Schools set to close [No]

Stevieluvsye

I'll create a seperate thread as the other thread is moving so quickly and people will have interest in this but i am lead to believe all schools will shut for 4 weeks (Or thereabouts) next Wednesday 18th of March. Another poster on the thread shared the below pic



https://ibb.co/Kr9Jfkm

daheff

already posts about this in the teaching thread.



Same post as i made there. no point in closing schools right now as 99.9999% of people aren't infected, so there is nobody to spread the infection right now.


Closing schools at this point won't help. All it will do is force more parents to stay at home out of work or the kids will be sent to afterschool camps.

Or parents will take them off on holidays like they did in Italy.


Now if there is a wider outbreak, then yes close the schools. Now isn't that time.

daheff wrote: »

The issue of schools closing in the UK was brought up yesterday on Newsnight. The official they were talking with said that its too soon there to do this. Their annual FLU contingency plan allows for schools to be closed, but only if there was a massive outbreak.

Their reasoning is that if you close schools when people are generally well, a lot of parents will need to stay home to look after kids. That has a knock on effect on the country as a whole -especially the health service.

If a load of nurses/doctors suddenly had to stay home to look after children imagine the effects on the health service. And all for minimal effect. All it would take would be one or two infected people to travel to the country 2 weeks after any school closure and we'd be back at square one.

Right now we as a country need to continue to be vigilant on handwashing, not travel to affected regions, not allow people in from affected regions and try to restrict movement.

that will help keep the virus from spreading.


Theres approx 3 full weeks of school left until easter break. IMO we should be hoping to get to Easter without any major outbreak and then there won't be a need for a closure (outside of normal easter holidays).

JeffKenna

Hopefully they'll have to work it back during the summer months.

poppers

JeffKenna wrote: »

Hopefully they'll have to work it back during the summer months.

Early easter hols. Back to school tues after easter

Nicetrustedcup

And the shopping centers will be full of teenagers just like the summer holidays ....

Hodors Appletart

JeffKenna wrote: »

Hopefully they'll have to work it back during the summer months.

jesus like

wanderer 22

JeffKenna wrote: »

Hopefully they'll have to work it back during the summer months.

Did you ever think you'd become this person? :-p

political analyst

There'll be a national psychosis if the Junior and Leaving Cert exams are either postponed or don't take place at all this year! Students due to sit the Leaving Cert this year might have to stay at school for another year.

CathalDublin

daheff wrote: »

no point in closing schools right now as 99.9999% of people aren't infected, so there is nobody to spread the infection right now.

You know this how?
Do you know how many people in Ireland have been tested?

Boggles

daheff wrote: »

Same post as i made there. no point in closing schools right now as 99.9999% of people aren't infected, so there is nobody to spread the infection right now.

That "data" at best is a week old.

Stevieluvsye

Mr.S wrote: »

Not that I don't trust the journalistic capabilities of the Connaught Telegraph, but is there another source?

I had a call from someone in a relevant dept about this, this morning and told specifically not to "Put it up in that stupid boards place"

Salary Negotiator

Mr.S wrote: »

Not that I don't trust the journalistic capabilities of the Connaught Telegraph, but is there another source?

My GF texted me earlier to say that her principal told her she’s waiting on the call to confirm the closures.

Teachers are being told to prepare work for the students (primary school) to take home with them.

Dravokivich

poppers wrote: »

Early easter hols. Back to school tues after easter

Wont be early holidays. Just find a way to share learning/revision plans and study at home. If it comes to it, my son wont be getting extra time off.

Rows Grower

The local primary school here is supposed to be finishing up this Friday is what I was told.

completedit

daheff wrote: »

already posts about this in the teaching thread.



Same post as i made there. no point in closing schools right now as 99.9999% of people aren't infected, so there is nobody to spread the infection right now.


Closing schools at this point won't help. All it will do is force more parents to stay at home out of work or the kids will be sent to afterschool camps.

Or parents will take them off on holidays like they did in Italy.


Now if there is a wider outbreak, then yes close the schools. Now isn't that time.

