Cabin Fever Challenge - East Link Toll Bye-laws

Victor

So, people may be suffering from cabin fever and looking for something to do.

Dublin City Council are running a public consultation on revising these bye-laws. Deadline 4 p.m. on Wednesday 25th March 2020.

Challenge: find the most egregious legal errors and oversights. You have to spot the issue, not solve it. Whoever posts a particular issue first gets to claim that issue. For convenience, I've attached a Microsoft Word version of the bye-laws, suitable for marking-up. You can also find typos, but there are just too many for it to be sporting.


Link to public consultation https://consultation.dublincity.ie/traffic-and-transport/draft-east-link-toll-bye-laws/

Link to text: https://consultation.dublincity.ie/traffic-and-transport/draft-east-link-toll-bye-laws/supporting_documents/Final%20Draft%20bye%20lawsToll%20Road_East%20Link_16012020.pdf

ezra_

Victor wrote: »

So, people may be suffering from cabin fever and looking for something to do.

Dublin City Council are running a public consultation on revising these bye-laws. Deadline 4 p.m. on Wednesday 25th March 2020.

Challenge: find the most egregious legal errors and oversights. You have to spot the issue, not solve it. Whoever posts a particular issue first gets to claim that issue. For convenience, I've attached a Microsoft Word version of the bye-laws, suitable for marking-up. You can also find typos, but there are just too many for it to be sporting.


Link to public consultation https://consultation.dublincity.ie/traffic-and-transport/draft-east-link-toll-bye-laws/

Link to text: https://consultation.dublincity.ie/traffic-and-transport/draft-east-link-toll-bye-laws/supporting_documents/Final%20Draft%20bye%20lawsToll%20Road_East%20Link_16012020.pdf

2. The Council or the Bridge Company acting with its consent, may demand, take and recover tolls as set out herein.

I'm guessing that agents, servants and employees of the Council or Bridge Company should also be allowed to take and recover tolls.

Victor

ezra_ wrote: »

2. The Council or the Bridge Company acting with its consent, may demand, take and recover tolls as set out herein.

I'm guessing that agents, servants and employees of the Council or Bridge Company should also be allowed to take and recover tolls.

I think the draft bye-laws have over-thought this. The actions of the agents, servants and employees are not personal, they are acting on behalf of the Council or Bridge Company. The only reasons I see that the distinction was made was so that receipts only have to be given when you use a toll collector (a human) and so receipts don't have to be given when using a machine or tag.

Also, I don't like "take" the toll - it sounds like physically putting their hand in the driver's pocket. "Receive" would be a much nicer word.

Anyway, I have 199 issues (with a small bit of repetition) they have to address.

GM228

And here's one you could also throw at them Victor:-

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057772190

Victor

GM228 wrote: »

And here's one you could also throw at them Victor:-

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057772190

Too late.

I'm actually a bit shocked that something that bad went to public consultation. Maybe I should write to the Director of Services and include that bit.

It's like they got a low-level admin person to scan and OCR the previous version and make some rudimentary changes. Like, it doesn't even revoke the previous bye-laws - it purports to revoke the previous bye-laws before that, which were already revoked.

First attachment seems to be a bad OCR scan of the document, that purports to be the previous version attached. Words are missing and capitalisation & punctuation are off.

Second attachment is a more authentic scan of a published version of the bye-laws.

Victor

By contrast, compare the Health (Preservation and Protection and other Emergency Measures in the Public Interest) Bill 2020 versions between Tuesday and Thursday last week, done in an emergency.