The teacher blaming begins...

JizzBeans

Here we go again folks, it didn't take long for the idle to start taking swipes at teachers again. This time its "too much homework" and "no online teaching" and as usual its the teachers fault.


Again, the ignorant are dominating the narrative here and I would like to voice my/teachers side of the situation.


1. "Too much homework" Your kid normally spends a full day working in school anyway, how is a couple of hours of homework any different? If you as a parent are too lazy to maintain disciple at home, that's YOUR problem.
In any case, if you think the HW is too much then tell your child they don't have to do it, its not illegal.



2. "No online teaching" This is a logistical nightmare, completely wrapped in red tape and teachers have no say.

• It is virtually impossible to gather all students from a specific class and get them online at a specific time, and its unfair to tutor some and not others.
• I teach in a school with a high proportion of disadvantaged students, not all have the setup to do this.
• The more loutish and trouble making students simply are not interested.
• Child safety concerns feature heavily here, we are strongly advised not to speak with students on there own, location has to be appropriate, i.e, no bedrooms, appropriate attire, etc, etc. I just do not want to risk any sort of issue.

People wanted stronger child safety practices and this is the fruit it bares. So take it up with them, not my problem.





Furthermore, the pandemic affects EVERYBODY, not just your kids. Its not teachers fault and we are not babysitters for you to "get out for a while"


Your children are YOUR responsibility.


If you feel strongly about online education then why don't YOU work out the logistics, address the safety concerns, set it all up and then I will gladly help out.



If you don't want to go to that trouble, which I suspect you don't, then complain to the dept. of education or you local TD.

Rufeo

I don't have any children. Are you a teacher?

average_runner

To be honest I think you are showing your ignorance big time.

For example when you have two parents working from home(we are lucky), it can be very hard to manage the homework, teaching and working at the same time.

We are lucky our kids school is doing loads to help us.

They have given us a schedule that we can work into our day, ie PE with Joe at 9,
break till 10, homework 11-12, Rte teaching hub 11-12. Afternoon some more work and reading.

Each morning the homework is sent out early so we can organize the day with them. But the teacher is also available all day to email etc.

But the school has made sure people aren't under pressure to complete it all.

Now if we had a 2 year old and the other two it would be a massive struggle and a lot of families are like that.

michellie

This probably could have been posted in the "School not using Video Conferencing but lashing out the homework" thread, no?

jimmycrackcorm

JizzBeans wrote: »

Furthermore, the pandemic affects EVERYBODY, not just your kids. Its not teachers fault and we are not babysitters for you to "get out for a while"


Your children are YOUR responsibility.


If you feel strongly about online education then why don't YOU work out the logistics, address the safety concerns, set it all up and then I will gladly help out.



If you don't want to go to that trouble, which I suspect you don't, then complain to the dept. of education or you local TD.

I have a feeling that if teachers had a choice between figuring out solutions or being temporarily laid off with the 350 pandemic covid-19 payment instead, that they'd be coming up with solutions PDQ. Clever cloggs that they are.

Donald Trump

The teachers will do nothing unless they are actually forced to do it.

Even then, they'd be trying to squeeze out extra payment for doing what they have already been paid to do.

James Bond Junior

I am the principal of a large primary school in the middle east. We are 100% online for the past 6 weeks and after a slow start we are in the swing of it, with 90% attendance last week. Teachers are sitting at laptops and delivering live video lessons all day.

Talking to my Irish teaching friends back home, the will to work online ranges from totally wanting to get to work to finding any excuse or downright refusal. It can be done, even for small kids but the reality of the situation is parents need to step in. They are the primary educators no matter what, so it falls on their shoulders with teachers helping and facilitating.

My advice to parents is, try to stick to the daily school routine, ask the teacher for the timetable and stick rigidly to it including snack and lunchtime/playtime. Keep stress to a minimum, youtube and google is your friend.

And to any teacher who says they can't do it, bar not having a reliable internet connection, there is zero excuse not to be teaching online in some way. Google classroom, Class Dojo, Zoom, Google hangouts, Microsoft teams l, TES blendspace, Twinkl and many more applications are free at the moment so check them out. PM me if you are a teacher or educator looking for advice, I was where you were now 5 weeks ago and all is good once you are willing to settle in, keep an open mind and try.

super_furry

JizzBeans wrote: »

Here we go again folks, it didn't take long for the idle to start taking swipes at teachers again. This time its "too much homework" and "no online teaching" and as usual its the teachers fault.

