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R Kings and other car raffles

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    unhappys10 wrote: »
    Rubbish, a car costs an average of €30, I don't think you'd have any trouble offloading it for a profit.

    Exactly, many of the cars are worth €20k - €30k once tax is paid and they frequently give the winner £2000 if VRT is owned to help pay some of it.
    I'm fairly sure you would still come out with a very nice profit if you were to sell the car.

    I think their business model may take advantage of those that have gambling problems but so do bookies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭mickwat155


    Exactly, many of the cars are worth €20k - €30k once tax is paid and they frequently give the winner £2000 if VRT is owned to help pay some of it.
    I'm fairly sure you would still come out with a very nice profit if you were to sell the car.

    I think their business model may take advantage of those that have gambling problems but so do bookies.

    I seen a comment yesterday where someone had spent over £2k on tickets and was still no better off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    mickwat155 wrote: »
    I seen a comment yesterday where someone had spent over £2k on tickets and was still no better off

    Yes and because Ireland is a small country there is a good chance you will know a friend of a friend who has won, giving people false hope of their chances of winning.

    But I'm not sure how you would protect these people from their own stupidity without also outlawing bookies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    Yes and because Ireland is a small country there is a good chance you will know a friend of a friend who has won, giving people false hope of their chances of winning.

    But I'm not sure how you would protect these people from their own stupidity without also outlawing bookies.
    Let them learn the hard way!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    Eoinbmw wrote: »
    Let them learn the hard way!

    They have an addiction, they won't.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Somepeople


    A lot of garages are raffling cars through go raffle it

    https://search.cro.ie/company/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=636415&type=C

    Status: strike off listed.

    What does that mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    Somepeople wrote: »
    A lot of garages are raffling cars through go raffle it

    https://search.cro.ie/company/CompanyDetails.aspx?id=636415&type=C

    Status: strike off listed.

    What does that mean?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=strike+off+listed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,668 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Eoinbmw wrote: »
    Let them learn the hard way!


    Some people go the the pub and drink 200 euro and piss it down the drain, some people buy a 20 euro raffle ticket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    Some people go the the pub and drink 200 euro and piss it down the drain, some people buy a 20 euro raffle ticket.

    The kind of people that drinks that much would not stop at one ticket in the same way they would not stop at a couple of pints.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


      Some people go the the pub and drink 200 euro and piss it down the drain, some people buy a 20 euro raffle ticket.
      Im talking about 2k in raffle tickets!
      20 euro now and again is a healthy bit of craic!


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    2. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭mikeym


      Facebook is flooded with all these raffle competitions.

      They all seem to be Northern Ireland companies.


    3. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      mikeym wrote: »
      Facebook is flooded with all these raffle competitions.

      They all seem to be Northern Ireland companies.

      Yes when one company succeeds you will always see many copy cats.
      I do think there must be something about the law in NI that makes it an attractive location to base these raffles. I also think their popularity and high visibility will lead to an eventual changes to the law in NI.


    4. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TigerTim


      Getting sick of them now. Every 2nd item on FB is a raffle now.

      R Kings had a nice yellow Ford RS2000 for raffle on Sat night. Sold out in 2 hours. Personal preference but I would prefer to see stuff like that raffled but wouldn't be for everyone,

      T.


    5. Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭mickwat155


      Just seen on Facebook carrafflesireland based in Cork is apparently a scam and done people out of money


    6. Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


      mickwat155 wrote: »
      Just seen on Facebook carrafflesireland based in Cork is apparently a scam and done people out of money

      It seems more that they're stupid rather than scammers to me, gobdaws.


    7. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


      From their FB Page:
      Attention
      As half the country knows by now we had an issue with our platform when trying to pick a winner for the BMW 420d Cash Alternative Cash or Car Competition.
      Because of this we are going to honour the original winner of the draw .
      The Kawasaki KX 250 draw went ahead smoothly and we have been in touch with who will be receiving his bike.
      Please note the amount of abuse and the witch hunt that this has turned into over doing a live draw has been more than just a headache for us!
      We can state the following with certainty however:
      • We are a genuine registered Competitions Company based out of Cork.
      • We are constantly in contact with Revenue to ensure compliance and that all our taxes etc are paid.
      • The word scam has been thrown around a lot. We are able and more than happy to prove to the relevant authorities that there is no such scam and we feel confident in the fact that we are a fully legitimate above board company and our book keeping is indeed up to date with Revenue.
      Sharing our personal Facebook Profile Pages and contacting us and even threatening us is simply not acceptable under any circumstance and members abusing us or the page may result in a ban from the page.
      Moving forward we will be using Googles Random Number Generator to keep it straight forward when choosing winners, we do admit we tried to be fancy and use an integrated generator (which cannot be fixed by us - again we are happy to prove this to the relevant authorities if needed).
      As the saying goes "if it ain't broke don't fix it" which is the case for how we tried to pick winners.
      At the end of the day we are only human so please keep that in mind when sending threatening messages or sharing personal details around.
      Cheers - Car Raffles Ireland


    8. Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


      Mc Love wrote: »
      From their FB Page:

      Ah, stupid it is so


    9. Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭mickwat155




    10. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


      Same thing happened on the first Win Car Ireland draw too. The announced the wrong winner.


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    12. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      mickwat155 wrote: »
      Just seen on Facebook carrafflesireland based in Cork is apparently a scam and done people out of money

      The people who both run and take part in these raffles are exactly the kind of people who would not know the correct use of "seen and saw" or "did and done"

      Quality post! If a bit mean to mock them in this way :)


    13. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


      Are most of the cars Irish reg they sell on RKings and if they have any UK reg, they offer money with them for it


    14. Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭mickwat155


      Mc Love wrote: »
      Are most of the cars Irish reg they sell on RKings and if they have any UK reg, they offer money with them for it

      No they don't sell as much Irish reg stuff as they do uk but they don't have any problem taking Irish.. they don't offer money with every car only a select few towards insurance or vrt or whatever.. I remember a while back a fella in my area won two uk reg cars and was able to get them sold to a dealer for the cash so he would of made around €60/€70k on maybe £40


    15. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


      That is mental! Was the dealer in the republic?


