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Narrow bed against wall - screening plants

  • 28-02-2020 1:24pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭


    I’m getting a patio built and it will include a narrow planting bed ( 1’ wide, open to ground under neath) between a boundary wall (c 5’ high) and a low seating wall (c 2’ high). I want to plant something that will provide screening between patio and neighbour (over the boundary wall.

    I’m thinking some kind of bamboo. Any other suggestions to consider ?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,960 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Be careful with Bamboo. It's roots can almost escape anywhere. Also remember that footings, foundations etc intrude into borders especially when the builders don't spare the cement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Toughest job I ever had to do in the garden was get rid of poxy bamboo.

    Burn it now, OP. Before you plant it. Only way to be sure.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How about a good quality trellis and a scented climber like honeysuckle? That would be lovely at a seating area. A small beech hedge would be a year round screen.

    ‘Right plant, right place’ is an important garden rule, otherwise what you choose may not thrive, flower or not suit. So with that in mind, what direction does the new garden face, is it sunny south or west facing or shady north or east facing, that will determine what will suit. Is the planting bed raised off the ground or dug into it? That will determine if it’s free draining? Is the soil acidic, alkaline or neutral, waterlogged or heavy clay? What level of maintenance/ gardening would you like to do? That will have a bearing if you go for fussy flowers/plants that need pruning and attention. Do you have any colours in particular that you like? I always think starting a garden is almost like buying a pet �� you need to think about size when fully grown your level of commitment etc

    Things I love that would be nice for the planting bed below and are low maintenance are a combination of catmint, salvia, scabious, with lupins, in purple/blue tones. They attract so many lovely bees and butterflies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭headtheball14


    Bamboo is a bit of a curse, there are varieties that aren’t as invasive but it could lift patio slabs, I have something similar though I’m not trying to screen from next door. At 5 foot wall do you need to?
    I’ve been putting some herbs there. It’s lovely to brush past and get the scent or grab some for a drink on the way .
    I’m also setting some sweet pea and hoping to train it up the wall along with possibly a fig tree but I might keep that in a pot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I suggest you do not use trellis if you are planting any of the vigorous wall shrubs. Use something like vine eyes and wire - even if it is pulled down it is reasonably easy to replace. I have had honeysuckle on a trellis twist through the slats and completely buckle and distort the trellis. And once it has done that it is impossible to extract the broken timber. It was pretty substantial trellis, not the very lightweight stuff you get in garden centres.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Thisonedone


    Bamboo looks great and is fine as long as you use non invasive clumping bamboo and use a barrier such as high density polyethylene. You could also put them in a lined planter box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭okedoke


    Thanks for the comments folks. To clarify a few things:
    - the area where the patio will be is bounded by a c. 5 wall, one the patio is installed the ground level would be c 6'' higher so it will be a 4.5' wall. I'm getting a low wall (c. 2') built c. 1' out from this with the gap between filled with topsoil. This is where i'm planting into so it will be pretty free draining.

    - the wall will face north, so shaded until the plants reach the level of the boundary wall (2.5/3') and then full sun.

    - comments about the roots of bamboo are interesting/concerning - would the block walls on each side of this planting trench be at risk from (clumping) bamboo roots?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,221 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    okedoke wrote: »
    - comments about the roots of bamboo are interesting/concerning - would the block walls on each side of this planting trench be at risk from (clumping) bamboo roots?

    Clumping bamoo is fine IMO. It's the running stuff you need to avoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Honeysuckle, climbing hydrangea and some roses would be good on a north wall. Put in things like ferns, berginia, woodland bulbs to fill in the bottom.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    looksee wrote: »
    Honeysuckle, climbing hydrangea and some roses would be good on a north wall. Put in things like ferns, berginia, woodland bulbs to fill in the bottom.

    Hostas are also a classic combination with ferns, for colour wood anemones are lovely.


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