveling then anyway.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Not in law but you could be advised by them at Dublin port that if you arrive in Holyhead you're going to be turned back. There would be no point traveling then anyway.

    But they are not turning people back at Holyhead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Yeah thats why I said could. They're turning people back from Snodonia National Park so its clear they do not want people holidaying there. EU today has given countries permission to manage their own borders in any way they see fit.

    In any case we are restricted here to 5km for exercise. The Gardai have the power to enforce only essential travel. The OPs journey to Wales to see his girlfriend does not meet the definition of essential travel and if stopped he is liable to being turned back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yeah thats why I said could. They're turning people back from Snodonia National Park so its clear they do not want people holidaying there. EU today has given countries permission to manage their own borders in any way they see fit.

    In any case we are restricted here to 5km for exercise. The Gardai have the power to enforce only essential travel. The OPs journey to Wales to see his girlfriend does not meet the definition of essential travel and if stopped he is liable to being turned back.

    Hearing about one person that had a fine issued when he was stopped by a Garda in the last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,717 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    People from England wanting to travel to beauty spots in Wales this weekend will "find they are on the wrong side of the law", the first minister has warned.

    Mark Drakeford said "now is not the right moment" for people from outside of Wales to cross the border, as he unveiled the country's new traffic light system to help ease the coronavirus lockdown. He told Sky News: "My message to people in England is please visit Wales later.

    "We are very keen to welcome people and always have been, but now is not the right moment.
    "In Wales the law is that you can only travel locally. So people travelling long distances to come into Wales will find they are on the wrong side of the law."
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-welsh-first-minister-urges-english-not-to-travel-to-wales-this-weekend-11988853


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