That’s some strange view you have of prevention. Normal life has to adjust. We need to adapt to the reality. Shutting down now will be the best long term solution. We are going to be hit. Jobs are going to suffer. It’s just how it is. But if the government would take the big decisions now, we’ll be in the best situation to recover from the fallout

Hodors Appletart

some meath TD tweeting that there are no plans to close schools wholesale

Riskymove

https://twitter.com/ThomasByrneTD/status/1237394636680753154

Icyseanfitz

Let's wait until it's too late and then close them ��

endacl

JeffKenna wrote: »

Hopefully they'll have to work it back during the summer months.

Well you say ‘work’. I’ll show up, if I have to, but there won’t be much work done as only a tiny proportion of students will show.

‘Blinds down, lads. Netflix time. We’ll stick on something that has to do with the syllabus’.

Ah, relax. I wouldn’t do that. Because I won’t be there. Because teachers can’t be compelled during the summer.

olestoepoke

endacl wrote: »

Well you say ‘work’. I’ll show up, if I have to, but there won’t be much work done as only a tiny proportion of students will show.

‘Blinds down, lads. Netflix time. We’ll stick on something that has to do with the syllabus’.

Ah, relax. I wouldn’t do that. Because I won’t be there. Because teachers can’t be compelled during the summer.

I heard in France that the teachers have to work for a couple of weeks to correct the exam papers. Great Idea, I mean they are getting paid anyway so why pay them twice to correct the state exams?

Stevieluvsye

Riskymove wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ThomasByrneTD/status/1237394636680753154

Paddy's day was "defo" going ahead also

Riskymove

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Paddy's day was "defo" going ahead also

and schools may well end up closing at some point but todays stories were suggesting imminent closure

Stevieluvsye

Riskymove wrote: »

and schools may well end up closing at some point but todays stories were suggesting imminent closure

Middle of next week

Riskymove

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Middle of next week

suggesting an imminent announcement then!


in any event the Department doesn't say schools wont close just that it will be lead by health advice......so if the health advice changes.......

lucy2010

endacl wrote: »

Well you say ‘work’. I’ll show up, if I have to, but there won’t be much work done as only a tiny proportion of students will show.

‘Blinds down, lads. Netflix time. We’ll stick on something that has to do with the syllabus’.

Ah, relax. I wouldn’t do that. Because I won’t be there. Because teachers can’t be compelled during the summer.

Any idea /suggestion how they may manage the LC ?

Stevieluvsye

Westmeath now apparently

https://www.westmeathexaminer.ie/2020/03/10/decision-on-school-closures-imminent/

the recommendation was made at a meeting yesterday of representatives of education interests across the country

In other words, they asked the teachers and the teachers decided they should take a month off work.close the schools to prevent the spread.

blanch152

https://www.education.ie/en/Press-Events/Press-Releases/2020-press-releases/covid-19-statement-10mar20.html


Seems like no school closures...............yet.

And that Meath TD is the FF education spokesperson, would have a better idea than any of us.

LorelaiG

My guess is that if there is an announcement to be made it won't be made until Friday afternoon when the kids are home from school so that people don't start taking their kids off earlier thus missing more days.

Rows Grower

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/coronavirus-speculation-that-schools-could-shut-over-outbreak-dismissed-987029.html

Higgins5473

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.education.ie/en/Press-Events/Press-Releases/2020-press-releases/covid-19-statement-10mar20.html


Seems like no school closures...............yet.

And that Meath TD is the FF education spokesperson, would have a better idea than any of us.

Was that dept posted in the last few hours?

CathalDublin

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Was that dept posted in the last few hours?

URL would suggest today anyway
covid-19-statement-10mar20.html

JP Liz V1

Is all the school ski trips to Italy cancelled?

Mad_maxx

daheff wrote: »

already posts about this in the teaching thread.



Same post as i made there. no point in closing schools right now as 99.9999% of people aren't infected, so there is nobody to spread the infection right now.


Closing schools at this point won't help. All it will do is force more parents to stay at home out of work or the kids will be sent to afterschool camps.

Or parents will take them off on holidays like they did in Italy.


Now if there is a wider outbreak, then yes close the schools. Now isn't that time.

il be sure to run if i see you coming in the weeks ahead

" you cant fix stupid "

S.G.M.

JeffKenna wrote:

Hopefully they'll have to work it back during the summer months.

Aegir wrote:

In other words, they asked the teachers and the teachers decided they should take a month off work.close the schools to prevent the spread.

