55k beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale

milhous

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread, but you know your Barges! I'm wondering at what price bracket does it become "not crazy" to buy one, especially with the newer engines that fall into a rather cheap tax rate and running costs.

There's the most beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale, it's 2017. I'm sure the kids would appreciate the limo compared to what I'm squeezing them into now!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/202002177412296

Would I be mad?

milhous

m17 wrote: »

You must have money to burn

I'd probably justify it in my head. Something like, "I'll keep it for ten years so that's cheap driving." I reckon they'll drop a lot over the next few months, won't help much as my current car would be in that category too.

bazz26

You would want your head examined to be parting with 55k on a car in the current climate. There are very tough times ahead for the motor trade and car industry in general. You could see the price of used cars like that fall off a cliff in the next few months or years depending how long it takes the economy to recover.

McCrack

milhous wrote: »

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread, but you know your Barges! I'm wondering at what price bracket does it become "not crazy" to buy one, especially with the newer engines that fall into a rather cheap tax rate and running costs.

There's the most beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale, it's 2017. I'm sure the kids would appreciate the limo compared to what I'm squeezing them into now!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/202002177412296

Would I be mad?

The fact you're questioning it and referring to "cheap tax rate" and running costs tells that car is not for you

Padraig Mor

milhous wrote: »

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread, but you know your Barges! I'm wondering at what price bracket does it become "not crazy" to buy one, especially with the newer engines that fall into a rather cheap tax rate and running costs.

There's the most beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale, it's 2017. I'm sure the kids would appreciate the limo compared to what I'm squeezing them into now!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/202002177412296

Would I be mad?

If you can afford it, go for it. That's a savage car with a great spec, from a reputable dealer. If the price is competitive (and I have no idea if it is), why not?

milhous

McCrack wrote: »

The fact you're questioning it and referring to "cheap tax rate" and running costs tells that car is not for you

Cheap tax and running costs are not a worry.
I was more considering when the time comes that the tax and running costs (for example a 5.0 petrol luxobarge) are extremely high and that in turn makes the car less desirable and is possibly the reason you can buy a sub 5k luxobarge (its irrelevant really but it was in my head from the previous pages).

I'm driving a mustang at the minute.

I'd imagine the mustang price will drop around the same rate as the 7 series too. So just depreciating on a different car really.

biko

milhous wrote: »

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread

55K is not even close to 5K
Moved to own thread

maddness

milhous wrote: »

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread, but you know your Barges! I'm wondering at what price bracket does it become "not crazy" to buy one, especially with the newer engines that fall into a rather cheap tax rate and running costs.

There's the most beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale, it's 2017. I'm sure the kids would appreciate the limo compared to what I'm squeezing them into now!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/202002177412296

Would I be mad?

I have one that I’m looking to sell. It’s not the long wheelbase but it’s a 171 with only 32,000 kilometres and still in BMW warranty and over a year of service pack on it too. If you have any interest PM me, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than that one.

milhous

maddness wrote: »

I have one that I’m looking to sell. It’s not the long wheelbase but it’s a 171 with only 32,000 kilometres and still in BMW warranty and over a year of service pack on it too. If you have any interest PM me, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than that one.

Thank you. I know it's probably madness but I only buy from main dealers.

sunnysoutheast

milhous wrote: »

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread, but you know your Barges! I'm wondering at what price bracket does it become "not crazy" to buy one, especially with the newer engines that fall into a rather cheap tax rate and running costs.

There's the most beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale, it's 2017. I'm sure the kids would appreciate the limo compared to what I'm squeezing them into now!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/202002177412296

Would I be mad?

Amazing car I'm sure but I think the risk is that whatever price it was when new is reflected in the cost to fix it if anything goes wrong.

One of our neighbours has had a few 7-series and I know he had one that had to be sold essentially for parts because it had innumerable electrical problems but was mechanically perfect. He's got one of the previous models now.

I nearly bought an E38 728i many years ago but it was sold by the dealer before I got there, I'd still have it now.....

moby2101

Superb car, my brother has that model, I've taken it on a few 400km+ spins, it's a pleasure to drive.
That Price is crazy tho.

As others have rightly pointed out, not a great time to be parting with large sums of cash for cars/houses.
I'd imagine you'll easily buy that for ~45-48K when restrictions are eased back in the next 4-6 weeks.

I'd highly recommend buying from Colm Quinn, especially the lads in Athlone. My wife's last 2 cars were bought there.
Excellent aftersales team there who really look after their customers.
They've serviced my imported 420 for the past 2 years, I'd highly recommend

milhous

Oh I'm presuming it's not going anywhere for a few months, and there will be a lot of thought put into it in the meantime.
The plan is to wait for the reductions in price. As mentioned though, my car will devalue at the same rate if not quicker but I'm gonna see how it goes.

