Woman killed by van in Raheny

Jkegit

Pedestrian dies after being struck by van in Dublin


https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0304/1120285-raheny-crash/

Car accident? Shooting?

Mickeroo

Is it this?

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1235321516029599749?s=19

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1235321593355808778

Sleeper12

One female pedestrian hit. Twitter gone mad saying 12 injured.

BanditLuke

2 seperate incidents same van maybe?

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/amaralou2/status/1235329038471835652

listermint

BanditLuke wrote: »

2 seperate incidents same van maybe?

It's one incident. It's the James larkin road. Don't mind the Spoofers on here feeding off twitter mania.

BanditLuke

listermint wrote: »

It's one incident. It's the James larkin road. Don't mind the Spoofers on here feeding off twitter mania.

Thank god for that.

Atlantic Dawn

Here's where it occured
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3817926,-6.1506228,3a,75y,190.17h,83.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9JGnqRlF9f9dEPfUsNm-Xg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Sleeper12

1 lady jogger hit. Driver had a diabetic turn

It's in Raheny and not Baldoyle.

This is why I don't do twitter. Its full of twits

Poor_old_gill

listermint wrote: »

It's one incident. It's the James larkin road. Don't mind the Spoofers on here feeding off twitter mania.

Road is tight there and the curb is low - genuinely don’t like driving that stretch

Sleeper12

Atlantic Dawn wrote:

Here's where it occured

A good mile away from Baldoyle

Loughc

Ohmeha wrote: »

There is no way a driver could have a diabetic turn and drive snuggly onto that sectioned off path/cycle track and then run a number of people down over a long stretch without himself driving off into the sea

It was one person not a number of people.

Sleeper12

This poor lady has now died.

Mods can we get this shut down out of respect for the lady

highdef

I've read that the lady has not survived.

Sleeper12

highdef wrote:

I've read that the lady has not survived.

It's very sad.

R.I.P

Sephiroth_dude

Mod

I've just tidied up the thread, deleted posts with the wrong information

re opened.
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AlmightyCushion

News story about it in The Irish Times.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/van-driven-1km-on-dublin-walkway-before-fatally-injuring-jogger-1.4193893

It says the driver was driving on the path for about 1KM before hitting the woman. I wonder was he driving on the path before having the medical incident and hitting the woman or did the incident cause him to go on to the path?

Jim Root

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

News story about it in The Irish Times.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/van-driven-1km-on-dublin-walkway-before-fatally-injuring-jogger-1.4193893

It says the driver was driving on the path for about 1KM before hitting the woman. I wonder was he driving on the path before having the medical incident and hitting the woman or did the incident cause him to go on to the path?

he was hardly driving on the path for the craic now was he?

AndrewJRenko

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

News story about it in The Irish Times.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/van-driven-1km-on-dublin-walkway-before-fatally-injuring-jogger-1.4193893

It says the driver was driving on the path for about 1KM before hitting the woman. I wonder was he driving on the path before having the medical incident and hitting the woman or did the incident cause him to go on to the path?

Hard to imagine how you could be driving on the path for 1km while having a medical incident?

Stark

Jim Root wrote: »

he was hardly driving on the path for the craic now was he?

Not much surprises me in Dublin.

Sleeper12

I live so close to the scene that I could spit and almost hit it. Locally its been claimed that he had a diabetic incident. Can't say how true it is but this has been claimed hours before it was announced that she had died.

She has four young children. Truly tragic

Sleeper12

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Hard to imagine how you could be driving on the path for 1km while having a medical incident?

He came down the Kilbarrack Road & entered the cycle track at that junction with the coast Road. From there all he could do is drive in a straight line as there was now a Two foot wall between his van & the road.

macwal

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He came down the Kilbarrack Road & entered the cycle track at that junction with the coast Road. From there all he could do is drive in a straight line as there was now a Two foot wall between his van & the road.

So the van was effectively "on-rails", in gear, with the driver unconscious or incapacitated?

JCX BXC

macwal wrote: »

So the van was effectively "on-rails", in gear, with the driver unconscious or incapacitated?

Well no, there's only a wall on one side, there's water on the other.

Very hard to see how an incapacitated driver manage to drive along a cyclepath for a kilometer. This can't be as clear-cut as some are making it out to be.

Very sad.

Sleeper12

macwal wrote: »

So the van was effectively "on-rails", in gear, with the driver unconscious or incapacitated?

I'm concerned that graving family or friends could read this thread & don't want to speculate wildly but That's a possibility. I wasn't there but if he was indeed having some kind of medical emergency I can see how this could happen. There has been absolutely no mention of anyone being arrested at the scene or held for questioning so I can only assume that there if truth in the "health issues" story.

yourdeadwright

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I'm concerned that graving family or friends could read this thread & don't want to speculate wildly but That's a possibility. I wasn't there but if he was indeed having some kind of medical emergency I can see how this could happen. There has been absolutely no mention of anyone being arrested at the scene or held for questioning so I can only assume that there if truth in the "health issues" story.

