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Slipped on ice train platform

  • 26-02-2020 9:12pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭✭


    I slipped on ice while about to embark on a train this morning. The platform wasn't fully gritted. I hurt my leg and hip. Nothing broken I hope and think. Would I have grounds for a claim against Irish rail.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    What injuries did the doctor say you have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭johnayo


    Hopefully not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Blingy


    Did you not realise it was icy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Always somebody else's fault... :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    billyhead wrote: »
    I slipped on ice while about to embark on a train this morning. The platform wasn't fully gritted. I hurt my leg and hip. Nothing broken I hope and think. Would I have grounds for a claim against Irish rail.

    Do Irish rail control the weather? They had grit down you just weren’t careful, so no.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Blingy wrote: »
    Did you not realise it was icy?

    It was dark and wasn't visible. I didn't go to a doctor. I'm am hoping the pain subsides but the leg is very sore on my right side and when I fell I banged my shin off the bottom edge of the door frame so the shin is grazed and sore aswell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    Definitely.

    Probably about €2million

    Maybe ask for €5 million


    Sure why not. It's not as if anyone has to take personal responsibility and open their eyes.



    Also, next time it rains have a slip and blame the council for not drying the paths for you.


    Mod
    Darc19
    This is a legal discussion thread. Poster was entitled to raise this matter without the smart alec comments


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭physioman


    billyhead wrote: »
    I slipped on ice while about to embark on a train this morning. The platform wasn't fully gritted. I hurt my leg and hip. Nothing broken I hope and think. Would I have grounds for a claim against Irish rail.

    Probably but you shouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    Cop onto yourself will you. If you’re not injured and at a loss of time in work etc then stop looking for a payday. People like you are the reason all of our insurance premiums have gone through the roof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Do Irish rail control the weather? They had grit down you just weren’t careful, so no.

    Were I slipped it wasn't gritted and this was the part of the platform from where you step into the train.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    billyhead wrote: »
    It was dark and wasn't visible. I didn't go to a doctor. I'm am hoping the pain subsides but the leg is very sore on my right side and when I fell I banged my shin off the bottom edge of the door frame so the shin is grazed and sore aswell.

    Ah you poor thing. You grazed your shin. You sound like a whingy child.

    Mod
    You are attacking the poster rather than the post
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    Can you sue Met Eireann.....:)


    Mod
    Comedians have arrived


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    Cop onto yourself will you. If you’re not injured and at a loss of time in work etc then stop looking for a payday. People like you are the reason all of our insurance premiums have gone through the roof.

    Wrong I am injured. Theres pain and grazes etc for a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    billyhead wrote: »
    It was dark and wasn't visible. I didn't go to a doctor. I'm am hoping the pain subsides but the leg is very sore on my right side and when I fell I banged my shin off the bottom edge of the door frame so the shin is grazed and sore aswell.

    Grazed shin !! Cop on you utter clown .. have a cup of tea and go to bed. Christ almighty. Bloody scroungers everywhere these days

    Mod
    Imho poster entitled to raise this matter in Legal Discussion without being insulted


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    billyhead wrote: »
    Were I slipped it wasn't gritted and this was the part of the platform from where you step into the train.

    It’s a no, but I’m guessing this thread is a wind up,
    If not you need to get a grip on reality


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭physioman


    billyhead wrote: »
    Came off the bike on Saturday. Wheel went from under me turning a sharp corner. I think there was grease on the road. Broke the wrist. Only good think is that it wasn't the dominant hand.

    Your broken wrist wouldn't have helped in preventing you saving yourself from falling. Are you suing the council for grease on the road as Well!


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you broke your hip or your leg I think you’d know by now. So you have no injuries , just the usual soreness you’d get if you fell anywhere. You could just have easily slipped on a path or your driveway. But because it’s at a train station the first thing you think of is claim for personal injuries.
    THIS is exactly why our insurance costs are soaring out of control . If the general public look on a simple trip or slip as a means of claiming from someone we only have ourselves to blame for rising insurance costs.

    So OP , next time that your train ticket jumps by 20% or you get a huge increase in your house or car insurance of if the local football club , community group, crèche, playcentre closes due to insurance hikes, please don’t complain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    billyhead wrote: »
    Wrong I am injured. Theres pain and grazes etc for a reason.