Oh the bitterness is overflowing.

catrat12

Teacher in a primary school here a lot of rumours floating around today but nothing concrete. I would love to see the schools close for the benefit of controlling the virus and seeing would that help and I would have no problem returning early august if it had helped and we know the situation a little better.
To be honest it might make the situation as in my school I know for a fact that teachers and kids and parents would be jetting off everywhere and not really caring about others as long as they get a holiday in.
Nothing about work packs been readied or anything

endacl

olestoepoke wrote: »

I heard in France that the teachers have to work for a couple of weeks to correct the exam papers. Great Idea, I mean they are getting paid anyway so why pay them twice to correct the state exams?

Correcting state exams isn’t part of the job description. I don’t do it because I don’t want to. Lots of teachers apply to correct because of the incentive of extra cash. I don’t need the extra cash. I’m not contracted to correct, and won’t be correcting.

Gael23

This is untrue.
Thread should be locked

endacl

lucy2010 wrote: »

Any idea /suggestion how they may manage the LC ?

No. Not my problem. I don’t teach LC.

daheff

CathalDublin wrote: »

You know this how?
Do you know how many people in Ireland have been tested?

I know this because the HSE are telling us that theres 24 people currently infected. 24/4.83m gives you 99.99995% (ok I rounded up).


Numbers of tested are irrelevant. Numbers of confirmed cases are the denominator. And yes I get that we probably have more cases because we aren't extensively testing. But not to a huge differential (at the moment).

Boggles wrote: »

That "data" at best is a week old.

Any actual source of your "data"?

completedit wrote: »

That’s some strange view you have of prevention. Normal life has to adjust. We need to adapt to the reality. Shutting down now will be the best long term solution. We are going to be hit. Jobs are going to suffer. It’s just how it is. But if the government would take the big decisions now, we’ll be in the best situation to recover from the fallout

All it takes is one or two imported cases afterwards and you are back to where we are now. Do we shut down again then?

I'm not saying don't ever shut down schools/public transport etc....but not now with only 24 cases....all bar one have a known source (ultimately of import). If We had 24 community infections then I might have a different view.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

il be sure to run if i see you coming in the weeks ahead

" you cant fix stupid "

Thanks. Be delighted if you ran away.

blanch152

daheff wrote: »

I know this because the HSE are telling us that theres 24 people currently infected. 24/4.83m gives you 99.99995% (ok I rounded up).


Numbers of tested are irrelevant. Numbers of confirmed cases are the denominator. And yes I get that we probably have more cases because we aren't extensively testing. But not to a huge differential (at the moment).


Any actual source of your "data"?



All it takes is one or two imported cases afterwards and you are back to where we are now. Do we shut down again then?

I'm not saying don't ever shut down schools/public transport etc....but not now with only 24 cases....all bar one have a known source (ultimately of import). If We had 24 community infections then I might have a different view.





Thanks. Be delighted if you ran away.

The one without a known source had been abroad, but not to one of the main affected areas, likelihood that s/he was in a hotspot undetected by that country's government.

Mr E

Mod: Schools are not closing at this point in time. No need for this thread.

Closed.

Higgins5473

Aegir wrote: »

In other words, they asked the teachers and the teachers decided they should take a month off work.close the schools to prevent the spread.

Spend one or two day’s in any given classroom and you will gain two things (1) an appreciation of just how clueless you are about the profession which you are totally unqualified to comment on (2) some kind of virus whether it be a common cold, cough, chest infection or something more serious.

Classrooms in schools in this country are the most non disinfected, unventilated, filthy, disease ridden/swapping/breeding ****heaps you can encounter so pipe you ignorant twat.

Hoboo

Mr E wrote: »

Mod: Schools are not closing at this point in time. No need for this thread.

Closed.

They actually are, just hasn't been made public yet. Meeting finished around 3:30pm.

Just came from meeting. Containment strategy is working great so far. It's gonna mitigate the worst effects. There will be deaths but it's unfortunately not something we can do about at the moment. I can't see any reason why schools would he closed.

Beasty

Hoboo wrote: »

They actually are, just hasn't been made public yet. Meeting finished around 3:30pm.

Irrelevant until it is announced

In addition it's bad enough having to keep an eye on fake news in one thread - we're not going to spread this particular disease across the forum....