Ivan Yates to retire in August

Snow Garden

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ivan-yates-i-was-a-poster-boy-for-bankruptcy-tourism-1.4174180

Broadcaster and former Fine Gael minister Ivan Yates is planning to retire this summer and live a quieter life on the family farm following the settlement of a legal dispute with AIB over ownership of his Wexford property.

He says he is unable to put into words the intensity of the battle he has had to wage over the past decade to prevent the loss of the property to the bank, and to do so while all the time being so in the public eye.

“I’ve turned 60 now and I’ve been in the public eye since I was elected to the Dáil in ’81,” he says.

That's a pity. I have always enjoyed his banter. He has give some great insights in our political system down the years too.

TheMilkyPirate

Snow Garden wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ivan-yates-i-was-a-poster-boy-for-bankruptcy-tourism-1.4174180



That's a pity. I have always enjoyed his banter. He has give some great insights in our political system down the years too.

That's a shame Ivan is brilliant I love listening to him.

Allinall

Snow Garden wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ivan-yates-i-was-a-poster-boy-for-bankruptcy-tourism-1.4174180



That's a pity. I have always enjoyed his banter. He has give some great insights in our political system down the years too.

Never known anyone to work as hard as Ivan.

Fair play to him for coming back from the brink and getting his sh1t back together.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Possible presidential material in a few years time.

mattser

Fcuk the loss.

spakman

Allinall wrote: »

Never known anyone to work as hard as Ivan.

Fair play to him for coming back from the brink and getting his sh1t back together.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Possible presidential material in a few years time.

I presume you're taking the piss?

Peatys

Allinall wrote: »

Possible presidential material in a few years time.

Absolutely.

Long_Wave

He does this every couple of years but always comes back.

NIMAN

I'll miss him on the radio but funnily think he's poor on the TV.

dark crystal

Retiring at 60? That must be nice.

Meanwhile the rest of us will be made work until we're 68+

Peatys

dark crystal wrote: »

Retiring at 60? That must be nice.

Meanwhile the rest of us will be made work until we're 68+

He's self employed. You can do the same.

Long_Wave

NIMAN wrote: »

I'll miss him on the radio but funnily think he's poor on the TV.

He'll be back, remember his 1 year trip around the world? He was back on air within 6 months! https://m.independent.ie/regionals/goreyguardian/news/ivan-yates-stepping-back-from-public-life-to-travel-34618040.html

dark crystal

Peatys wrote: »

He's self employed. You can do the same.

https://twitter.com/newsworthy_ie/status/1009928687016398848?lang=en

Peatys

dark crystal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newsworthy_ie/status/1009928687016398848?lang=en

You were taking about retiring from radio?

dark crystal

Peatys wrote: »

You were taking about retiring from radio?

He can well afford to.

Guy:Incognito

Allinall wrote: »

Fair play to him for coming back from the brink and getting his sh1t back together.

.

Helped enormously by being able to declare bankruptcy, write off debts and having a very well paid job to walk back in to and large pension .......

pure.conya

dark crystal wrote: »

Retiring at 60? That must be nice.

Meanwhile the rest of us will be made work until we're 68+

who's making us? more like we're lying down and just taking it

05eaftqbrs9jlh

What a cretin. The Peter Casey of broadcasting. Rude for the sake of it, 'holier-than-thou' attitude with all guests unless they're similarly amoral, dismissing experts because his (very limited) experiences preclude him from understanding them. He's a self-confessed alcoholic but instead of doing anything about it, he touts it as normal and laughs at anyone who doesn't ply themselves with drink nightly to numb the pain of all the disappointment and loss he's obviously had to endure because of the crap attitude he has. I'd feel sorry for him because he's such a pity, but he's so hateful in the way he bullies and cajoles people that I can't drum up an iota of sympathy.

Peatys

dark crystal wrote: »

He can well afford to.

Why are you nitpicking? You can retire at 60 if you're self employed is all I'm saying.. and you're free to do the same?

Fireball81

While I like the guy, I'm not sure I agree with him getting a good deal cut with AIB given he can afford to retire at 60.

The paper quotes him as saying they are "absolutely delighted" with the result.

Let's be honest, we'd all like to cut a deal on our debt, especially one that means you can retire at 60.

Fireball81

Peatys wrote: »

Why are you nitpicking? You can retire at 60 if you're self employed is all I'm saying.. and you're free to do the same?

Most people still have debt at that age and can't afford to.