Have a hankering to get into something more comfortable.

Idbatterim

There’s a 2018 530e going from dealer in Kilkenny for e24,500. Might be more of a middle ground ...

Idbatterim

milhous wrote: »

Oh I'm presuming it's not going anywhere for a few months, and there will be a lot of thought put into it in the meantime.
The plan is to wait for the reductions in price. As mentioned though, my car will devalue at the same rate if not quicker but I'm gonna see how it goes.

Have a hankering to get into something more comfortable.

What mustang do you have ? Like year and cc? It might not necessarily depreciate as much as car like the seven

Here you go! A 730 d asking 2500 from dealer. Half joking , but I wouldn’t be going near A55k like that now. I’d say this time next year , you’d be looking at getting half that value of you went to trade In

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d-to-clear/24306287

milhous

Idbatterim wrote: »

What mustang do you have ? Like year and cc? It might not necessarily depreciate as much as car like the seven

Here you go! A 730 d asking 2500 from dealer. Half joking , but I wouldn’t be going near A55k like that now. I’d say this time next year , you’d be looking at getting half that value of you went to trade In

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-730d-to-clear/24306287

It's the ecoboost 2017. Sub 50 k km. Ford warranty tíl 2022. I'd say in the sub €30k bracket at this stage. Love the car but I'm using it increasingly more with the kids and it's just not ideal for it😂.

The back of that 7 series is heaven. Should def have a quick look at the video. And yes, completely unnecessary.

carsfan2

milhous wrote: »

Sorry, I know this is a sub 5k Luxobarge Thread, but you know your Barges! I'm wondering at what price bracket does it become "not crazy" to buy one, especially with the newer engines that fall into a rather cheap tax rate and running costs.

There's the most beautiful 7 Series Ld for sale, it's 2017. I'm sure the kids would appreciate the limo compared to what I'm squeezing them into now!

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/202002177412296

Would I be mad?

Short answer to your question is yes.

You must really love your kids and have much less messy ones than me, as there is no way the rear of the car will stay pristine for any length of time.
Also why give the best seats to the rear passengers unless you want to be a chauffeur?
You could pick up a short wheelbase one for a lot less that would be more than adequate.
Also I see that car has LH reg. Lots of people would want a D reg on a car like that and would not buy it for that reason alone.

milhous

carsfan2 wrote: »

Short answer to your question is yes.

You must really love your kids and have much less messy ones than me, as there is no way the rear of the car will stay pristine for any length of time.
Also why give the best seats to the rear passengers unless you want to be a chauffeur?
You could pick up a short wheelbase one for a lot less that would be more than adequate.
Also I see that car has LH reg. Lots of people would want a D reg on a car like that and would not buy it for that reason alone.

Yeah Id have to get car slippers for them😂.
Not really bothered about the reg.
Im going to ride it out a few months anyway and see where the prices go. There's plenty online and they're not going anywhere. So I'm going to consider myself not mad, and aim for quarter 3 or 4.

traco

In that price bracket the UK market would surely have to be considered. The newer diesel stuff is relatively low VRT and NOX not really an issue.

lfc200

Idbatterim wrote: »

There’s a 2018 530e going from dealer in Kilkenny for e24,500. Might be more of a middle ground ...

Where's that?

bazz26

lfc200 wrote: »

Where's that?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057886731&page=169

Dr Turk Turkelton

lfc200 wrote: »

Where's that?

Beside Waterford.

lfc200

bazz26 wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057886731&page=169

Thanks bazz, hadn't seen that!

Idbatterim

I would say shifting yours privately could be a nightmare and dealers will want their pound of flesh!

was just checking uk below, that is cheapest 171 m sport lwb

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202001316808898?maximum-mileage=60000&make=BMW&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2017&postcode=ls298jn&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=price-asc&model=7%20SERIES&keywords=lwb&radius=1500&page=1

the total cost of ownership of this car, would make an older high tax car like 3 litre plus, look like pocket change!

just saw this 530e m sport too... 2018 asking 30k from dealer...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2018-bmw-530e-m-sport-plus-i-performance/24567533

Idbatterim

update, the 530e SE from the dealer is sold, according to his website...

I actually think the m sport, might be better value. its 27,500 miles less and is an m sport...