    And yet you didn’t feel the need to attend a doctor for your “injuries”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,601 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I'm completely and utterly fed up of the pathetic claim culture in this country. Hopefully the coronavirus does arrive and wipes a few of these morons/scroungers out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭Ferm001


    Started of with Leg and hip, now shin added in, by the time you get to the court steps what else will be included. You fell, sh*t happens, why should somebody other than yourself be to blame.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,175 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    No need for all the personal abuse. I was only asking. It's easy for keyboard warriors to say they wouldn't but I am sure if you fell on train platform that should be gritted as a duty of customer care and injured yourself you would probably think the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    You missed the inportant bit. Stay down until the ambulance arrives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,879 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I'm completely and utterly fed up of the pathetic claim culture in this country. Hopefully the coronavirus does arrive and wipes a few of these morons/scroungers out.

    I hope China is prepared for the onslaught of claims that will be lodged against them....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    How much do you think it'll take to make the pain go away OP? Three or four numbers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    billyhead wrote: »
    No need for all the personal abuse. I was only asking. It's easy for keyboard warriors to say they wouldn't but I am sure if you fell on train platform that should be gritted as a duty of customer care and injured yourself you would probably think the same.

    Why should it be gritted?

    Footpaths are not gritted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,576 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    billyhead wrote: »
    I slipped on ice while about to embark on a train this morning. The platform wasn't fully gritted. I hurt my leg and hip. Nothing broken I hope and think. Would I have grounds for a claim against Irish rail.

    Boo hoo sore leg.

    “Can I claim?”

    It’s people like you who fück everything up for the rest of us. Suck it up and on the next cold morning look out for ice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Baby01032012


    Thought this was after hours.

    Sound like you are under 18 so you’d need to take a case through your parents.

    Doesn’t sound like you reported it immediately to staff at the station or went to your GP so you’ve no evidence to support your claim.

    So grow a pair and grow up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,601 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    billyhead wrote: »
    No need for all the personal abuse. I was only asking. It's easy for keyboard warriors to say they wouldn't but I am sure if you fell on train platform that should be gritted as a duty of customer care and injured yourself you would probably think the same.

    No I wouldn't. I'd be embarrassed I fell, it wouldn't even enter my mind to consider a claim against anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    billyhead wrote:
    Were I slipped it wasn't gritted and this was the part of the platform from where you step into the train.


    Do you have witnesses? Did you take photos showing the this particular area wasn't gritted?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,879 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    No I wouldn't. I'd be embarrassed I fell, it wouldn't even enter my mind to consider a claim against anyone.

    And I’d hope to fcuk no one saw me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    Consult a solicitor is the non After Hours idiot type answer, not folk on boards who believe the insurance industries guff about fraudulent claims vs naked profiteering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Do you work for a tech company and were in at the work nurse this morning OP? If so I was the other lad that was in with the nurse for similar. Irish rail definitely have a duty of care here. I slipped on the way from the carpark to where I work as the path wasn't sufficiently gritted. I guarantee they will have an army of gritters out if it is frosty tomorrow morning.

    Irish rail should take incidents like this seriously also and make sure their platforms are ice free. I was just lucky that I was only slightly injured from stopping myself falling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    "It's in their (claim) culture boss."
    Live.
    Learn.
    Move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,409 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    billyhead wrote: »
    It was dark and wasn't visible. I didn't go to a doctor. I'm am hoping the pain subsides but the leg is very sore on my right side and when I fell I banged my shin off the bottom edge of the door frame so the shin is grazed and sore aswell.

    Créathur

    :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    :D Well played OP, you got them good. Foaming at the mouth they are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭Abba987


    Do people not fear putting in these claims, being laughed out of court and being told to pay costs for both sides?

    I do think this ones a wind up but in general would you not be terrified you'd end up owing thousands


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    And I’d hope to fcuk no one saw me!!