Rikand

Belen Savory Snot wrote: »

What a cretin. The Peter Casey of broadcasting. Rude for the sake of it, 'holier-than-thou' attitude with all guests unless they're similarly amoral, dismissing experts because his (very limited) experiences preclude him from understanding them. He's a self-confessed alcoholic but instead of doing anything about it, he touts it as normal and laughs at anyone who doesn't ply themselves with drink nightly to numb the pain of all the disappointment and loss he's obviously had to ensure because of the crap attitude he has. I'd feel sorry for him because he's such a pity, but he's so hateful in the way he bullies and cajoles people that I can't drum up an iota of sympathy.

I thought I was the only one who felt this way about him

BanditLuke

dark crystal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newsworthy_ie/status/1009928687016398848?lang=en

And he has the neck to preach down to others.

suicide_circus

he's only 60!??

pure.conya

Fireball81 wrote: »

Let's be honest, we'd all like to cut a deal on our debt, especially one that means you can retire at 60.

would we? all I've seen is mostly a "sure what can we do about it" kinda attitude, the banks just love that

dark crystal

Peatys wrote: »

Why are you nitpicking? You can retire at 60 if you're self employed is all I'm saying.. and you're free to do the same?

I don't have a guaranteed income of almost €80,000 as a back-up plan should my self-employment go belly up though.

Not nitpicking at all - my job involves dealing with self-employed people and I can assure you, very few of them will be able to retire at 60.

Harry Palmr

HE saw Donald Trump's America coming before anyone else in the media here was willing to give the notion the time of day. Pity that he was so right. His inside track on politics was his strong suit for sure. Some of his social views are probably what you'd expect of a middle aged Gorey man (and some of it was a put on to get reactions).

satguy

With a very nice €78K pension, funded by tax payers, and still only 60, while his old Party FG want people to sign on for JSA for 3 years from the ages 65 to 68.

What a scam..

NIMAN

I don't see how you can get debts written down/off when you are guaranteed an income of €78,000 per year?

Another strategic "retirement" then, followed by a triumphant comeback in some dubious enterprise. A blueshirt until you drop Ivan, when you head for the hills stay there. Thanks for the memories.

splinter65

dark crystal wrote: »

Retiring at 60? That must be nice.

Meanwhile the rest of us will be made work until we're 68+

SF are here now to make sure you’re retiring at 65.

dark crystal

splinter65 wrote: »

SF are here now to make sure you’re retiring at 65.

The cosy FFG cartel will make sure that'll never happen

suicide_circus

NIMAN wrote: »

I don't see how you can get debts written down/off when you are guaranteed an income of €78,000 per year?

dont understand that

NIMAN

suicide_circus wrote: »

dont understand that

My question?

Or are you agreeing with me?
Normally people who get debts written off have no means to ever pay.

Tired Gardener

Belen Savory Snot wrote: »

What a cretin. The Peter Casey of broadcasting. Rude for the sake of it, 'holier-than-thou' attitude with all guests unless they're similarly amoral, dismissing experts because his (very limited) experiences preclude him from understanding them. He's a self-confessed alcoholic but instead of doing anything about it, he touts it as normal and laughs at anyone who doesn't ply themselves with drink nightly to numb the pain of all the disappointment and loss he's obviously had to endure because of the crap attitude he has. I'd feel sorry for him because he's such a pity, but he's so hateful in the way he bullies and cajoles people that I can't drum up an iota of sympathy.

^this.

05eaftqbrs9jlh

Harry Palmr wrote: »

HE saw Donald Trump's America coming before anyone else in the media here was willing to give the notion the time of day. Pity that he was so right. His inside track on politics was his strong suit for sure. Some of his social views are probably what you'd expect of a middle aged Gorey man (and some of it was a put on to get reactions).

Are you kidding me, he wasn't fit to be in public. The televised debate was about 60% Ivan insulting people. It was somewhat put on, in a patronising "devil's advocate" way, and it's getting tamer as he knows he's not going to be in the public eye as much anymore so he doesn't need to lay it on, but anyone who makes a living off of gambling and then sh!t-stirring using people's most wrongfully-held prejudiced sentiments deserves no accolades.

BanditLuke wrote: »

And he has the neck to preach down to others.

Rikand wrote: »

I thought I was the only one who felt this way about him

I thought everyone felt this way about him until I saw the gurriers in this thread. It still doesn't mean that prevailing opinion isn't absolutely shocking. It's kind of incredible that some people actually must have sensationalist tabloid-style banners as their internal monologue.

suicide_circus

NIMAN wrote: »

My question?

