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Metal health and buying a gun

  • 12-04-2020 5:55pm
    Registered Users Posts: 9,647 ✭✭✭ cena

    If you suffer with depression would that go against you when to get a licence for gun


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 TheEngineer1

    cena wrote: »
    If you suffer with depression would that go against you when to get a licence for gun

    Not necessarily, on the license application form you are asked do you suffer from mental health issues. Answering yes to this does not disqualify you from being granted a license, but it does mean that the guards will probably check up with your doctor to see if your condition is bad enough that it might affect your ability to safely have a gun.

    No matter what though, you must answer truthfully on the form, as if it is discovered later that you lied then you could be in a lot of hot water.

  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭ JohnFitz2332

    cena wrote: »
    If you suffer with depression would that go against you when to get a licence for gun

    You should be truthful on your application, and the FO may want to discuss with your GP or mental health professionals who have treated you (You should include contact details for these too). Having depression does not disqualify you from owning a firearm. As long as you have a genuine and legitimate reason to own one, and are not a danger to yourself or anyone else, and as long as you are of good character, you should be fine.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45

    As the OP is specifically asking about depression.

    "Depression" is a very hard one to call.It is a recognised illness,but people can function and continue normally to a certain degree in day to day life with it in many cases.Winston Churchill was a prime example of a depressive,he coined the phrase "The black dog of depression"Jim Carey and Steve Martin are both manic depressives,Robin Wiliams was is apprently Barrack Obama.

    So just saying you have "depression" is not a kill all either. Everyone gets a "blue funk" once inawhile which can depend on the serverity of the situation,death of a loved one,job loss ,etc.
    But it depends on how long an episode affects the person.Some people take longer than others to greive and move on,and start functioning to societal expected normalacy.
    But they can still function in everyday life,more or less.But if they are so bad that they cant function to do the basics in life,and do need medications and professional mental help.Thats the cases that would red flag.

    But an GP is not going to put his reputation on the line and diagnose mental illness without professional training,and that's into head doctor field of expertise.
    Put it like this,if you are into him every other week for sedatives for four monthsand he has recommended you to a doc where you lie on a couch to tell him/her of your childhood problems,and have been doing so for the last year...That might Red flag.

    Or worse,you have witnessed a traumatic incident in your work,and your organisation has offered /orderd you go for counselling to deal with the now overused "PTSD" excuse. That will show up on your medical record,and HAS been used to refuse a restricted liscense here in one case sofar,despite the person been given a clean bil of health .:(

    It's a hard one to call from all three perspectives. the liscensee,as only you know your own mind the best. the medical side,as they can only work off the symptoms,and the Super who has to make a decision on this.

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"

  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭ freddieot

    OP talk with your GP (if it's you).

    Ask if the GP would be prepared to give you a letter stating that 'as far as he has determined based on having you as a patient for x period of time, he has not become aware of any reason why you should not be granted a firearms certificate.

    I got this done before on the advice of my solicitor not because I had any particular medical issue, but to rope off any potential side-tracking or nonsense during a court case. In the end it was not needed.

    No GP will certify that in their opinion you do not constitute a risk but usually they should not have an issue pointing out that they are not treating you for anything to any extent which could hinder your ability to safely hold a firearm - if that is the actual situation of course as cases can differ.

    I'm open to correction but if I recall correctly the experts consulted after Abbeylara determined that one would need about 90 hours consultation with someone to really determine if they were someone that should not hold a firearm.

  • Registered Users Posts: 478 ✭✭ Sika98k

    You could be going a bit rusty !

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,330 ✭✭✭✭ Grizzly 45

    Indeed! "metal health" is very important in firearms.IRust's their main enemy after politicans.:D

    Confucius say."He who says one man cannot change World. Never has eaten bat soup in Wuhan!"