well the army be rolled out soon

cena

If the country goes in full lockdown, do you think the army out

kenmm

So the rumours are saying..

Think they would be needed to support - control access to hospitals, extra check points, ticketing systems into supermarkets etc. When, who knows.. hopefully this week.

I hope they seal off the bridge in waterford to keep the south kk immigrants out


Coming into tewn,taking our jobs and wimmin,amd spreading disease

Reggie.

kenmm wrote: »

So the rumours are saying..

Think they would be needed to support - control access to hospitals, extra check points, ticketing systems into supermarkets etc. When, who knows.. hopefully this week.

Not a hope. Not enough troops in the country. Loads of vital installations need protecting first. Army stretched very thin as it is

corner of hells

kenmm wrote: »

So the rumours are saying..

Think they would be needed to support - control access to hospitals, extra check points, ticketing systems into supermarkets etc. When, who knows.. hopefully this week.

Check points for what ?

corner of hells

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I hope they seal off the bridge in waterford to keep the south kk immigrants out


Coming into tewn,taking our jobs and wimmin,amd spreading disease

Its always south something that causes the problem isn't it ? , South Carolina, South Sudan .

kenmm

corner of hells wrote: »

Check points for what ?

Oh I dunno - making sure randomers arent trying to use JCBs to extract ATMs for example or chancers aren't doing the typical Irish F-U to any authority to hold a curfew?

You know - the usual sh!t selfish pricks do when there is an emergency in Ireland.

kenmm

Reggie. wrote: »

Not a hope. Not enough troops in the country. Loads of vital installations need protecting first. Army stretched very thin as it is

Ye - I dunno exactly WHAT for, I am neither part of the army or ever had to do any national or international disaster planning. But "protecting institutions" would be another thing I would say they are used for, yes.

Rows Grower

cena wrote: »

If the country goes in full lockdown, do you think the army out

I got a message earlier to say there will be an announcement at 11am tomorrow to say a full lockdown will start on Tuesday.

It also said the army will be used to make sure there are no gatherings in public of more than 100 people. It specifically mentioned that the army will be supervising supermarkets to control numbers inside and outside.

It's hard to know what's ahead of us really between scaremongering and not knowing what the government know but are not telling us.

Jet Black

don't know, well it?

cajonlardo

https://m.facebook.com/DefenceForces/

Scroll down.

You'll see the latest statement and also info on the cadets tracing contacts etc

punisher5112

The army is out, you just tend not to see them too much....

They mind the mint, some at dail, rte and some other major spots....

Portloaise prison also of course.

Raconteuse

Avoid rumours, "I heard", "pretty certain that" and all badly written social media posts and texts (I fell for the ibuprofen text today and I can't take paracetamol - the bullsh1t is potentially dangerous).

We don't know until it's officially announced.

Exclamation Marc

Rows Grower wrote: »

I got a message earlier to say there will be an announcement at 11am tomorrow to say a full lockdown will start on Tuesday.

It also said the army will be used to make sure there are no gatherings in public of more than 100 people. It specifically mentioned that the army will be supervising supermarkets to control numbers inside and outside.

It's hard to know what's ahead of us really between scaremongering and not knowing what the government know but are not telling us.

Utter nonsense. Typical WhatsApp "i heard from someone else" waffle. Do you think there are enough of the army for every supermarket in the country?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1239262361816649734?s=19

Class MayDresser

corner of hells wrote: »

Its always south something that causes the problem isn't it ? , South Carolina, South Sudan .

Southfork.

gmisk

cena wrote: »

If the country goes in full lockdown, do you think the army out

Nope.
We have a very small army for a start.

There might be further shut downs...restaurants, shops (bar supermarkets and chemists) that's about all I can see happening this week tbh

The message going around looks like utter rubbish like the vast majority of the rest of them.

Raconteuse

Rows Grower wrote: »

I got a message earlier to say there will be an announcement at 11am tomorrow to say a full lockdown will start on Tuesday.

It also said the army will be used to make sure there are no gatherings in public of more than 100 people. It specifically mentioned that the army will be supervising supermarkets to control numbers inside and outside.

It's hard to know what's ahead of us really between scaremongering and not knowing what the government know but are not telling us.

Yeah that ones doing the rounds. Now if the government is not telling us things, how do the starters of those chains know? It's irresponsible of them. Last week there was also talk of army deployment, which was false.

thomil

There's actually a pretty good article describing the potential deployment of the Defence Forces:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/defence-forces-to-shift-to-status-yellow-with-330-troops-aiding-hse-1.4202609

Given that the source of the information is Vice Admiral Mellett, the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces, I'd say that's a pretty reliable bit of information.

Bringing the entire army onto a full "war" footing according to some of the rumours would in all likelihood take quite some time. I doubt we'll see soldiers on the streets in any large numbers. That's not to say I wouldn't approve of it, some of the blokes in Temple Bar could have well used looking down the Barrel of a Steyr AUG to bring them to their senses, but there's a whole lot of logistics involved.

