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Tenant Moving Out Early

  • 13-04-2020 6:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭


    Hi all,
    I have a tenant 2 weeks into his months rental come forward to say he is leaving at the end of this week.
    He is in the property over 2 years and I had retained 1 months rent as deposit.
    Even if I retain the deposit I will be falling short due to the 56 days notice period required from a tenant...
    Any ideas?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    You could pursue the tenant for the balance while trying to mitigate your losses by re-letting.

    Being pragmatic, I'm not convinced it would be worth the hassle. Maybe lodge a dispute with the RTB but don't count on a quick/satisfactory resolution.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 Ihavetheaids


    Hi all,
    I have a tenant 2 weeks into his months rental come forward to say he is leaving at the end of this week.
    He is in the property over 2 years and I had retained 1 months rent as deposit.
    Even if I retain the deposit I will be falling short due to the 56 days notice period required from a tenant...
    Any ideas?
    Get a real job ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 Ihavetheaids


    Graham wrote: »
    You could pursue the tenant for the balance while trying to mitigate your losses by re-letting.

    Being pragmatic, I'm not convinced it would be worth the hassle. Maybe lodge a dispute with the RTB but don't count on a quick/satisfactory resolution.

    Don’t know why it was removed but get a real job ?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mod Note

    Ihavetheaids, Don't Post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    So if I got my maths straight you will be down a month's rent, right?
    As you can hold on to their deposit and they have already paid this month's rent. So you'd be missing 4 weeks rent if he did give you notice at the first of April.

    So I say have a chat with them. See what they say. If they go tough... Just cut your losses and advertise the place for someone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    Just get them out and get your property back safely.

    If you do a load of manouvering looking for more money they will just hold the property for longer.

    Get it ready, get it rented again to someone who wants to live there as soon as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Hi OP

    you have 2 weeks rent, and a months deposit = 44 days. you will be out 56 -44 = 12 days at most - if you fail to re-let (assuming you keep deposit). if you rent sooner you could be making money on this deal.

    What is your main issue here tht you were looking for advice on?

    I suggest you see can you get a new tenant soon as possible. You cannot ascribe any blame to tenant for the challanging market conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Dick Turnip


    I'm confused, what is the 56 day notice period? Did the tenant not say they are leaving at the end of the week??


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    There are minimum notice periods for landlords and tenants defined in the Residential Tenancies Act. The longer the tenancy, the longer the notice period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    I'm confused, what is the 56 day notice period? Did the tenant not say they are leaving at the end of the week??
    Check out PRTB regulations re notice. This isnt 1975


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    You got two good years out of the tenant and he got two good years tenancy. There are times to be a bit flexible. Whats due to you wont pass you by


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Edgware wrote: »
    You got two good years out of the tenant and he got two good years tenancy. There are times to be a bit flexible. Whats due to you wont pass you by

    You know what, that's the best advice.
    Far worse positions to be in op and as another said just try and get someone in asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭overkill602


    notice periods are only applicable to LL
    I do no term leases requiring 1 months notice from tenant had only 1 tenant leave in two yrs they had someone as a suitable replacement.
    but my standards/service would be high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭10pennymixup


    notice periods are only applicable to LL
    I do no term leases requiring 1 months notice from tenant had only 1 tenant leave in two yrs they had someone as a suitable replacement.
    but my standards/service would be high

    Not correct, they apply to both.


    Duration of a tenancy Tenants notice periods
    Less than 6 months 28 days
    6+ months, but less than 1 year 35 days
    1+ year, but less than 2 years 42 days
    2+ years but less than 4 years 56 days
    4+ years but less than 8 years 84 days
    8+ years 112 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I wonder are you allowed to travel to show it or get it ready for the new tenant under the current rules?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    notice periods are only applicable to LL
    I do no term leases requiring 1 months notice from tenant had only 1 tenant leave in two yrs they had someone as a suitable replacement.
    but my standards/service would be high

    Your standards have little bearing on the success, or otherwise, of a tenancy- you've been lucky, very lucky- because if you genuinely haven't a clue regarding notice periods, I'd question what else you're unfamiliar with.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 52 ✭✭IndieRoar111


    Greedy LLs like this give LLs a bad name.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Greedy LLs like this give LLs a bad name.
    In what way is the LL being greedy?
    There was a contract and one side is reneging on it. Would it be ok for the LL to abruptly end the lease like the tenant is doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭daedal


    In what way is the LL being greedy?
    There was a contract and one side is reneging on it. Would it be ok for the LL to abruptly end the lease like the tenant is doing?

    The circumstances could have drastically changed for the tenant due to the pandemic, so the landlord should take into account the current situation and maybe question why the tenant needs to leave rather than be concerned about what money they are missing out on. I’m sure the tenants have paid way over the odds for the property in the last 2 years and the landlord should give them a break, especially in these uncertain times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    I’d just take the 2 weeks notice and let them out of the lease the month early without penalty or retaining deposit -unless money is due for outstanding bills or there is serious damage.Its a tough time and if their income / job is gone snd they’ve been good tenants for 2 years just be nice and do a kind thing for them. You might need a break some day too and not want someone be to the letter of the law with you.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,214 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    daedal wrote: »
    The circumstances could have drastically changed for the tenant due to the pandemic,
    There are supports available. Have you checked if the OP's tenant applied for them?
    daedal wrote: »
    so the landlord should take into account the current situation and maybe question why the tenant needs to leave rather than be concerned about what money they are missing out on.
    You're assuming that the OP has not considered this. My take on it is that the tenant handed in their notice without any discussion so had made up their mind.
    daedal wrote: »
    I’m sure the tenants have paid way over the odds for the property in the last 2 years and the landlord should give them a break, especially in these uncertain times.
    This is just bitter and begrudging spiteful nonsense. You've absolutely no idea on the amount charged each month or whether the OP is actually making any money. You also don't appear to care for the OP who has made a a financial commitment which still needs to be met in these uncertain times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭Jjohnrockk


    Greedy LLs like this give LLs a bad name.

    Why should notice increase to be honest for tenant. In many countries notice remain same. That too in countries with oversupply. Here landlord can easily rent in few days. Strange


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    You have two weeks now and there will be one week where the room is completely free for viewings. You could fill the room in that time?

    Sure you can keep the deposit but there was a solid relationship for two years, let them move on.


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