Or are you agreeing with me?
Normally people who get debts written off have no means to ever pay.

i'm agreeing with you. how does someone with a pension income of nearly double the average industrial wage (on top of other incomes) get debts written off?

Esel

George gone, Ivan going. Hopefully Ciara will be next.

Allinall

Allinall wrote: »

Never known anyone to work as hard as Ivan.

Fair play to him for coming back from the brink and getting his sh1t back together.

Hope he enjoys his retirement.

Possible presidential material in a few years time.

He deserves the freedom of Enniscorthy for facilitating gambling addictions.

Not quite "presidential material", scrubbing public toilets is more his level.

Harry Palmr

Esel wrote: »

George gone, Ivan going. Hopefully Ciara will be next.

She has the advantage of being a woman, she'll be spouting guff for as long as likes.

dark crystal

Harry Palmr wrote: »

She has the advantage of being a woman, she'll be spouting guff for as long as likes.

What? Female presenters have a monopoly on spouting guff on Newstalk?

Sarah McInerney and the woman with the unpronouncable name were hardly given the luxury of spouting their 'guff' on the station for very long were they?

Give over with that sexist ****e.

05eaftqbrs9jlh

dark crystal wrote: »

What? Female presenters have a monopoly on spouting guff on Newstalk?

Sarah McInerney and the woman with the unpronouncable name were hardly given the luxury of spouting their 'guff' on the station for very long were they?

Give over with that sexist ****e.

I wouldn't even bother engaging with that. You'll only be exciting them. In the thread about Ivan Yates it was only a matter of time before they started to crawl out of the woodwork and stoke something about how women are held to a lower standard because gender quotas or some rubbish.

dark crystal

Belen Savory Snot wrote: »

I wouldn't even bother engaging with that. You'll only be exciting them. In the thread about Ivan Yates it was only a matter of time before they started to crawl out of the woodwork and stoke something about how women are held to a lower standard because gender quotas or some rubbish.

I certainly wouldn't be using Newstalk as a cornerstone for that argument!

babybuilder

Content and presenters all representative of the politics of the station's owner -an Irish version of W.R. Hearst.

maestroamado

I think "Bertie" may be available just to keep it democratic...

LMK

I won't miss him, one size fits all interview technique, not insightful, full of confidence that covers a multitude of sins whoever you are, he's at it long enough to be better.

yabadabado

dark crystal wrote: »

Retiring at 60? That must be nice.

Meanwhile the rest of us will be made work until we're 68+

Is someone forcing you to work until you are 68+ ?

dark crystal

yabadabado wrote: »

Is someone forcing you to work until you are 68+ ?

Eh, have you heard about the pension age rise at all, or are you just assuming I'm independently wealthy?

yabadabado

dark crystal wrote: »

Eh, have you heard about the pension age rise at all, or are you just assuming I'm independently wealthy?

You said you are being forced to work until 68,that's simply not true .You ,me or anyone can pack in work anytime we want.
You arent in some sort of forced labour camp.

How would I know what your financial circumstances are?

dark crystal

yabadabado wrote: »

You said you are being forced to work until 68,that's simply not true .You ,me or anyone can pack in work anytime we want.
You arent in some sort of forced labour camp.

How would I know what your financial circumstances are?

What's the alternative to working until 68, presuming I'm not independently wealthy and the bills/food/rent/mortgage/health insurance etc. still need to be paid? Go on the dole is it?

Is that what you're suggesting? I'm interested in hearing this.

yabadabado

dark crystal wrote: »

What's the alternative to working until 68, presuming I'm not independently wealthy and the bills/food/rent/mortgage/health insurance etc. still need to be paid? Go on the dole is it?

Is that what you're suggesting? I'm interested in hearing this.

The state pension is €248.30 pw, the dole is €203 .
So you are forcing yourself to work until 68 for an extra €45 euro.

With a proper pension plan there is absolutely no need to work till 68 or over and you certainly arent forced to do so.

Are you going to be paying your mortgage until the date you receive the pension or will it most likely be paid off a few years previously?


Will all your bills just disappear when you hit the magic retirement age of 68 ?

Pherekydes

I hope he enjoys the retirement. Spending all day with Deirdre. :pac:

It always amuses me (in a bitter way) that he was a government minister. He wallows luxuriously in his ignorance.

Plus, he bankrupted a chain of Turf Accountants, which is, let's face it, a licence to print money.