Mav11

Raconteuse wrote: »

Avoid rumours, "I heard", "pretty certain that" and all badly written social media posts and texts (I fell for the ibuprofen text today and I can't take paracetamol - the bullsh1t is potentially dangerous).

We don't know until it's officially announced.

Is the ibuprofen advice from France not true???

kenmm

They will probably be used to do what they are doing in UK right now - getting community centres and the like ready, extra beds, some infrastructure stuff. Its all a guess. The best thing to do right now - everyone minimise travel and contact, and keep clean. Yes its a pain, but every visit you don't take to the local cafe (if open) or pub is contributing directly to saving lives in the future by slowing down the spread.


It's that simple.

Rows Grower

punisher5112 wrote: »

The army is out, you just tend not to see them too much....

They mind the mint, some at dail, rte and some other major spots....

Portloaise prison also of course.

I was up in Dublin Castle recently to visit the Cheaster Beatty museum and there was preparations going on for 90 odd soldiers to be promoted to officers the following day.

I was very pleasantly surprised to see the brand new fleet of buses the army has, there was well over a couple of million quids worth of new buses there. The lads themselves were milling around the place as we were walking through and they are a very impressive looking bunch of professionals.

Raconteuse

Mav11 wrote: »

Is the ibuprofen advice from France not true???

The text going around today was that it'll cause you to become one of the critical patients. The advice from France is that it has the potential to aggravate the virus.

Rows Grower

Raconteuse wrote: »

Yeah that ones doing the rounds. Now if the government is not telling us things, how do the starters of those chains know? It's irresponsible of them. Last week there was also talk of army deployment, which was false.

Last week I was told schools would be closing on the Friday and the government and all other sources were in complete denial.

yesto24

thomil wrote: »

There's actually a pretty good article describing the potential deployment of the Defence Forces:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/defence-forces-to-shift-to-status-yellow-with-330-troops-aiding-hse-1.4202609

Given that the source of the information is Vice Admiral Mellett, the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces, I'd say that's a pretty reliable bit of information.

Bringing the entire army onto a full "war" footing according to some of the rumours would in all likelihood take quite some time. I doubt we'll see soldiers on the streets in any large numbers. That's not to say I wouldn't approve of it, some of the blokes in Temple Bar could have well used looking down the Barrel of a Steyr AUG to bring them to their senses, but there's a whole lot of logistics involved.

Are you serious. You are happy to have citizens of a country threatened by the army of the state.
Whatever about people hoarding toilet roll but you have lost your mind.

kenmm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Last week I was told schools would be closing on the Friday and the government and all other sources were in complete denial.

But you were probably also told that they would close on Thursday, closed next week and not closed at all right?

Rows Grower

Rows Grower wrote: »

Last week I was told schools would be closing on the Friday and the government and all other sources were in complete denial.

Its fairly obvious that there is something going to happen tomorrow

Look about every country in europe is announcing all sorts of things....people demanding evidence of it,or dismissing it outright are argeuing,just for sake of it

Whats happening/being announced tomorrow,fcuk knows though

kenmm

yesto24 wrote: »

Are you serious. You are happy to have citizens of a country threatened by the army of the state.
Whatever about people hoarding toilet roll but you have lost your mind.

I'm happy to have the Army on patrol in an emergency situation, yes. Happier than mass celebrations in pubs, everyone drinking themselves sick, greedy cafe owners adding tables at a time when isolation is needed, people spreading misinformation and lies (for example).

Rows Grower

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Utter nonsense. Typical WhatsApp "i heard from someone else" waffle. Do you think there are enough of the army for every supermarket in the country?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1239262361816649734?s=19

I honestly have no idea how many soldiers or supermarkets we have.

Do you?

Rows Grower

kenmm wrote: »

But you were probably also told that they would close on Thursday, closed next week and not closed at all right?

Nope, check my post history here.

The One Doctor

cena wrote: »

If the country goes in full lockdown, do you think the army out

Not a hope in hell, our army is far too small and underequipped to have any influence.

Talk sense and stop believing WhatsApp/Indo bull.

kenmm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Nope, check my post history here.

Not sure who you are or what you have been told or who by tbh - and I dont really want to go searching through posts. But fair enough if you know.

thomil

yesto24 wrote: »

Are you serious. You are happy to have citizens of a country threatened by the army of the state.
Whatever about people hoarding toilet roll but you have lost your mind.

Nope, I'm quite sober, and I'm in full possession of my mental faculties, thank you very much for asking.

These people in Temple Bar or other pubs last night deliberately flaunted the measures put in place to curb, or at least reduce the spread of COVID-19. They have proven to be immature, childish and reckless, and are a threat to the many vulnerable people in this country to whom the virus is a real danger. They've proven that they don't listen to reason, and don't care about others, so any repeat should be broken up in the sternest possible manner.

Signore Fancy Pants

The Defence Forces will be assisting the HSE/AGS in order to help the citizens of Ireland in whatever way decided by the civil authorities.

We will not be pointing weapons at you.

punisher5112

I'd say the extra cars will be used for this purpose there will most likely be Garda and army together as to not cause panic as such and have people spreading rubbish of marshal law etc...

