Withdrawal symptoms

alanmc

So now that all the ranges are closed, and I have nowhere to shoot, I'm beginning to get the shakes. My poor rifles have been cleaned and polished to within an inch of their lives. I miss shooting.

How are you all coping?

Cass

Was just saying on another thread, my guns haven't gotten this much cleaning in a while. Even took off some scopes, stripped rifles to clean places i didn't know existed.

Worse part is the range shut before i got a chance to go back over and zero two firearms so i'm sitting here wondering how to zero one of them without access to the range.

Only good point is i stripped out the gun room and reorganised things. Found loads of bits and pieces i forgot i had. Also done a stock take on ammo. Nice. :cool:

alanmc

There's nothing worse than a rifle sitting in the safe that I know isn't zeroed. It's in there ... mocking me.

Cass

Yup.

I have a 25 yard zero chart done for all my firearms so if it came to it (for safety reasons) i'll hit the bog (the turf kind, not the sh***er) and zero it there, but the other one is my pistol. So no option but to use the range.

con747

alanmc wrote: »

So now that all the ranges are closed, and I have nowhere to shoot, I'm beginning to get the shakes. My poor rifles have been cleaned and polished to within an inch of their lives. I miss shooting.

How are you all coping?

Don't own a gun, but maybe you lads could do your country a favour by doing some target practice on the morons not listening to the social distancing advice.:)

Max H

yes, frustrating. Collected new gun and no clays to pop.

The pigeon man

It's been a tough time without the range. I miss clays the most.

As for the rifles I've been leaving them alone apart from a quick bore snake and oily rag on the barrels. Last thing I want to do is lose zero when there's no range open.

Going forward we could probably do the farmers a favour by hitting the foxes hard as the lambs are born.

In ways I am looking forward to a bit of solo lamping and a few days in the hide after rooks and magpies.

Max H

daft question possibly, can we shoot rooks and magpies ATM

The pigeon man

Max H wrote: »

daft question possibly, can we shoot rooks and magpies ATM

They can currently be shot under the birds derogation, during the times and for the reasons specified within.

If you need to shoot them outside these constraints you have to apply for a section 42 license.

https://www.npws.ie/legislation/irish-law/eu-birds-directive-derogations

Wadi14

Look on the bright side guys you will all be better shots by the time it's all over , with all the dry fire practice your doing at home, or is that SHOULD be doing at home :rolleyes:

tudderone

Or you can build your shtf bunkers, we have had Swine flu, SAR's, now coronavirus, be ready for the next time !

Grizzly 45

Fuk it...Go hunting anyway.Its about as soilitary as you can get in sport,so zero chance of infecting anyone,and as you have lets or deals with farmers to shoot over their lands.
Farming is an essential industry,you are playing an important role in keeping a essential industry functioning by pest control.
It's why in wartime Britan ICI kept making game load shotgun shells for farmers and those off duty who fancied abit of a shoot.
Going to see if I can rig my clay trap to foot release and bust few clays,if I can still get them.

Gorgeousgeorge

Actually happy to get a break from the Clay's have been going most weekends since Last years leinster league. Wallet is noticeably heavier

tudderone

Gorgeousgeorge wrote: »

Actually happy to get a break from the Clay's have been going most weekends since Last years leinster league. Wallet is noticeably heavier

Serious clay bashing is not a cheap sport, as i found out years ago. Mind you, neither is centrefire rifle shooting.

Gorgeousgeorge

tudderone wrote: »

Serious clay bashing is not a cheap sport, as i found out years ago. Mind you, neither is centrefire rifle shooting.

Yeah exactly even using the 50 a slab cartridges then entry fee and fodder and go go juice it adds up quick. Think il be staying home for a good while longer

cookimonster

Even with this derogation, so to speak, I don't think I'll venture out for a shot. Might give it another 5 days or more and rethink the situation.
I contact the farmers and see whats what?......

Grizzly 45

Best advice I can get on this is...Stay the fuk at home!!!

But if you must sally forth,because of vermin control,which is a ligit part of agriculture.Get a written consent from the farmer concerned. Evena text will do confirming that they want you on their lands to control foxes,or whatever needs controlling,and are aware of the risks entailed.At least you have something to back up your claims if you run into the AGS when being out and about. Maybe also in these exceptional times,give the local Div HQ a call and tell them you are going to be out on X farm doing vermin control in wherever addresss ,so in case nerveous ninnies or curtain twitchers are in contact about "terrorists practising shooting" there is no need to send the ERU and ASU units out.