    16. Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


      mickwat155 wrote: »
      I seen a comment yesterday where someone had spent over £2k on tickets and was still no better off

      I’ve spent that on my work lotto over the last 10 years. Still working away. No lotto win.

      Same principles apply.


    17. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      It seems they search both the UK and Ireland and if they see a car they know will be popular in a raffle they make an offer for it. They don't care which country the car is registered in. All they do is look for ones they think will sell tickets fast.
      Since most of their customers are in Ireland they often include £2k in with the prize if VRT needs to be paid. This makes little difference to their profits as cars tend to be cheaper in the UK.


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    19. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      Gumbo wrote: »
      I’ve spent that on my work lotto over the last 10 years. Still working away. No lotto win.

      Same principles apply.

      How many years have R Kings been holding raffless?


    20. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


      They’re going at least 12 months.

      There’s been a serious amount of Donegal winners recently. I now know 4 people who have won cars.


    21. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TigerTim


      Its bloody addictive. Only interested in older stuff. Entered draw for RS2000 recently. & missed another MK2 Escort.
      Find myself lookin a few times per day to see what they've up for raffle. VRT on some of the modern powerful stuff would be crippling & not worth the effort for me.

      T.


    22. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


      Unless you could sell them.

      Some of the stuff goes very quick. Missed the MSport X5 yesterday.


    23. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


      €5 an entry and 290 entries available for a jaysis 407 with no tax or test.

      Do you know if there was free entries for that raffle I wouldnt stick my name down.

      That'd be some yoke to be beached taking up space in your front yard.

      Screenshot-20200507-172826-Facebook.jpg


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    25. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      €5 an entry and 290 entries available for a jaysis 407 with no tax or test.

      Do you know if there was free entries for that raffle I wouldnt stick my name down.

      There is, they legally must provide a method of free entry.

      https://www.rkingscompetitions.com/terms-conditions


    26. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


      What's the story with the raffle end time? Say only 10 people enter at a fiver an entry, does the car get rafdled anyway (surely not?) or do you get your fiver back or what?

      Screenshot-20200507-173256-Facebook.jpg


    27. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,685 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


      I know a fella from Cork who has won 4 times off this crowd in past 12 months. Porsche and all.


    28. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      I know a fella from Cork who has won 4 times off this crowd in past 12 months. Porsche and all.

      It's Ireland, a tiny country. Everyone knows a fella.


    29. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,128 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


      I know a fella from Cork who has won 4 times off this crowd in past 12 months. Porsche and all.

      Sounds like the sales patter for those chain letter things that did the rounds when I was a student...'I know a fella made a 100,000 out of it'. :D


    30. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭PrettyBoy


      I know a fella from Cork who has won 4 times off this crowd in past 12 months. Porsche and all.

      What Porsche did R Kings raffle off?


    31. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      PrettyBoy wrote: »
      What Porsche did R Kings raffle off?

      997 carrera


    32. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


      I think people are scoping the website, there's been a few raffles where they've gone sold out without even been on Facebook


    33. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      Mc Love wrote: »
      I think people are scoping the website, there's been a few raffles where they've gone sold out without even been on Facebook

      But how will I get my free postal entry in?


    34. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


      Mc Love wrote: »
      I think people are scoping the website, there's been a few raffles where they've gone sold out without even been on Facebook


      Yeah, I did that before , sold out in 20 mins once.


      But how will I get my free postal entry in?
      That's the point, the tickets are all gone. No free entry.
      Why would you expect a free entry!


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    36. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      ELM327 wrote: »

      That's the point, the tickets are all gone. No free entry.
      Why would you expect a free entry!

      I'm entitled to free entry by law. You make it seem like they are trying to bypass the law.


    37. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


      I'm entitled to free entry by law. You make it seem like they are trying to bypass the law.

      They're abiding by the rules, not their fault you can't get a letter to them on time.


    38. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


      TigerTim wrote: »
      Its bloody addictive. Only interested in older stuff. Entered draw for RS2000 recently. & missed another MK2 Escort.
      Find myself lookin a few times per day to see what they've up for raffle. VRT on some of the modern powerful stuff would be crippling & not worth the effort for me.

      T.

      Another RS2000 up now, doesn't look as nice as the red one they had the other day though


    39. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


      They have a Lamborghini coming up. Possibly tomorrow.


    40. Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


      They have a Lamborghini coming up. Possibly tomorrow.

      I've always wanted a tractor.


    41. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TigerTim


      bennyx_o wrote: »
      Another RS2000 up now, doesn't look as nice as the red one they had the other day though


      Yep, saw that one. Wasn't tempted. Sold out in about an hour.

      T.


    42. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭TigerTim


      Mc Love wrote: »
      Unless you could sell them.

      Some of the stuff goes very quick. Missed the MSport X5 yesterday.

      Did a quick VRT check on that MSport X5. Serious money (for me anyway).

      Didn't bother.

      T.


    43. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


      I've always wanted a tractor.

      LP560-4 gallardo


    44. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


      I'm entitled to free entry by law. You make it seem like they are trying to bypass the law.
      Not if all the tickets are sold before your free attempt is received, you aren't


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    46. Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


      LP560-4 gallardo
      Wow.
      Shall keep an eye out for that!


      I also bought a ticket for the chaser that is up today


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