Who's saying that? Where is it coming from? Haven't seen anything of the like.

Trekky77

super_furry wrote: »

Who's saying that? Where is it coming from? Haven't seen anything of the like.

Super Furry, this person is not a teacher, I have come across his/her drivel in the past. They are just looking to stir sh*t and actually I think bring negativity to the profession.

No self-respecting teacher would call their students louts. Please ignore the sad attempt at looking for attention.

JizzBeans

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I have a feeling that if teachers had a choice between figuring out solutions or being temporarily laid off with the 350 pandemic covid-19 payment instead, that they'd be coming up with solutions PDQ. Clever cloggs that they are.

It's not our responsibility to come up with solutions.

JizzBeans

Trekky77 wrote: »

Super Furry, this person is not a teacher, I have come across his/her drivel in the past. They are just looking to stir sh*t and actually I think bring negativity to the profession.

No self-respecting teacher would call their students louts. Please ignore the sad attempt at looking for attention.

There are louts all across society, school is no different, what's so unbelievable about that?

teachinggal123

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Talking to my Irish teaching friends back home, the will to work online ranges from totally wanting to get to work to finding any excuse or downright refusal.

Most of my colleagues have used all of these excuses and have refused to go online. Many have done absolutely nothing since 12 March.

James Bond Junior wrote: »

And to any teacher who says they can't do it, bar not having a reliable internet connection, there is zero excuse not to be teaching online in some way.

The excuse is that they don't have to. And there will be no consequences for the teacher who refuses to do anything.

JizzBeans

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I am the principal of a large primary school in the middle east. We are 100% online for the past 6 weeks and after a slow start we are in the swing of it, with 90% attendance last week. Teachers are sitting at laptops and delivering live video lessons all day.

Talking to my Irish teaching friends back home, the will to work online ranges from totally wanting to get to work to finding any excuse or downright refusal. It can be done, even for small kids but the reality of the situation is parents need to step in. They are the primary educators no matter what, so it falls on their shoulders with teachers helping and facilitating.

My advice to parents is, try to stick to the daily school routine, ask the teacher for the timetable and stick rigidly to it including snack and lunchtime/playtime. Keep stress to a minimum, youtube and google is your friend.

And to any teacher who says they can't do it, bar not having a reliable internet connection, there is zero excuse not to be teaching online in some way. Google classroom, Class Dojo, Zoom, Google hangouts, Microsoft teams l, TES blendspace, Twinkl and many more applications are free at the moment so check them out. PM me if you are a teacher or educator looking for advice, I was where you were now 5 weeks ago and all is good once you are willing to settle in, keep an open mind and try.

Like I said child safety concerns

One eyed Jack

JizzBeans wrote: »

If you as a parent are too lazy to maintain disciple at home, that's YOUR problem.

People wanted stronger child safety practices and this is the fruit it bares. So take it up with them, not my problem.

You’re having a laugh, surely?

Trekky77

My one and only reply to you troll. I will not engage in your nonsense, I was just letting Super Furry know that you are not a teacher and instead are a troll. You attack the vulnerable, call people scumbags and 'scummy' that you don't know and are generally attention seeking.

I do have a bit of advice, if you are alone or recieving little attention from anybody and struggle with your identity, there are organisations out there that can help you.

Trekky77

One eyed Jack wrote: »

You’re having a laugh, surely?

This person is not a teacher, have a look at their previous messages - attention seeking and definitely not a teacher!!

The Bishop Basher

JizzBeans wrote: »

It's not our responsibility to come up with solutions.

9935452

JizzBeans wrote: »

It's not our responsibility to come up with solutions.

I know a few teachers that kinda had that attitude until it was explained to them that if they werent seen to be doing something they could get redeployed to the likes of hospitals ,socialwelfare offices, contact tracing, care homes and the likes as they are civil servants

Mrcaramelchoc

James Bond Junior wrote: »

I am the principal of a large primary school in the middle east.

Wow do you get shot at much ?................couldn't resist sorry.

Tokyo

Mod:

Not going to let this thread degenerate into the troll-fest that was the previous thread on this.

For those interested, the topic is being discussed more rationally here:
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058071593

Thread closed.