Also this virus can survive apprently over 72 hours on smooth surfaces,and longer on wooden surfaces.So if opening often used farm gates,wear gloves. And pick up,every,last,bit of stuff you might have brought into the farm,like spent shells etc.

We are in strange times and uncharted waters on this folks so err very much on the side of caution if you are going on someone elses property and land. Last thing we neeed now is some farmer going down with this and it is traced back to one of us shooters. That would play havoc with our public image and give the antis a truckload of ammo to fire at us for months after.

cookimonster

Absolutely agree with you Grizz there are far too many uncertainties to the whole lot, regarding the confinement etc etc. My thoughts are that you ( or the likes of me, coming from the towns and cities) may not be all too welcome. Is it worth the hassle or potential hassle if your stopped regardless of justification. As it is I have a two hour round journey to check on my 80+ year old widowed mother and will not be surprised if I have to explian myself in great detail if I'm stopped.
I have been in contact with the farmers at the start of all this (before actual lock down) and they, understandably were happy to keep themselves to themselves.
I certainly didn't rush to contact them as to the change in conditions and as I said this one will have to be played by ear and a good dose of common sense.

Hunter456

lads if you do venture out wear rubber gloves this virus can last on surfaces, my wife works in health care and they had a briefing yesterday it can be brought home threw the sole of your boots or shoes so be careful in this sense take your boots off out side and leave them out side or have a bucket of disinfectant to dip your boots into. i sit out on a sheep farm for 2-3 hours of an evening.

Grizzly 45

cookimonster wrote: »

Absolutely agree with you Grizz there are far too many uncertainties to the whole lot, regarding the confinement etc etc. My thoughts are that you ( or the likes of me, coming from the towns and cities) may not be all too welcome. Is it worth the hassle or potential hassle if your stopped regardless of justification. As it is I have a two hour round journey to check on my 80+ year old widowed mother and will not be surprised if I have to explian myself in great detail if I'm stopped.
I have been in contact with the farmers at the start of all this (before actual lock down) and they, understandably were happy to keep themselves to themselves.
I certainly didn't rush to contact them as to the change in conditions and as I said this one will have to be played by ear and a good dose of common sense.

Leave it for another 12 days at least ,and lets see what is on the 14th,whether this lifts or not.[I doubt it myself] IF one of your farmers contacts you himself in dire straits,and is willing to sign off and send you a text,or email stating such and you are needed badly,I'd STFAH.

Grizzly 45

Hunter456 wrote: »

lads if you do venture out wear rubber gloves this virus can last on surfaces, my wife works in health care and they had a briefing yesterday it can be brought home threw the sole of your boots or shoes so be careful in this sense take your boots off out side and leave them out side or have a bucket of disinfectant to dip your boots into. i sit out on a sheep farm for 2-3 hours of an evening.

So that means this stuff can also survive on tyres too,if it can survive on footwear.No wonder the Chinese and Koreans were spraying their streets and buildings.:eek: Lovely another job for someone.

tudderone

Is this rotten disease a fact of life from now on ? Sporadic outbreaks of this virus like flu every winter along with the usual agues and poxes ?

Hunter456

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

So that means this stuff can also survive on tyres too,if it can survive on footwear.No wonder the Chinese and Koreans were spraying their streets and buildings.:eek: Lovely another job for someone.

Thats exactly y their were spraying It can last on flat surfaces for a time, I go out behind the house for a walk and maybe ambush a fox but that's as fare as I go it's not worth it,

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

Is this rotten disease a fact of life from now on ? Sporadic outbreaks of this virus like flu every winter along with the usual agues and poxes ?

Quite possibly,until either humanity develops a herd immunity ,or locks down countries or areas where there is an outbreak,or we develop a vaccine against it.Which might be about Sept by current thinking.So get ready for a long summer and ,infact just write off any sort of plans for 2020.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Quite possibly,until either humanity develops a herd immunity ,or locks down countries or areas where there is an outbreak,or we develop a vaccine against it.Which might be about Sept by current thinking.So get ready for a long summer and ,infact just write off any sort of plans for 2020.

Oh goodie, a summer locked in the house when i have been looking forwards to getting 101 little jobs outside and around the house. All down to the chinese and their scruffy food practices.

Birdnuts

tudderone wrote: »

Is this rotten disease a fact of life from now on ? Sporadic outbreaks of this virus like flu every winter along with the usual agues and poxes ?

