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Anyone notice that screw heads disintegrate with slight pressure

  • 21-03-2020 4:59pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭


    Just seems that the quality of screw is that any standard Philips head screw seems to tear up with moderate to strong force. I was mounting some brackets to the walls today for different things and the screw heads started to tear up.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Torque setting too high?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Rule of thumb for most tradesmen is to bin the screws that come with the item you are fitting. They are usually made cheaply, are soft and designed for a screwdriver & not a screw gun. Tradesmen buy boxes of 100 or more screws at the trade counter builders provider's. These will be a good quality screw. I hate to say it because they are an Irish business but screws from Woodies I'd never use. I assume B&q is the same but I haven't tried them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Rule of thumb for most tradesmen is to bin the screws that come with the item you are fitting. They are usually made cheaply, are soft and designed for a screwdriver & not a screw gun. Tradesmen buy boxes of 100 or more screws at the trade counter builders provider's. These will be a good quality screw. I hate to say it because they are an Irish business but screws from Woodies I'd never use. I assume B&q is the same but I haven't tried them.

    I use boxes of screws of different sizes from B&Q for diy jobs around the house and garden and they do the job. It is certainly better if the right screwdriver bit is used though. I tend to use posidrive screws and bits and rarely have an issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Just seems that the quality of screw is that any standard Philips head screw seems to tear up with moderate to strong force. I was mounting some brackets to the walls today for different things and the screw heads started to tear up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    The screws normally provided with shelves and brackets are cheap and nasty, invest in a selection of screws from your local hardware shop, also people use cheap inferior screwdrivers, buy a few good quality Stanley screwdrivers in different head sizes if you do a lot of DIY


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Buy wood screws or similar....

    Ones provided are rubbish as mentioned above...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,041 ✭✭✭con747


    Make sure you use the right sized Phillips head bit. A lot "fit" but are the wrong size for the screw.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Philips or Pozi drive?
    I don’t see many poor pozi drive screws but a lot of philips are cheap crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    Woodies do sell Spax now when I don't think they did before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Woodies do sell Spax now when I don't think they did before.


    In fairness I gave up buying screws in Woodies years ago. Once bitten twice shy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Phillips? Are you sure they aren't posi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭physioman


    I use to have the same issue. Started using Robertson square screw heads. Excellent screws and screw bit never slips when tightening the head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭chillyspoon


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Rule of thumb for most tradesmen is to bin the screws that come with the item you are fitting. They are usually made cheaply, are soft and designed for a screwdriver & not a screw gun. Tradesmen buy boxes of 100 or more screws at the trade counter builders provider's. These will be a good quality screw. I hate to say it because they are an Irish business but screws from Woodies I'd never use. I assume B&q is the same but I haven't tried them.

    Amen to that, junk screws made from a mixture of resin and metal powders - Spax, GoldScrew, TurboGold, TIMCo = happy days.
    Phillips? Are you sure they aren't posi?

    Or vice versa - so often the junk screws that come with a fixture are Phillips so a Posidrive will just cam out of that out of date nightmare of a standard! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    Wow, was fitting some hardware today that came with it's own screw fixings- after shearing off the second screw head I asked myself "why do they always include crap quality screws with these things?". What do manufacturers save, must be pretty miniscule,regardless of scale- talk about contempt for the customer/ end user!


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