Van drove for at least 1k on the inside down the cycle/walking track ,I seen where it stopped ,

I find it hard to believe he had a medical issues and the Van ended up up there by accident but was then able to continue 1 k down an narrow stretch without crashing into the wall or sea ?

Very strange and very said ,

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Sleeper12

yourdeadwright wrote:

I find it hard to believe he had a medical issues and the Van ended up up there by accident but was then able to continue 1 k down an narrow stretch without crashing into the wall or sea ?

Who said that he didn't tear the side off the van?

The Gardai have statements from other motorists from the Kilbarrack and Coast road. They know what route he took and they know how he was driving before entering the cycle track.

Thelonious Monk

I was on Sandymount Strand last night and could see 2 helicopters buzzing around towards Howth, sad what it turned out to be.
So many people have died in car accidents recently, 7 at the weekend, this poor lady and another man died last night in a stationary car.
I don't get why we just shrug our shoulders when it comes to car deaths which are a horribly gruesome way to go, but the Corona virus is treated like the end of the world.

whiskeyman

Tragic.
Been on that track lots of times and often would think 'at least I'm safe here'.

Poor kids, family and friends.
RIP.

whodafunk

I actually passed this stretch on my bike yesterday evening 30mins before the tragic accident. I thought the track generally was really busy close to 18:30. Huge number of runners out. Very sad. RIP.

reg114

The Council will now have to install bollards to prevent vehicles getting access to the cycle lane / pedestrian walkway along the sea front there to prevent a recurrence of what appears to be an albeit freak tragedy.

TsuDhoNimh

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I find it hard to believe he had a medical issues...

If it was related to (Diabetic) Hypoglycaemia, it's 100% possible.

The driver, if it is the case, would also have an incredibly hazy right up to absolutely no memory of it. Once blood sugars drop low enough it can basically (and mostly does) become a complete blackout for the person concerned despite appearing responsive to people around them.

Yet a Diabetic is able to make (very poor and pretty incoherent) conversation (often mistaken for being under the influence of alcohol) or carry out an act like driving (just with very poor judgement or reaction times, with a high potential to lose control at any moment).

For years as a child my brother would randomly ask me capital cities of obscure countries if he noticed unusual behaviour. He knew if I responded with "Yeah", or something equally out of place, I probably needed some Lucozade.

Thelonious Monk

TsuDhoNimh wrote: »

If it was related to (Diabetic) Hypoglycaemia, it's 100% possible.

The driver, if it is the case, would also have an incredibly hazy right up to absolutely no memory of it. Once blood sugars drop low enough it can basically (and mostly does) become a complete blackout for the person concerned despite appearing responsive to people around them.

Yet a Diabetic is able to make (very poor and pretty incoherent) conversation (often mistaken for being under the influence of alcohol) or carry out an act like driving (just with very poor judgement or reaction times, with a high potential to lose control at any moment).

For years as a child my brother would randomly ask me capital cities of obscure countries if he noticed unusual behaviour. He knew if I responded with "Yeah", or something equally out of place, I probably needed some Lucozade.

He shouldn't have been behind the wheel of a car in that case

Princess Calla

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He came down the Kilbarrack Road & entered the cycle track at that junction with the coast Road. From there all he could do is drive in a straight line as there was now a Two foot wall between his van & the road.

So he entered at the waterworks and drove up towards the new apartments being built on the coast road?

I regularly walk that route, so very frightening that this could happen.

God love the woman and her family.

Plus if it's a health issue the poor driver too.

RandomViewer

TsuDhoNimh wrote: »

If it was related to (Diabetic) Hypoglycaemia, it's 100% possible.

The driver, if it is the case, would also have an incredibly hazy right up to absolutely no memory of it. Once blood sugars drop low enough it can basically (and mostly does) become a complete blackout for the person concerned despite appearing responsive to people around them.

Yet a Diabetic is able to make (very poor and pretty incoherent) conversation (often mistaken for being under the influence of alcohol) or carry out an act like driving (just with very poor judgement or reaction times, with a high potential to lose control at any moment).

For years as a child my brother would randomly ask me capital cities of obscure countries if he noticed unusual behaviour. He knew if I responded with "Yeah", or something equally out of place, I probably needed some Lucozade.

You'd fell a hypo coming on, lack of concentration would kick in around 3.5 ,should know to stop.

yourdeadwright

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Who said that he didn't tear the side off the van?

The Gardai have statements from other motorists from the Kilbarrack and Coast road. They know what route he took and they know how he was driving before entering the cycle track.

I seen the side of the van that would be on the wall side and it looked completely fine , Now I couldn't see the bumper or the front as a bush was in the way ,

yourdeadwright

reg114 wrote: »

The Council will now have to install bollards to prevent vehicles getting access to the cycle lane / pedestrian walkway along the sea front there to prevent a recurrence of what appears to be an albeit freak tragedy.

The only open parts are at Kilbarrick road turn and the down at Baldoyle ,
They are needed for ambulances to get up if anything happens ,

I didn't see any of the wall damaged but maybe I missed it ,
Bizzare if the Van made it all the way from the Kilbarrick turn down to where it was stopped ,

Again maybe I missed where the wall was smashed ,

Sleeper12

Princess Calla wrote: »

So he entered at the waterworks and drove up towards the new apartments being built on the coast road?