Heres Johnny

Idbatterim wrote: »

update, the 530e SE from the dealer is sold, according to his website...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-bmw-530-e-auto-plug-in-hyrbid/24351891?campaign=3

Heres another to replace it, although it has higher miles... Also an msport with slightly lower mileage for 3k more from same dealer.
Prices seem to be in free fall and I expect this to continue. I'd say a lot will want to liquidate theur stock ASAP to get through this time.

Idbatterim

Heres Johnny wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-bmw-530-e-auto-plug-in-hyrbid/24351891?campaign=3

Heres another to replace it, although it has higher miles... Also an msport with slightly lower mileage for 3k more from same dealer.
Prices seem to be in free fall and I expect this to continue. I'd say a lot will want to liquidate theur stock ASAP to get through this time.

on cars where there is a lot of vaule, you'd wonder, will they fall much more. I mean , look for quick that 530e went and it was outside dublin (by that I just mean, a lot of people are very lazy, would like a car, but wouldnt even be bothered much more than down the road for it)...

just saw this in sarsfields stock, more like what op originally had in mind, E40k for a 730d m sport...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-bmw-730-d-m-sport-auto-mega-spec-finance/24056551?campaign=6

maddness

Idbatterim wrote: »

on cars where there is a lot of vaule, you'd wonder, will they fall much more. I mean , look for quick that 530e went and it was outside dublin (by that I just mean, a lot of people are very lazy, would like a car, but wouldnt even be bothered much more than down the road for it)...

just saw this in sarsfields stock, more like what op originally had in mind, E40k for a 730d m sport...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-bmw-730-d-m-sport-auto-mega-spec-finance/24056551?campaign=6

Yes but 79,000 miles on it.

Idbatterim

maddness wrote: »

Yes but 79,000 miles on it.

yeah , depends on how long you hold it for though, not going to make much of a difference to sale price, in several years...

milhous

Idbatterim wrote: »

on cars where there is a lot of vaule, you'd wonder, will they fall much more. I mean , look for quick that 530e went and it was outside dublin (by that I just mean, a lot of people are very lazy, would like a car, but wouldnt even be bothered much more than down the road for it)...

just saw this in sarsfields stock, more like what op originally had in mind, E40k for a 730d m sport...

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2017-bmw-730-d-m-sport-auto-mega-spec-finance/24056551?campaign=6

I've looked at all 7 seriea available. I would go with a main dealer though. Ideally for the money it would be a low mileage, one owner Irish car too. If it was an import but BMW are standing over it I'm alright with it.

I'm not sure about independants with low price high end cars, although it's more because I don't know much about them, I'm sure a lot are reputable.

Heres Johnny

15k in the difference for 42k miles or 79k miles is still a lot of money. In 6 or 7 years time both of those cars will be down between 5 and 10k euro anyway. I haven't taken spec differences into account I'd say the lwb is a bit better specced

milhous

Heres Johnny wrote: »

15k in the difference for 42k miles or 79k miles is still a lot of money. In 6 or 7 years time both of those cars will be down between 5 and 10k euro anyway. I haven't taken spec differences into account I'd say the lwb is a bit better specced

The long wheel base is the best spec I've seen for sale so far. Although from a main dealer the swb version is around 50k anyway. These are all subject to the firesale in the next month or two too.

Heres Johnny

milhous wrote: »

The long wheel base is the best spec I've seen for sale so far. Although from a main dealer the swb version is around 50k anyway. These are all subject to the firesale in the next month or two too.

Some result to get the one you like for the price of the cheaper one then... Best of luck it could well happen. Actually if it doesn't sell you probably will it's losing 20k a year already so who's to say it wouldn't lose 15k in 6 mths.

lfc200

What is the real world mpg out of the 530e in peoples experience?

Idbatterim

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Some result to get the one you like for the price of the cheaper one then... Best of luck it could well happen. Actually if it doesn't sell you probably will it's losing 20k a year already so who's to say it wouldn't lose 15k in 6 mths.

yeah agreed, people might so "oh look at the value now compared to a few weeks ago" they will be looking back in a few months or a year from now and thinking, the value was appalling!

one option op is, you could go into a 530e etc now for a year or two , switch to the seven then. They might not be far off in value in a year or two I reckon...

milhous

Heres Johnny wrote: »

Some result to get the one you like for the price of the cheaper one then... Best of luck it could well happen. Actually if it doesn't sell you probably will it's losing 20k a year already so who's to say it wouldn't lose 15k in 6 mths.

It will be interesting to see the price drops. If its as drastic as some are expecting I might keep the mustang and switch the other car for the 7 series.... That would be a nice driveway 😂

Idbatterim

milhous wrote: »

It will be interesting to see the price drops. If its as drastic as some are expecting I might keep the mustang and switch the other car for the 7 series.... That would be a nice driveway 😂

depends, I think it will be drastic on the likes of a 55k 7 series. On the 530e now etc, its depreciation that would be more than acceptable, in my opinion....

