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Problem with gate

  • 07-04-2020 4:03pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭


    This is the side gate of an elderly person. the hinge is pulling away and the other one is gone. Is this a welding job? If so can a welder come out and do it.? Will they need access to power? I cannot let anyone inside as though not covid the person has health issues


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    A couple more pictures from a bit further away will tell more of a story.

    From what I can see, they look like fabricated hinges rather than off the shelf, so yes, it would seem from that picture that they'll need to be welded.

    You can't really call a welder (or fabricator) to come out and do a job like you would with a plumber, as far as I know.

    If you know someone who's handy at stick welding (arc welding) they might be willing to come over and patch it up. They will need access to power


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    cletus wrote: »
    A couple more pictures from a bit further away will tell more of a story.

    From what I can see, they look like fabricated hinges rather than off the shelf, so yes, it would seem from that picture that they'll need to be welded.

    You can't really call a welder (or fabricator) to come out and do a job like you would with a plumber, as far as I know.

    If you know someone who's handy at stick welding (arc welding) they might be willing to come over and patch it up. They will need access to power
    OK some pics including the broken off one. What are fabricated hinges?. Will they need anything else besides power? Water?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,597 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    I presume your in Dublin

    it looks like that gate can lift off. you can get them to take it away and weld it properly with a mig welder. looks like a poor job from day one unless it got serious hardship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    I still don't know who you'd be calling to come collect it, and take it away, unless you know someone handy at welding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭SilverKrest


    Any nearby welder/ fabricator will more than likely have a mobile welder and work off there own generator so if you make a few calls they could do it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Won't be cheap. It's probably 30 minutes work, but nobody's going to charge you only 30 minutes labour if they've to make a house call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Why not buy a new hinge and put it on yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭mickward


    where are you located?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    Why not buy a new hinge and put it on yourself?
    i do not have a welder, how can i put it on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    i do not have a welder, how can i put it on?

    Bolt it on like the one that's on there already


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Bolt it on like the one that's on there already

    Huh....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    Bolt it on like the one that's on there already


    There is no spoon bolt.it is welded to the gate frame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    There is no spoon bolt.it is welded to the gate frame

    My apologies. I see that now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    If you're welding it yourself be careful - looks like it's galvanized.

    If it was me I'd cut off the old hinge completely and bolt on a new one. The gate must be an enormous weight to break a weld like that, even a poor weld.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,401 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    You could fit a couple of gate-hangers to the gate and the existing frame. You could even drill/tap the metal on the gate if you don't have access to a welder. Google gate hanger and you'll see what i mean.

    That said if you can clean up the metal (its probably galvanised so will need to be ground off) it is not a big deal to arc weld back on the hinges, even for someone who isn't amazing at welding. Just be careful of the fumes if its galvanised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    If you're welding it yourself be careful - looks like it's galvanized.

    If it was me I'd cut off the old hinge completely and bolt on a new one. The gate must be an enormous weight to break a weld like that, even a poor weld.

    No poor welds can actually be extremely poor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    My apologies. I see that now.
    no problem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    You could fit a couple of gate-hangers to the gate and the existing frame. You could even drill/tap the metal on the gate if you don't have access to a welder. Google gate hanger and you'll see what i mean.

    That said if you can clean up the metal (its probably galvanised so will need to be ground off) it is not a big deal to arc weld back on the hinges, even for someone who isn't amazing at welding. Just be careful of the fumes if its galvanised.
    OK thanks
    Google gate hanger and you'll see what i mean.
    like https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/Garden-Gate-Hangers/139948/bn_93740815 ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    listermint wrote: »
    No poor welds can actually be extremely poor.
    it got caught in a gust when there was a storm and it blew it beyond the point it was meant to go and presumably tore the weld off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    it got caught in a gust when there was a storm and it blew it beyond the point it was meant to go and presumably tore the weld off

    Properly prepared and completed weld the hinge pin would have bent first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    A straight hinge could work.

    A few holes drilled in it and the gate, then a bolt and a lock nut going through it and the eye on the frame.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=508834&stc=1&d=1586380943

    If you were in Dublin I could sort it for ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    A straight hinge could work.

    A few holes drilled in it and the gate, then a bolt and a lock nut going through it and the eye on the frame.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=508834&stc=1&d=1586380943

    If you were in Dublin I could sort it for ya.
    Thanks that link says invalid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Lift off the gate and bring it to a lad with a miggy.
    Aldi sell them regular so a friend of yours probably has one somewhere.
    Clean the hinge straighten it and weld it.10 minute job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    I read about welding it is very interesting . It says here https://www.metalsupermarkets.com/welding-galvanized-steel/ it is a "good idea to complete any welding or fabrication before galvanizing the steel"


    How would you know if this had been done. That is just curiosity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Thanks that link says invalid?

    Link is ok for me on pc but not on phone?

    Anyway..


    straight-hinge-1-265x265.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    Link is ok for me on pc but not on phone?

    Anyway..


    straight-hinge-1-265x265.jpg
    Thanks.I am on PC and it says invalid link. If drilling galavanise is there a problem like with welding. Would there be dangerous dust, would a respirator mask like a n95 be OK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Thanks.I am on PC and it says invalid link. If drilling galavanise is there a problem like with welding. Would there be dangerous dust, would a respirator mask like a n95 be OK

    No mask needed at all. It's the heat used welding galv that causes the dangerous fumes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 957 ✭✭✭80j2lc5y7u6qs9


    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    No mask needed at all. It's the heat used welding galv that causes the dangerous fumes.
    Ok thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,186 ✭✭✭cletus


    Came across this video in my Youtube feed, and it reminded me of this thread. At worst some of you might enjoy the video:)

    Couple of caveats, the work is being done for a comercial client, and it also would seem to be a recurring client

    That said, the guy charges $125 per hour to work onsite, with a two hour minimum callout. Otherwise he charges $100 per hour in his workshop



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