I regularly walk that route, so very frightening that this could happen.

God love the woman and her family.

Plus if it's a health issue the poor driver too.

This is exactly what happened. The lady was jogging I believe & possibly had headphones/earphones on.



There is no proof on health issue or not but health issue has been reported There has been no reporting of man being arrested at the scene so I would think far too early to go blaming the driver

Princess Calla

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This is exactly what happened. The lady was jogging I believe & possibly had headphones/earphones on.



There is no proof on health issue or not but health issue has been reported There has been no reporting of man being arrested at the scene so I would think far too early to go blaming the driver

Given that route I'm surprised only one person was hit. It's always very busy.

Sleeper12

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I agree completely with this only problem is we do not know 100% if that's what happened,

The wall at the black banks is very low, half a foot if even high ,
He could have went on top the cycle path there , I drove past but didn't see the wall smashed anywhere but I could have easily missed it ,

He drove from The Kilbarack road, across the coast road & turned onto the cycle track instead of the road itself. There are whiteness & Gardai know what route he took. The route isn't in doubt

Assetbacked

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I was on Sandymount Strand last night and could see 2 helicopters buzzing around towards Howth, sad what it turned out to be.
So many people have died in car accidents recently, 7 at the weekend, this poor lady and another man died last night in a stationary car.
I don't get why we just shrug our shoulders when it comes to car deaths which are a horribly gruesome way to go, but the Corona virus is treated like the end of the world.

Old people, drunk people and speeding idiots are causing the death statistics to rise on the road. Just because someone kills themselves in the middle of the night due to drunk driving, this should be called out. It's not enough to just report a single vehicle crash at 4am, by way of example.

That's for another thread though. This poor woman, I just think it my sister or a friend or someone out loving their life, jogging and relaxing only to have it taken from them. Absolutely awful. RIP.

Ohmeha

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The only open parts are at Kilbarrick road turn and the down at Baldoyle ,
They are needed for ambulances to get up if anything happens ,

I didn't see any of the wall damaged but maybe I missed it ,
Bizzare if the Van made it all the way from the Kilbarrick turn down to where it was stopped ,

Again maybe I missed where the wall was smashed ,

If the van hit the wall where the path/cycle section kinks left at the junction of James Larkin Road then I can't see how the van ended up an approx further 100 metres still on the path while 'appearing' to be looking undamaged from the photo of the stationary van. It looks to me the van had to be under some level control/direction to get to where it got, how much the driver was aware/unaware only investigators and experts can establish that

There will certainly have to be bollards placed at all entries along that stretch from Sutton to Clontarf

Thelonious Monk

I wear headphones every day on bike, just podcasts and talk radio. Can still hear all traffic. Surely you think cars should have no radios and have to have windows down for safety too?

bkrangle

Ohmeha wrote: »

If the van hit the wall where the path/cycle section kinks left at the junction of James Larkin Road then I can't see how the van ended up an approx further 100 metres still on the path while 'appearing' to be looking undamaged from the photo of the stationary van. It looks to me the van had to be under some level control/direction to get to where it got, how much the driver was aware/unaware only investigators and experts can establish that

There will certainly have to be bollards placed at all entries along that stretch from Sutton to Clontarf

I believe the van entered the cycle/foot path at the junction between the James Larkin Road and Kilbarrack Road. The driver must have taken a sharp right turn there to stay on the cycle/foot path.

Spanish Eyes

Terrible tragedy, both for the woman who died and the person who was driving.

Just on the issue of headphones, I only use one bluetooth at a volume I can hear, in one ear only when out walking. Don't mean to sound superior or anything, just what I do, then I can usually hear what's around me too. But I have hearing difficulties, and I know what works for me.

May that lady rest in peace. Must be terribly shocking for her family and friends. So sudden.

Princess Calla

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I was thinking exactly the same thing myself. But I'd say the driver is distraught now, and I doubt it was deliberate either. What a tragedy for all of them.

I'm actually sick to my stomach as I walk there regularly with the baby in the pram and the lil fella on the buggy board.

If a van was coming towards me I don't know what I'd do, as no way I could lift the pram up on the wall, so my options would be the sea or turn and try to out run the van. If the van was behind me I'd doubt I'd register as there's so much traffic along that road.

macwal

Sleeper12 wrote: »

He drove from The Kilbarack road, across the coast road & turned onto the cycle track instead of the road itself. There are whiteness & Gardai know what route he took. The route isn't in doubt

I had a look at that on Google Maps, that's a very tight turn, very hard to imagine someone managing to do that whilst under a medical condition (if I'm looking at the right spot).


Would the traffic on the Howth/Dublin Road have been heavy at whatever time it happened? I have no idea what the traffic is like around there, but any chance he was trying to beat traffic all the way down to Causeway Road?

Effects

Princess Calla wrote: »

turn and try to out run the van.

This is what they always do in the movies and it never works. You need to go perpendicular to the vehicle.

roddney

I guess eventually it ends up that a thread on boards is about a friend as in this case.

I really don’t see the point of this thread and it’s in very bad taste.