Heres Johnny

lfc200 wrote: »

What is the real world mpg out of the 530e in peoples experience?

From reading online short trip drivers are getting massive value and huge mpg, many claims of 70/80 mpg long term, others are getting just above petrol engine consumption in around 35mpg....and everything in between.
Also it depends on whether you are charging at work for free or paying for electricity from home.

For all but high milers I think they make ssnse over a diesel once you can plug them in and get half your power from petrol and half from electricity. I wouldn't be too hung up on the fuel costs whether I was paying 20 a week or 30 a week in one or the other. The 530e is a nicer car, and that's coming from a diesel driver

Idbatterim

or something like this? pretty imposing cars!

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-s350-lwb-2012/24425914?campaign=8

bf

Sure why not go all out

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/201912105204726

milhous

bf wrote: »

Sure why not go all out

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/201912105204726

The problem with looking at car is always... For an extra 5-10k I can get this. Turns into a minefield and you have to splash water on your face.

I nearly would go back for a luxobarge but I love the tech and connectivity too.

milhous

Anyone wanna buy a mustang? Gaurenteed not to lose value over the next few months, I promise😂😂.

maddness

That’s gorgeous.

milhous

maddness wrote: »

That’s gorgeous.

Yeah, tbf I still love it. The problem is its my car we would be looking to change. I'd say I could convince my wife on a 330e, it's take a fair bit of talking around to a 5series but there's no way she'd drive a limo. 😂

Padraig Mor

bf wrote: »

Sure why not go all out

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/bmw/7-series/fpa/201912105204726

If I could be arsed finding that Homer drooling pic I'd post it here. Wow, what a car.

Duke O Smiley

Trust me, you don’t want a long wheel base 7 series or S Class. They’re too big for everyday family car usage, it will wreck your head.

Eric Cartman

1) the 740d has more oomph , better buy if you can get one
2) if you're concerned about running costs, buy one from a bmw dealer with the 2 year unlimited miles warranty


Lovely cars. Had a 2018 730d rental in Germany for a week back then, great car but I felt it was underpowered a bit but very comfy. The surround camera system and comfort seats are an absolute essential , if you like your sounds theres 3 levels of audio system on them , try get the highest end one.

maddness

Eric Cartman wrote: »

1) the 740d has more oomph , better buy if you can get one
2) if you're concerned about running costs, buy one from a bmw dealer with the 2 year unlimited miles warranty


Lovely cars. Had a 2018 730d rental in Germany for a week back then, great car but I felt it was underpowered a bit but very comfy. The surround camera system and comfort seats are an absolute essential , if you like your sounds theres 3 levels of audio system on them , try get the highest end one.

The high end sound system is Bowers and Wilkins but it’s a €6000 option so is very rare. When I bought my car I was looking for one but there wasn’t a single 730 for sale in the UK with it fitted. It’s supposedly amazing but even the standard fit is far better than other BMW models and comes with a standard fit amp so is easy to upgrade. The comfort seats with massage function are standard and they are brilliant, they have lovely nappa leather too.

rabbitinlights

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Trust me, you don’t want a long wheel base 7 series or S Class. They’re too big for everyday family car usage, it will wreck your head.

This is very important and often over looked, I had a 740d for a week and absolutely loved it for the spin to Galway/Clare but found it VERY frustrating around town - carparks are a nightmare and I drive an F11 normally. The comfort didn't outweigh the daily inconvenience in my mind.

maddness

rabbitinlights wrote: »

This is very important and often over looked, I had a 740d for a week and absolutely loved it for the spin to Galway/Clare but found it VERY frustrating around town - carparks are a nightmare and I drive an F11 normally. The comfort didn't outweigh the daily inconvenience in my mind.

The standard car is about five inches longer than a current 5 series but the long wheel base version is a further seven inches longer again. I’d say parking in a 740L would be a pain in the arse.

bazz26

I find most multistory car parks are even a challenge for my F10 never mind a G11 or G12. It's all about filling as many spaces into a building as possible so smaller spaces are better.

maddness

bazz26 wrote: »

I find most multistory car parks are even a challenge for my F10 never mind a G11 or G12. It's all about filling as many spaces into a building as possible so smaller spaces are better.

I went from a F10 to a Golf and couldn’t believe how easy it was to park!
There’s no getting away from it, large cars are a pain to park but how big are the larger SUV’s?