The worrying thing is that it appears to be mutating, spreading etc. at a frightening speed:(

dodderangler

Would like to think hunting would be deemed essential seen as its meat for the family in these times and its keeping us away from contact with other people but every idiot is now out walking together with their mates or couples and it's just too dangerous to shoot now

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

Oh goodie, a summer locked in the house when i have been looking forwards to getting 101 little jobs outside and around the house. All down to the chinese and their scruffy food practices.

Hard to belive that 16 weeks ago a in a part of China not many had heard of,a China man decided "Ah good,Bat soup for dinner tonite"and changed the world to the point we could film the opening credits for "I am legend" or" The Omega man" in O Connell St or Times square,not as a post apocalyptic movie,but for a real documentary.:eek::pac:

Grizzly 45

dodderangler wrote: »

Would like to think hunting would be deemed essential seen as its meat for the family in these times and its keeping us away from contact with other people but every idiot is now out walking together with their mates or couples and it's just too dangerous to shoot now

Not so long as the butchers and supermarkets can stay supplied,and we dont drop back to ration cards for meat it won't.If the supply chain breaks then deffo. Thing is if that happens,you'd better be wearing kevlar,as I reckon every fool with any sort of a gun will be out shooting at anything that moves with bad cases of "buck fever".At very worst,expect the illegal deer harvesters to start the season around July this year,if this happens and they will be alot more aggressive and blatant about it,as the pittances the game dealers are paying will be laughed at,when you can sell ANY sort of a carcass out your back door for 200 plus euros???
Dont laugh this off!!! When people are hungry and in food shortages,fresh meat of any kind becomes an ultra premium item on the black market.

Peppa Cig

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Not so long as the butchers and supermarkets can stay supplied,and we dont drop back to ration cards for meat it won't.If the supply chain breaks then deffo. Thing is if that happens,you'd better be wearing kevlar,as I reckon every fool with any sort of a gun will be out shooting at anything that moves with bad cases of "buck fever".At very worst,expect the illegal deer harvesters to start the season around July this year,if this happens and they will be alot more aggressive and blatant about it,as the pittances the game dealers are paying will be laughed at,when you can sell ANY sort of a carcass out your back door for 200 plus euros???
Dont laugh this off!!! When people are hungry and in food shortages,fresh meat of any kind becomes an ultra premium item on the black market.

The world is only two meals away from barbarism.

Grizzly 45

Wasnt't it 9meals from anarchy?

tudderone

dodderangler wrote: »

Would like to think hunting would be deemed essential seen as its meat for the family in these times and its keeping us away from contact with other people but every idiot is now out walking together with their mates or couples and it's just too dangerous to shoot now

There were so many walking up and down my road i thought it was paddys day. Wouldn't be so busy on a working day. People really do have the attitude, that the rules are for other people, not for me.

Feisar

tudderone wrote: »

There were so many walking up and down my road i thought it was paddys day. Wouldn't be so busy on a working day. People really do have the attitude, that the rules are for other people, not for me.

I'm not sure it's as simple as that. People seem to think of themselves as outside of the system. "I went to Tesco and there were ques! Can you believe it?" That example is not sitting outside of the problem, they are part of it. I have yet you meet a person who wasn't, only "going out for a few bits".

Grizzly 45

But standing in ques should be a great learning experiance for those who espouse Socialism!:D:D:D Thats just part and parcel of living in countries like Soviet Russia Cuba,Venezula,N Korea, E Germany and the like.Stand in a que for four hours for a loaf of BREAD! Not to mind anything else that our somewhat depleted supermarkets might not have,but will have within 72 hours more than likely. Imagine not being able to get toothpaste,or even SOAP for four weeks???And queing up for it for a couple of hours??That was normal life in East Germany,when I went over once as an exchange student in the 1970s fro W Germany.
So get back in the que Comrade,and sTFU about not getting your garlic flavourd buffalo morezzla cheese hand rolled in Ulan Batarr or wherever.:rolleyes::pac:

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

But standing in ques should be a great learning experiance for those who espouse Socialism!:D:D:D Thats just part and parcel of living in countries like Soviet Russia Cuba,Venezula,N Korea, E Germany and the like.Stand in a que for four hours for a loaf of BREAD! Not to mind anything else that our somewhat depleted supermarkets might not have,but will have within 72 hours more than likely. Imagine not being able to get toothpaste,or even SOAP for four weeks???And queing up for it for a couple of hours??That was normal life in East Germany,when I went over once as an exchange student in the 1970s fro W Germany.
So get back in the que Comrade,and sTFU about not getting your garlic flavourd buffalo morezzla cheese hand rolled in Ulan Batarr or wherever.:rolleyes::pac:

Started reading Gulag Archipelago the other night. Its compulsory reading now in schools in Russia. But it really gives a first hand account of the delights of living in Stalins USSR. One comment out of place about the regime, and its many years of hard slave labour in conditions we could scarcely believe of now. Its also odd, that once a country leaves communism, they seem strangely resistant to undertake it again.