Rows Grower

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

The Defence Forces will be assisting the HSE/AGS in order to help the citizens of Ireland in whatever way decided by the civil authorities.

We will not be pointing weapons at you.

Pretty much what I was told, also it was mentioned the fire service will possibly be used as extra ambulance service if needed.

The Tetrarch

I was in a dusk to dawn curfew abroad years ago. No lights allowed. The army patrolled in the dark. They called to my house as there was a tiny amount of light showing.
CCTV here would show if anyone is out and about. Traffic management can view all the junctions. A few roadblocks would slow movement.

Plumbthedepths

Rows Grower wrote: »

I honestly have no idea how many soldiers or supermarkets we have.

Do you?

There is circa 8750 in the defence forces with nearly 600 of that figure on overseas missions leaving just over 8k in Ireland. SuperValu alone has circa 230 stores in the country. Despite the assholes and bull**** merchants on FB and other social media platforms the army will not be patrolling your local supermarket or even your local streets.
The army's function in the time of emergency is aid to the civil power not to be pointing weapons in the face of someone trying to buy a can of beans.

Raconteuse

Rows Grower wrote: »

Last week I was told schools would be closing on the Friday and the government and all other sources were in complete denial.

I'm not having a go at you btw - just people spreading misinformation.

There is nothing amiss with the schools announcement though. Schools closure is a drastic measure that is preferably avoided.

There would have been long deliberations and uncertainty. Risk analysis etc. Until it was actually decided for certain and officially signed off that the schools were closing, the schools weren't closing.

That's the standard with well operated mass communications. Nothing's happening until it's official.

Rows Grower

kenmm wrote: »

Not sure who you are or what you have been told or who by tbh - and I dont really want to go searching through posts. But fair enough if you know.

I don't know, I'm just telling you what I was told.

It's a unique situation we are in and its changing at a rapid pace so nothing would surprise me.

CoBo55

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I hope they seal off the bridge in waterford to keep the south kk immigrants out


Coming into tewn,taking our jobs and wimmin,amd spreading disease

Showing off their medals... Make u feckin sick dey wud .

Rows Grower

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

There is circa 8750 in the defence forces with nearly 600 of that figure on overseas missions leaving just over 8k in Ireland. SuperValu alone has circa 230 stores in the country. Despite the assholes and bull**** merchants on FB and other social media platforms the army will not be patrolling your local supermarket or even your local streets.
The army's function in the time of emergency is aid to the civil power not to be pointing weapons in the face of someone trying to buy a can of beans.

Yeah, thanks for clearing that up there because that was a major worry.

Exclamation Marc

Rows Grower wrote: »

I honestly have no idea how many soldiers or supermarkets we have.

Do you?

Approx 7500-8000 in the army, that includes all types of personnel not just 'front line,.

There are approx 1000 large supermarkets in Ireland and an inordinate amount of smaller food shops or stores.

mfceiling

The Tetrarch wrote: »

I was in a dusk to dawn curfew abroad years ago. No lights allowed. The army patrolled in the dark. They called to my house as there was a tiny amount of light showing.
CCTV here would show if anyone is out and about. Traffic management can view all the junctions. A few roadblocks would slow movement.

Where was this if you don't mind me asking?

yesto24

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

The Defence Forces will be assisting the HSE/AGS in order to help the citizens of Ireland in whatever way decided by the civil authorities.

We will not be pointing weapons at you.

Oh I know what authority the army have when operating in Ireland.
That's why the ridiculous suggestion from the internet hardman that someone should be facing down the barrel of a styer annoyed me so much.
Do people learn nothing from history?

Purple Mountain

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I hope they seal off the bridge in waterford to keep the south kk immigrants out


Coming into tewn,taking our jobs and wimmin,amd spreading disease

Eating your blaas bhoy.

Signore Fancy Pants

yesto24 wrote: »

Oh I know what authority the army have when operating in Ireland.
That's why the ridiculous suggestion from the internet hardman that someone should be facing down the barrel of a styer annoyed me so much.
Do people learn nothing from history?

What authority have they got when operating in Ireland?

Harry Palmr

I'm giggling at the idea they could hardly control Dublin never mind the country, that said they could come after those who misspell thread titles.

punisher5112

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

What authority have they got when operating in Ireland?

They can be used to protect the state.

They are in the dail and other places.
Look how they protect money shipments, only very large scale now of course.

The Tetrarch

mfceiling wrote: »

Where was this if you don't mind me asking?

Zambia, May 1979.
They were "at war" with Ian Smith's Rhodesia. But it was a war without fighting.
I think the Zambians were expecting a visit. We heard trucks movements all night for nights on end, possibly getting troops and equipment out of the way. They certainly would never have approached Rhodesia.
Rhodesia jets bombed Lusaka northern suburbs one morning to discourage freedom fighters based there.

Signore Fancy Pants

punisher5112 wrote: »

They can be used to protect the state.

They are in the dail and other places.
Look how they protect money shipments, only very large scale now of course.

Yeah I know, Im one of them. Just curious as to what the other guy knows.

punisher5112

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Yeah I know, Im one of them. Just curious as to what the other guy knows.

Ok got ya...