    What if you were out of work say for two years because you had a serious injury from slipping due to other peoples negligence? You would change your attitude fairly lively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    It’s a no, but I’m guessing this thread is a wind up, If not you need to get a grip on reality


    After the first few posts I clicked on the ops name expecting to see a shiny new account. I was genuinely surprised to see that the account is 14 years old!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,374 ✭✭✭893bet


    physioman wrote: »
    Your broken wrist wouldn't have helped in preventing you saving yourself from falling. Are you suing the council for grease on the road as Well!

    So he has a broken hand from a week ago.....hahaha

    What a chancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,157 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If you were the person behind me getting on my train, the hand rails at the door would have worked fine (as they did for me and the person in front of me) if you weren't holding a keep cup... :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,879 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    What if you were out of work say for two years because you had a serious injury from slipping due to other peoples negligence? You would change your attitude fairly lively.

    If I’d injured myself to that extent, you’d be sure that by now I’d have sought medical assistance, and not gone on Boards that night asking if there was any chance of a claim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    easypazz wrote: »
    Why should it be gritted?

    Footpaths are not gritted.

    Footpaths should be gritted, like they are in most countries with basic standards. A train station platform should most definitely be thoroughly de-iced as well, common sense to prevent falls like OP's plus other more potentially serious accidents like people slipping and falling on live track.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    billyhead wrote: »
    No need for all the personal abuse. I was only asking. It's easy for keyboard warriors to say they wouldn't but I am sure if you fell on train platform that should be gritted as a duty of customer care and injured yourself you would probably think the same.


    No I wouldn’t !
    Last year I was leaving work in Dublin rushing for my train , I fell going round the corner of a street , actually tripped on manhole cover . I fell and got a fright and 2 sore knees and cut my hand . Did I claim from Dublin City council .... NO !

    I felt it was completely my fault for not looking where I was going, felt like an eejit, got up brushed myself off and ran for the train ! I’m a woman in my fifties . Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself . It’s sickening when people put in claims for this kind of stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    If I’d injured myself to that extent, you’d be sure that by now I’d have sought medical assistance, and not gone on Boards that night asking if there was any chance of a claim.

    Tis the way of the modern world, we are all on here spouting ****e when we have no skin in the game :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Do you work for a tech company and were in at the work nurse this morning OP? If so I was the other lad that was in with the nurse for similar. Irish rail definitely have a duty of care here. I slipped on the way from the carpark to where I work as the path wasn't sufficiently gritted. I guarantee they will have an army of gritters out if it is frosty tomorrow morning.

    Irish rail should take incidents like this seriously also and make sure their platforms are ice free. I was just lucky that I was only slightly injured from stopping myself falling.

    Work nurse? I thought there was such a shortage that even the hospitals can’t get them. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    No I wouldn’t !
    Last year I was leaving work in Dublin rushing for my train , I fell going round the corner of a street , actually tripped on manhole cover . I fell and got a fright and 2 sore knees and cut my hand . Did I claim from Dublin City council .... NO !

    I felt it was completely my fault for not looking where I was going, felt like an eejit, got up brushed myself off and ran for the train ! I’m a woman in my fifties . Grow up and take some responsibility for yourself . It’s sickening when people put in claims for this kind of stuff.

    Agree with you on the personal responsibility front but what happens when the manhole cover is left open again and someone falls in or falls badly and has life changing injuries? You were reckless not reporting it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,879 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Tis the way of the modern world

    Yep, far too many spongers out there just looking for their chance at a payday due to their own stupidness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭sheldon16


    Where does it say anywhere on Irish rail that platforms have to be gritted?

    What would you do if you slipped on a puddle? Sue them for not drying the place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    billyhead wrote: »
    It was dark and wasn't visible. I didn't go to a doctor. I'm am hoping the pain subsides but the leg is very sore on my right side and when I fell I banged my shin off the bottom edge of the door frame so the shin is grazed and sore aswell.

    It was dark,so the ice wasn't visible yet you can tell the path wasn't gritted.


    You probably should get an adult to accompany you in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    CCTV will be your making or breaking OP.
    All stations are heavily monitored.
    If you're acting the bollix with a spurious claim , you'll meet your arse on the way back down in court.

    I'm not sure they are obliged to grit because a lot of stations are fitted anti-slip paving ,, routeways etc.


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