Grizzly 45

And then for some light reading have a read of "One day in the life of prisioner Ivan Denisovitch",and then "Russias political hospitals" by the same author.

Great concept in Soviet times,anyone who critiqued the Soviet regime was obviously mentally unwell for habouring such thoughts.So off to the Soviet version of the home for the bewilderd you went,to be" cured" by the wonders of Soviet medicine.

Dont think for one moment that under Putins Russia those camps have disappered or the ideas of curing "unwell citizens" has gone either.Ask the former owner of "Gazprom" and some of his directors.Who are enjoying a Russian Govt sponsored vacation of indefinate time,someplace out on the Chinese border with Russia.

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

Its also odd, that once a country leaves communism, they seem strangely resistant to undertake it again.

Yip, and we wonder WHY our East bloc friends are so pro gun,and groups like FUN was founded by Polish lads?They were born,grew up ,lived under,and had relatives, friends and neighbours "diaspper" at 4AM into the back of police vans and lorries .And we wonder why they are getting rather bolshie with the EU too,and are starting to give it the finger now at every opportunity?They can't understand us in the Western EU ,how we can be so blase ,in handing over our freedoms to Govt at any given opportunity.Even Mikahl Gorbachev himself was puzzled as to why the West want to emulate Socialism at every opportunity.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Yip, and we wonder WHY our East bloc friends are so pro gun,and groups like FUN was founded by Polish lads?They were born,grew up ,lived under,and had relatives, friends and neighbours "diaspper" at 4AM into the back of police vans and lorries .And we wonder why they are getting rather bolshie with the EU too,and are starting to give it the finger now at every opportunity?They can't understand us in the Western EU ,how we can be so blase ,in handing over our freedoms to Govt at any given opportunity.Even Mikahl Gorbachev himself was puzzled as to why the West want to emulate Socialism at every opportunity.

From what i have seen, the EU is like a drowning man who has just been thrown a concrete block, with this pandemic. Far from uniting the continental european countries, it has them at each others throats.

The Italians are publically burning the eu flag, and i hear that 70% of Italians have a very poor opinion of the bloc now.

Grizzly 45

As well as their Leftist Govt,and those clamouring for open borders.

BattleCorp

tudderone wrote: »

The Italians are publically burning the eu flag, and i hear that 70% of Italians have a very poor opinion of the bloc now.

I think most of the Anti-EU sentiment was there long before the virus. They were struggling with debt etc. and this virus will only have made things much much worse.

It has to be said though that the Italians did act the boll1x during the early days of the lockdown so they brought a lot of their problems on themselves.

Once a lockdown was mentioned in one area, there was a big scatter to other places which did nothing only spread the virus far and wide.

Grizzly 45

BattleCorp wrote: »

It has to be said though that the Italians did act the boll1x during the early days of the lockdown so they brought a lot of their problems on themselves.

Because they didnt want to be accused of being "WASCIST!" up in thos progressive areas.Having demos like "hug a Chinaman" and stupid sht like that,or like Peloisi walking around San Fransisco's Chinatown telling people there is no danger and not to be rascist as there is no problem with the Corona virus.

TombstoneT

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Best advice I can get on this is...Stay the fuk at home!!!

But if you must sally forth,because of vermin control,which is a ligit part of agriculture.Get a written consent from the farmer concerned. Evena text will do confirming that they want you on their lands to control foxes,or whatever needs controlling,and are aware of the risks entailed.At least you have something to back up your claims if you run into the AGS when being out and about. Maybe also in these exceptional times,give the local Div HQ a call and tell them you are going to be out on X farm doing vermin control in wherever addresss ,so in case nerveous ninnies or curtain twitchers are in contact about "terrorists practising shooting" there is no need to send the ERU and ASU units out.

Also this virus can survive apprently over 72 hours on smooth surfaces,and longer on wooden surfaces.So if opening often used farm gates,wear gloves. And pick up,every,last,bit of stuff you might have brought into the farm,like spent shells etc.

We are in strange times and uncharted waters on this folks so err very much on the side of caution if you are going on someone elses property and land. Last thing we neeed now is some farmer going down with this and it is traced back to one of us shooters. That would play havoc with our public image and give the antis a truckload of ammo to fire at us for months after.

Well said Grizzly 45